Release-critical Bugreport for April 25, 2003

2003-04-25 Thread BugScan reporter
Bug stamp-out list for Apr 25 06:08 (CST) Total number of release-critical bugs: 779 Number that will disappear after removing packages marked [REMOVE]: 19 Explanation for bug tags: P pending + patch H help M moreinfo R unreproducible S security U upstream Some bugs

Re: un probleme avec the developer information for ire?

2003-04-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 10:25:20PM +0200, Alexandre Pineau écrivait: Bonjour, Bonjour, Je ne comprends pas un problème associé au paquet Ire (http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ire.html) : Le bug Intent To Package #168210 concernant IRE est signalé comme faisant toujours partie de la

Re: viruses

2003-04-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do u know how to send them? I think you use the command deltree C:\, it may ask you some questions, but say yes to them all if you really want to send that virus out! -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux

Bug#190679: ITP: bioperl-run -- Perl wrappers for applications used by bioperl

2003-04-25 Thread Matt Hope
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Package name: bioperl-run Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : Various [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.bioperl.org/ License : Perl (Artistic/GPL) Description : Perl wrappers for applications used by bioperl Bioperl-run

Re: ifupdown writes to /etc... a bug?

2003-04-25 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Hood wrote: On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 18:56, Steve Langasek wrote: The FHS is about more than just providing a system that technically allows you to mount different filesystems as needed. There are also aesthetic concerns in the heirarchy (in the broad sense of

Re: x86-64 mailing list

2003-04-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 25 Apr 2003, Michael Banck wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 06:27:34PM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote: A bug on the lack of a debian-x86-64 mailing list has been opened (162668). All that can be done has been done -- it's out of our hands now :) It's the same for the internal projects

i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Matthias Klose
Should Debian further support the i386 target, or make (at least i486) the default for code generation? Asking because I'm unsure how to provide the libstdc++5 package. - In gcc-3.2, the libstdc++ atomicity implementation uses ix86 (=4) specific code. This was reported by two users (#184446,

Re: libpng breakages

2003-04-25 Thread Jérôme Marant
En réponse à Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As libpng12-dev provides libpng12-0-dev, and there are no versioned dependencies on it, there is no breakage. apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev doesn't work because it cannot install libpng12-0-dev despite what you are saying. -- Jérôme Marant

Re: [debian-devel] Status of mICQ code audit

2003-04-25 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-23 03:30]: If someone missed a meeting because a program they installed out of Debian had a time bomb in it, they would be justified in questioning their use of Debian, not just the application. No. They would be justified in questioning their

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] - In gcc-3.2, the libstdc++ atomicity implementation uses ix86 (=4) specific code. This was reported by two users (#184446, #185662). [...] - Keeping the generic implementation would not allow binaries linked against the libstdc++ built with the

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Andreas Metzler wrote: Does anybody know how/if other Distributions reacted to this issue? Suse, Redhat et.al. afaik have been using gcc-3.x for more than one release. They just don't support i386 anymore. http://www.suse.de/en/private/products/suse_linux/i386/system_requirements.html

Re: libpng breakages

2003-04-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le ven 25/04/2003 à 09:41, Jérôme Marant a écrit : En réponse à Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As libpng12-dev provides libpng12-0-dev, and there are no versioned dependencies on it, there is no breakage. apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev doesn't work because it cannot install

Re: libpng clarification

2003-04-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le ven 25/04/2003 à 04:46, Chris Cheney a écrit : On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 09:16:34PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: Wrong. It was Red Hat who *instigated* the change in library names upstream to allow the devel packages to be installed simultaneously, because they have no intention of trying

Re: Problems mixing debconf and ucf in a perl script

2003-04-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:26:46 -0700, Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm trying to implement ucf in a perl postinst script, but I'm running into problems due to debconf's fuckage with the file descriptors, I think. I call stop() as soon as I'm done interfacing with debconf, but that

Re: If Debian decides that the Gnu Free Doc License is not free...

2003-04-25 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 09:50:35PM +0400, Hans Reiser wrote: There is screensaver that displays random fortunes (executes fortune(6)). Create fortune's database consisting of credits information and you are done. [...] Would debian be willing to do this as the default screensaver? I think

Re: If Debian decides that the Gnu Free Doc License is not free...

2003-04-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Hans Reiser wrote: Would debian be willing to do this as the default screensaver? I think it would be great if it did. There is no such thing as a default screensaver except the console blanker. Regards, Joey -- Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct,

Re: If Debian decides that the Gnu Free Doc License is not free...

2003-04-25 Thread Nikita Danilov
Hans Reiser writes: Oleg Drokin wrote: Hello! On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 12:25:11PM +0400, Hans Reiser wrote: If someone wants to create a boot program and/or screensaver that picks a random OS component to describe the authors of at boot time, that would be nicest of

Re: libpng breakages

2003-04-25 Thread Jérôme Marant
En réponse à Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 10:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev Do you want to continue? [Y/n] ... What is the exact error message you get ? If I remember correcly: libqt3-mt-dev Depends: libpng12-0-dev but it is not going to be installed I

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On pe, 2003-04-25 at 11:09, Martin v. Löwis wrote: They just don't support i386 anymore. http://www.suse.de/en/private/products/suse_linux/i386/system_requirements.html http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/ You got to have a Pentium+ for these distributions. This is quite

Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

2003-04-25 Thread Andreas Barth
* Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030424 02:50]: On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Andreas Barth wrote: Can't you understand that as an author you would like that messages like this are not removed without your consent? The internet robustness principle says: Be liberal in what you accept and

Re: libpng breakages

2003-04-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le ven 25/04/2003 à 11:08, Jérôme Marant a écrit : libqt3-mt-dev Depends: libpng12-0-dev but it is not going to be installed I think that it depends on the packages that are installed on the system. So, I'm sure I must resolve the problem manualy since APT is not going to do it for me.

Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

2003-04-25 Thread Andreas Barth
* Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030424 05:20]: On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:41:58 +0200, Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You can. The _moral_ right is compatible with free software, the _formal_ right not. (And in some, rare cases the moral right is ignored. mkreiserfs could be a

Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

2003-04-25 Thread Andreas Barth
* David Nusinow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030424 11:20]: Your message works both ways, and it's obvious to me that upstream authors should give maintainers as much respect as maintainers give them. Some simple civility is really all that's called for. Perfectly true. But this list is called

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Lars Wirzenius wrote: So using a 386 as a router and firewall, which it is perfectly capable of hardwarewise Is that really the case? a) Is anybody actually doing this, today? b) Do you then have 10MB or 100MB ethernet in that computer? Can you even put a 100MB ethernet card into the computer?

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 20:09, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Lars Wirzenius wrote: So using a 386 as a router and firewall, which it is perfectly capable of hardwarewise Is that really the case? a) Is anybody actually doing this, today? b) Do you then have 10MB or 100MB ethernet in that computer?

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:13:08 +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: I could live with that, but I think it'd be a shame. Hmm. Did anybody measure the performance increase in a typical userspace-CPU-intensive program when built with i586-only options (as opposed to optimize for i586+ but generate

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Andreas U. Trottmann
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 12:09:21PM +0200, Martin v. Löwis wrote: So using a 386 as a router and firewall, which it is perfectly capable of hardwarewise Is that really the case? a) Is anybody actually doing this, today? In our company, we are using * Two 386sx 16 MHz with 8 MB RAM as

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 12:13:08PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On pe, 2003-04-25 at 11:09, Martin v. L?wis wrote: They just don't support i386 anymore. http://www.suse.de/en/private/products/suse_linux/i386/system_requirements.html http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 08:53:40PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: It does sound like it would be a good idea to have a separate build for 386 and 486, then we could optimise everything else for 586+. Hmm... I'd argue for putting the split at either 386 vs 486+ (the latter at least has a

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Stephen Frost
* Martin v. L?wis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Lars Wirzenius wrote: So using a 386 as a router and firewall, which it is perfectly capable of hardwarewise Is that really the case? Yes. a) Is anybody actually doing this, today? Yes. b) Do you then have 10MB or 100MB ethernet in that

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hmm. Did anybody measure the performance increase in a typical userspace-CPU-intensive program when built with i586-only options (as opposed to optimize for i586+ but generate compatible code)? In the current issue, it is not that much a question of performance, but of

Bug#190729: ITP: atop -- Monitor for system resources and process activity

2003-04-25 Thread Edelhard Becker
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-25 Severity: wishlist * Package name: atop Version : 1.9 Upstream Author : Gerlof Langeveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : ftp://ftp.ATComputing.nl/pub/tools/linux * License : GPL Description : Monitor for

libmysqlclient12 is GPL *not* LGPL

2003-04-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hello, I send this first here to doublecheck that I do not make a complete ass out of myself ;-) You might not have noticed but libmysqlclient12 from MySQL 4 is licensed GPL, i.e. you have got problems when linking against non-GPL software at the same time. The LGPLed libmysqlclient10 and

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
Martin v. Lwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Wirzenius wrote: So using a 386 as a router and firewall, which it is perfectly capable of hardwarewise [snip] b) Do you then have 10MB or 100MB ethernet in that computer? Can you even put a 100MB ethernet card into the computer? Does

Bug#190728: ITP: netrik -- text mode WWW browser with vi like keybindings

2003-04-25 Thread Edelhard Becker
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-25 Severity: wishlist * Package name: netrik Version : 1.8.0 Upstream Author : Olaf D. Buddenhagen AKA antrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://netrik.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : text

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 08:51:41AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Should Debian further support the i386 target, or make (at least i486) the default for code generation? Asking because I'm unsure how to provide the libstdc++5 package. FWIW, hurd-i386 doesn't now, nor will it likely ever run on

Re: libpng breakages

2003-04-25 Thread JC Wong
Le ven 25/04/2003 \340 09:41, J\351r\364me Marant a \351crit : En r\351ponse \340 Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As libpng12-dev provides libpng12-0-dev, and there are no versioned dependencies on it, there is no breakage. apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev doesn't work because it cannot

Re: Some questions about dependencies

2003-04-25 Thread Björn Stenberg
Simon Huggins wrote: I have a feeling you want to discover update_output.txt Thanks, I have looked at it before but apparently not enough. Some followup questions: update_output.txt says: trying: cfitsio skipped: cfitsio (1144+9) got: 13+0: a-4:a-9 * arm: fv, libcfitsio-dev,

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Nick Phillips
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 01:37:04PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: I say this because the original pentium didn't introduce a lot of new features other than the two pipelines for which you only need some insn scheduling that's fully compatible with the 486, and IIRC wasn't sold nearly as well

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 09:32:05AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: Does anybody know how/if other Distributions reacted to this issue? Suse, Redhat et.al. afaik have been using gcc-3.x for more than one release. Minimum: Pentium-class http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/ I can't

Re: Some questions about dependencies

2003-04-25 Thread Björn Stenberg
Rene Engelhard wrote: 4) What is the best way to find out why cfitsio depends on gcc-3.3? looking in the Packages files? (do in on auric directly or d/l them and do it at home) Where can I download these files? (Packages is a tricky word to search for...) Thanks. -- Björn

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 07:30:34AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: I bet someone would rebuild base+some extras using i386 target compiler and make it available, if Debian did that. They would probably serve a few hundred users total, at best. I don't think it would be too much to expect

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 01:37:04PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: Hmm... I'd argue for putting the split at either 386 vs 486+ (the latter at least has a math copro and CMPXCHG), or at 386-pentium vs 686+. See the beginning of this thread; the problem is that libstdc++ has drawn a line between

Bug#174308: marked as done (star should become standard tar)

2003-04-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:13:25 +0200 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Bug#174308: star should become standard tar has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Craig Dickson
Ben Collins wrote: I bet someone would rebuild base+some extras using i386 target compiler and make it available, if Debian did that. They would probably serve a few hundred users total, at best. I don't think it would be too much to expect debian-i386 to become a side-project. debian-i386

Re: Non-debian running DD's (Was: Re: stop abusing debconf already)

2003-04-25 Thread Steve Greenland
On 24-Apr-03, 13:31 (CDT), Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when did windows become the native OS on x86? Just to be difficult: The original OS for the IBM PC was DOS[1], and if you track the lineage, I think it's fair to call Windows the native OS for that architecture. And when did

Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron)

2003-04-25 Thread Junichi Uekawa
This won't work, because you can't mix 32 and 64 bits code or libraries. I think the appropriate solution is to make it a completely new arch, with 32 bits compatibility libraries (at least glibc and xlibs) allowing to run 32 bits proprietary software. I find that this might be better,

Re: libpng3 upgrade will remove kde development packages

2003-04-25 Thread Junichi Uekawa
On the other hand, it will break any package that has a versioned dependency on libpng12-0-dev (I don't know if there are any). It looks like there are no such packages. That is nice to hear, then we are clear on that subject, apart from occasional weird apt-pinning behavior :)

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 08:51:41AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Should Debian further support the i386 target, or make (at least i486) the default for code generation? Asking because I'm unsure how to provide the libstdc++5 package. Realistically, are there any C++ apps on the planet that

Re: Some questions about dependencies

2003-04-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 02:43:31PM +0200, Bj?rn Stenberg wrote: Simon Huggins wrote: I have a feeling you want to discover update_output.txt update_output.txt says: trying: cfitsio skipped: cfitsio (1144+9) got: 13+0: a-4:a-9 * arm: fv, libcfitsio-dev, libcfitsio2 If I'm reading

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Arnd Bergmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 25 April 2003 15:43, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 01:37:04PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: Hmm... I'd argue for putting the split at either 386 vs 486+ (the latter at least has a math copro and CMPXCHG), or at

Re: libpng breakages

2003-04-25 Thread Jérôme Marant
En réponse à Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le ven 25/04/2003 à 11:08, Jérôme Marant a écrit : libqt3-mt-dev Depends: libpng12-0-dev but it is not going to be installed I think that it depends on the packages that are installed on the system. So, I'm sure I must resolve the

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 09:26:41AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 08:51:41AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Should Debian further support the i386 target, or make (at least i486) the default for code generation? Asking because I'm unsure how to provide the libstdc++5

Re: Problems mixing debconf and ucf in a perl script

2003-04-25 Thread Brian Nelson
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:26:46 -0700, Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm trying to implement ucf in a perl postinst script, but I'm running into problems due to debconf's fuckage with the file descriptors, I think. I call stop() as soon as

Re: Non-debian running DD's (Was: Re: stop abusing debconf already)

2003-04-25 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 09:08:03AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: On 24-Apr-03, 13:31 (CDT), Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when did windows become the native OS on x86? Just to be difficult: The original OS for the IBM PC was DOS[1], and if you track the lineage, I think it's

Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron)

2003-04-25 Thread Arnd Bergmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 25 April 2003 16:32, Junichi Uekawa wrote: I find that this might be better, than using /lib64, for 64-bit mode libraries, because we need to modify almost everything that uses dlopen, right ? I am assuming that dlopen calls need to be

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 09:26:41AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 08:51:41AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Should Debian further support the i386 target, or make (at least i486) the default for code generation? Asking because I'm unsure how to provide the

PostgreSQL lexer changes needed [Re: Bug#190329: postgresql depends on flex]

2003-04-25 Thread Oliver Elphick
Are there any flex experts who can take a look at this problem? On Thu, 2003-04-24 at 17:41, Drew Scott Daniels wrote: The changelog for postgresql 7.3.2r1-3 says: [...] * Patch to allow configure to accept flex = 2.5.30 (it was falling foul of the test for buggy 2.5.3). [...] Does

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 04:36:00PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 09:26:41AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 08:51:41AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Should Debian further support the i386 target, or make (at least i486) the default for code

An doubt

2003-04-25 Thread Luiz Rafael Culik Guimaraes
Dear Friends Is their any kind of references for users that has .spec files for Rpm that need to build their package in debian I´ve tryed to build an .deb package as pointer on the web page, but i dont get no luck. My apps depend for some envars that are defined on make files, this envars must

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Alan Shutko
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Realistically, are there any C++ apps on the planet that wouldn't choke an i386 to death anyway? groff -- Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I am the rocks. Looking for a developer in St. Louis? http://web.springies.com/~ats/ I do not fear computers. I

Re: [debian-devel] Status of mICQ code audit

2003-04-25 Thread Travis Crump
Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-23 03:30]: If someone missed a meeting because a program they installed out of Debian had a time bomb in it, they would be justified in questioning their use of Debian, not just the application. No. They would be justified in

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Friday 25 April 2003 08:06 am, Arnd Bergmann wrote: On Friday 25 April 2003 15:43, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 01:37:04PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: Hmm... I'd argue for putting the split at either 386 vs 486+ (the latter at least has a math copro and CMPXCHG), or

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 05:06:00PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: On Friday 25 April 2003 15:43, Matt Zimmerman wrote: See the beginning of this thread; the problem is that libstdc++ has drawn a line between 386 and 486. No, the only thing that is enforced is that i386 systems cannot use the

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le ven 25/04/2003 à 16:06, Craig Dickson a écrit : The slowest machine I ever work with these days is an old Pentium-90 with 32 MB RAM. I won't even put X on that anymore, though it did have X back when it was my only Linux machine. But 486's and Pentiums still make very good TX boxen, so

Packagebrowser big update

2003-04-25 Thread Erich Schubert
Hello, I just updated my packagebrowser to a completely rewritten version. http://debian.vitavonni.de/packagebrowser/ I converted the groups data from aptitude to a keyword-oriented system; this system is much more flexible. Unfortunately the UI is quite slow (especially at the top level, i

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2003-04-25 Thread domainmaster
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Re: libpng breakages

2003-04-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le ven 25/04/2003 à 14:38, JC Wong a écrit : But is that possible to get libpng2-dev and libpng12-0-dev both installed? Since libqt3-mt-dev depend on libpng12-0-dev and its needed for my Licq.While other of my gnome appz depend on gdk-imlib need libpng2-dev as well.Is confusing me here.

Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron)

2003-04-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le ven 25/04/2003 à 17:54, Arnd Bergmann a écrit : I am assuming that dlopen calls need to be modified to look for /usr/lib64 rather than /usr/lib on 64-bit architectures running 64-bit applications. This matter has been decided years ago by other people. /lib64 is in the ELF psABI, see

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 11:55:08AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 04:36:00PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 09:26:41AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: Realistically, are there any C++ apps on the planet that wouldn't choke an i386 to death anyway?

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Brian Nelson
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 08:51:41AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Should Debian further support the i386 target, or make (at least i486) the default for code generation? Asking because I'm unsure how to provide the libstdc++5 package. Realistically,

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 05:06:00PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: (i.e. you won't buy any _new_ i486 machines in order to run Debian). Though, buying a new i486 isn't as unusual as you might think. http://www.soekris.com/net4501.htm http://www.soekris.com/net4511.htm

Re: [debian-devel] Status of mICQ code audit

2003-04-25 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 09:24:14AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-23 03:30]: If someone missed a meeting because a program they installed out of Debian had a time bomb in it, they would be justified in questioning their use of Debian, not just the

Re: An doubt

2003-04-25 Thread Joey Hess
(Please do not reply to existing messages to start a new thread.) Luiz Rafael Culik Guimaraes wrote: Dear Friends Is their any kind of references for users that has .spec files for Rpm that need to build their package in debian I´ve tryed to build an .deb package as pointer on the web

Re: libpng breakages

2003-04-25 Thread Jrme Marant
Jérôme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: En réponse à Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le ven 25/04/2003 à 11:08, Jérôme Marant a écrit : libqt3-mt-dev Depends: libpng12-0-dev but it is not going to be installed I think that it depends on the packages that are installed on the

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 25, Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet someone would rebuild base+some extras using i386 target compiler and make it available, if Debian did that. They would probably serve a few hundred users total, at best. I don't think it would be too much to expect debian-i386 to become a

Samsung ML-1210 + Gimp-print

2003-04-25 Thread Martin Wheeler
[please cc any reply offlist, as not subscribed] Has anyone solved the problem of getting a Samsung ML-1210 to print (over USB cable connection) using CUPS and Gimp-print? (Foomatic, actually.) Am using Debian sarge, kernel 2.4.19-686, CUPS 1.1.15-4, and Foomatic 4.2.2-pre2. I have no printing

Re: perl and libtk-img

2003-04-25 Thread David N. Welton
Michel Loos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Em Qui, 2003-03-27 às 19:38, David N. Welton escreveu: [ Please CC me in replies ] Hi, I have emailed the guy who submitted this bug, with no answer. Any Perl people want to have a look at it and see if the problem behavior is still there?

pilot-link in Sid and Sarge: Much bigger question

2003-04-25 Thread David Krider
So I'm trying out Debian on the desktop. I'm a long-time Red Hat user who's given up on them because of their product strategy. I bought SuSE 8.2, and it's been great. I'm saying these things not to start a flamewar, but just to tell where I'm coming from. I'm just saying that I expect a lot of

Re: Some questions about dependencies

2003-04-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 03:11:41PM +0200, Björn Stenberg wrote: Rene Engelhard wrote: 4) What is the best way to find out why cfitsio depends on gcc-3.3? looking in the Packages files? (do in on auric directly or d/l them and do it at home) Where can I download these files? (Packages is

Re: bad postinst in kernel-images

2003-04-25 Thread Marcel Kolaja
On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 01:06:08AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Also, once the system reboots, depmod is ran too; at that time, it provokes no errors, and the system works perfectly afterwards -- yes, I tried :-) Yes, this is true, but if you use initrd (which I use) and the modules.dep is

Re: pilot-link in Sid and Sarge: Much bigger question

2003-04-25 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 03:27:57PM -0500, David Krider wrote: Please don't tell me, We'll blah, blah release blah when blah it's blah, blah, blah ready. What do you expect people to say? This is the development model. If you think things are going too slow, help out and start squashing bugs.

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20030425T180852+0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: The problem is STL ... or rather, its abuse. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% Taiteellisen ohjelmoinnin ystävien seura Toys - Ohjelmointi on myös taidetta

Re: If Debian decides that the Gnu Free Doc License is not free...

2003-04-25 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
As far as I am concerned, I have no desire to have ReiserFS distributed for free by anyone who removes the GNU manifesto or similar expressions from Stallman's work (or my own) and redistributes it. It is simply a matter of respect that is due the author. Respect is due; but it is up to

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, 25 Apr 2003, [ISO-8859-1] Martin v. Löwis wrote: a) Is anybody actually doing this, today? Hell yes. I have 3 of them in the field. Running woody+updates, custom kernel, and absolutely nothing else. b) Do you then have 10MB or 100MB ethernet in that computer? Can you even put a

AMD64 vs x86-64 architecture name

2003-04-25 Thread Bart Trojanowski
Here is an email from an AMD rep posted on the x86-64 developer mailing list. B. --- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:56:56 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [discuss] From AMD -- RE: [discuss] x86_64 - amd64 renaming? All, You're correct, AMD is trying to minimize use of

Re: pilot-link in Sid and Sarge: Much bigger question

2003-04-25 Thread Chris Cheney
Debian sid is roughly equal to most other distributions official releases. One of the main reasons that Debian stable and testing are always behind other distributions is due to the fact Debian requires much more out of the packages, by requiring them to work on all architectures and without major

Re: pilot-link in Sid and Sarge: Much bigger question

2003-04-25 Thread Chris Cheney
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 03:27:57PM -0500, David Krider wrote: I know, I know. I've heard lots of people talk about how great it is, but, as far as I know, the bitmapped fonts under KDE in Sid are still messed up, and that's a show stopper for me. Hopefully this will be resolved eventually or

Re: libmysqlclient12 is GPL *not* LGPL

2003-04-25 Thread Adam Majer
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 02:01:58PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: Hello, I send this first here to doublecheck that I do not make a complete ass out of myself ;-) You might not have noticed but libmysqlclient12 from MySQL 4 is licensed GPL, i.e. you have got problems when linking against

Bug#190796: ITP: qvocab -- A program to train your vocabulary

2003-04-25 Thread Yven Johannes Leist
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-26 Severity: wishlist * Package name: qvocab Version : 0.22.4 Upstream Authors: Joachim Wieland [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL :

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Nick Phillips
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:20:33AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: Another question, of course, is what does supporting 386s lose us? I've Binary compatibility with other distributions usability of 3rd-party C++ binaries. That was what started this thread, remember? -- Nick Phillips -- [EMAIL

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Chris Cheney
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 05:06:00PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: If we really want to split i386 in 'compatible' and 'fast', the i686 border makes sense because users who care about speed probably bought the machine during the last two years and those should be i686 compatible. i686 has been

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, 26 Apr 2003, Nick Phillips wrote: On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:20:33AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: Another question, of course, is what does supporting 386s lose us? I've Binary compatibility with other distributions usability of 3rd-party C++ binaries. That was what started

OpenEXR packages

2003-04-25 Thread Drew Hess
Hi, I'm the upstream maintainer of OpenEXR. Is there anything I can do to help expedite getting OpenEXR into Debian? Not much has happened since the original ITP as far as I can tell. If something's broken on our side, let me know and I'll fix it. thanks -dwh-

Re: libpng breakages

2003-04-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le ven 25/04/2003 à 20:39, Jérôme Marant a écrit : Explicitly asking apt-get install libpng12-dev should do the trick (or at least show more explicitly what is wrong). Do you have any packages on hold maybe ? I don't have anything on hold, but I'll try that. Stay tuned. It worked. I

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 08:15:05PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote: | On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 05:06:00PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: | If we really want to split i386 in 'compatible' and 'fast', the i686 border | makes sense because users who care about speed probably bought the machine | during the

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le sam 26/04/2003 à 02:59, Matthew Palmer a écrit : For the original problem, it surely should be possible to build 386 and 486+ versions of libstdc++ and include both in the distro, with linker magic (or installer magic) to tell the difference? That would not be enough. We need specific

Re: libpng clarification

2003-04-25 Thread Chris Cheney
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 10:15:25AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le ven 25/04/2003 à 04:46, Chris Cheney a écrit : On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 09:16:34PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: Wrong. It was Red Hat who *instigated* the change in library names upstream to allow the devel packages to

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 10:59:19AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: For the original problem, it surely should be possible to build 386 and 486+ versions of libstdc++ and include both in the distro, with linker magic (or installer magic) to tell the difference? We've got /usr/lib/i386 and

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le sam 26/04/2003 à 03:15, Chris Cheney a écrit : i686 has been common for 6 years now (1997 P2/K6), so its hardly just in the past two years. ;) Err, k6 is not a 686 as to my knowledge. I agree the split should be at the i686 border assuming this doesn't harm athlon systems. This would be

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