On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:49:40PM +, Brian May wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 04:01:19PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> > > That is the idea behind autorespoonders after all, to tell the sender
> > > that his mail didn't get through because it didn't meet some required
> > > criteria.
> >
>
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 04:01:19PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> Backup MX servers serve no useful purpose in the modern Internet, this is why
> big sites such as microsoft.com and hotmail.com don't have them.
agreed.
> If you have a backup MX then it should know all the acceptable email
> addre
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 10:42:17AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 03:48:13PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > the point that you keep on missing is that TMDA and similar programs send
> > "confirmation" emails to innocent third-parties who did *NOT* send an
> > email.
> >
> > TMD
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Well the credit should definitely be directed at the submitter. The
>> blame however is squarely at the feet of the maintainer.
>
> This is not at all the case. A large percentage of patches that I apply to
> my packages are done more or less blindl
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 08:45:37PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Apart from item (2), which I can't think of a major example of at present
> > (OOo is in main because they just don't build the Java parts, AIUI),
>
> Still in contrib, last I knew.
Whoops, it is too. I thought I'd left contrib
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:47:46AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> To address the original point, however:
> I do believe that policy is correct in it's reasoning in this instance. By
> my understanding, packages go into contrib for one of three reasons:
> 1) They strictly depend on non-free sof
Andrew writes:
> The (granted, commercial) SMTP virus scanners that I've had experience
> with don't allow you to modify the notification behavior on a per virus
> signature basis, it's either all on or all off.
The signature file sent out by the vendor should tell the scanner whether
or not to se
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 01:45:18PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote:
>
> I think virus scanners are in a different class, though. Mailing list
> software isn't designed to recognize viruses, while virus scanners are.
> It's disgustingly incompetent to recognize a mail as Sobig.F, which is
> known to
Hi！
Thank for your repeat. I have a question this time :
I went to build the Debian Linux OS on sh4 target board and add IPv6 on
this OS. I knew that the Debian Linux has done some change aginst the stand
kernel, where can I find the source of Debian Linux kernel 2.4.18 for sh4?
on Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 09:41:39PM -0500, John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I wrote:
> > This is about a quarter of my incoming mail.
>
> Karsten writes:
> > Which? Bounces to spoofed senders, or improperly addressed mail?
>
> Bounces.
Thanks.
> > What prevents you from 550ing this at S
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:47:11PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> <...>
> > But now we're discussing about it and I express my opinion: since these
> > packages in their postinst script install non-free stuff, I think that
> > even if there's no non-free stuff
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Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> And people allways say that 64 Bit archs need much bigger executables.
But the numbers quoted are for compressed executables.
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On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:49:40PM +, Brian May wrote:
> 2. All checks have to be automatic, and there is no chance of manual
> review to ensure that the messages where geniune before bouncing it.
Actually, I'm pretty sure SA is statistically better than an average
person scanning subject line
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:56:19PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote:
> > [alpha]7283
> > [i386] 7889
>
> I'd not include non-free in the batch because many non-free on i386 are
> i386 only, i.e. binary driver installers.
Ah, well spotted, but still there's some significant difference:
[EM
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 09:05:24PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> Funny that the count difference is so large... let me double check:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dists$ zcat
> testing{,-proposed-updates}/{main,contrib,non-free}/binary-alpha/Packages.gz
> | grep-dctrl -s Package -F Architecture -
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:33:22PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > Last October, I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian
> > developers, sponsored by HP. I've recently received numerous queries
> > about whether
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:27:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> And people allways say that 64 Bit archs need much bigger executables.
>
> Somehow alpha saves 328MB compared to i386 and a suggested 30-50% size
> increase on binaries would mean a lot of packages are not available on
>
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Mathieu Roy wrote:
<...>
> But now we're discussing about it and I express my opinion: since these
> packages in their postinst script install non-free stuff, I think that
> even if there's no non-free stuff within the packages themselves, the
> result of the installation of th
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:27:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> "Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:18:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> >
> > > Pray to god that testing and unstable stop diverging so much? :)
> >
> > FYI, this is the size
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Hi,
Today, ruby-defaults and ruby1.6 packages move queue/new to queue/accepted,
so ruby-defaults and ruby1.6 will go into unstable.
I'll change the default version of ruby in unstable to 1.8 next week,
because Sept 15th is the day of "Last major changes to major packages uploaded
to unstable", ac
Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello.
>
> Last October, I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian
> developers, sponsored by HP. I've recently received numerous queries
> about whether this "deal" was still available, and/or whether HP intended
> to continue sponsoring
"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:18:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
>
> > Pray to god that testing and unstable stop diverging so much? :)
>
> FYI, this is the size of all the binaries belonging to the given
> architecture, in the specifies suites:
Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> Em Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:48:46 +0200, Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> escreveu:
>
> > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 02:23:40PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> > [...]
> > > So I do not agree that "Contrib is a ok place for installers". While
> > >
Due to an insufficiently tested change, the copies normally sent to
package maintainers of [EMAIL PROTECTED] acknowledgements went
missing for a while. Sorry! The bug has now been fixed, but you may like
to have a look at your maintainer bug index using the web interface to
make sure that you haven
Em Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:48:46 +0200, Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 02:23:40PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> [...]
> > So I do not agree that "Contrib is a ok place for installers". While
> > basically these installer are free software, it's a little bit
> > hy
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 02:24:02PM +0200, Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote:
> Tried to get this info through a couple of times now, but no joy :(
> Posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but no answer :(
This has been dealt with now. Sorry for the delay.
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[Bastian Blank]
> i think the scripts should follow the update-X naming schema.
I agree. That would make it consistent of most of the Debian packages
providing such hooks.
Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In other words you do not agree with the Debian policy. It's quite
> amazing since according to :
>
> http://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=yeupou%40gnu.org
>
> You passed the Philosophy and Procedure.
There are many developers not agreing completly
Hi all,
I'll be on holliday until september 9.
I'll unsubscribe this list and re-subscribe when I'll be back.
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[Daniel Ruoso]
> I've actually sent him an email but got no answer. I've posted in
> debian-devel few days ago and nobody complained that GDM could source
> /etc/environment in the init script. That's an one-line patch (already
> tagged as patch in bts for more than a year)...
Remember that the f
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 02:23:40PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
[...]
> So I do not agree that "Contrib is a ok place for installers". While
> basically these installer are free software, it's a little bit
> hypocritical to claim that these package contains free software.
From the policy :
Examples
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Please CC, as I don't subscribe to this list.
Tried to get this info through a couple of times now, but no joy :(
Posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but no answer :(
Chopped some parts. Left the essencial, I hope. And yes, I know the latest
apt-listbugs version provides an alternative way (a server in
Tore Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've noticed there's quite a few almost-empty packages lurking in
> the archive, whose sole purpose seems to be to download non-free
> software and install it on a users' systems.
[...]
>realplayer net
Iirc realplayer has been re
Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> Hi
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 01:13:17PM +0200, Tore Anderson wrote:
> >
> > I've noticed there's quite a few almost-empty packages lurking in
> > the archive, whose sole purpose seems to be to download non-free
> > software and install it on a
* Ola Lundqvist
> Contrib is a perfectly ok place for installers.
I disagree. If I have contrib in my sources.list file, and try
to install a package from there, I expect only Free software to
be installed on my system. That means I should get either:
1) A fully-functional package, wh
Daniel Ruoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But this doesn't solve the problem that the login screen appears
> without locales... I already have pam_env.so in /etc/pam.d/gdm, but
> this only take effect (maybe I'm wrong) after the user logs in. The
> greeter will still appear without locales. (and
Hi
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 01:13:17PM +0200, Tore Anderson wrote:
>
> I've noticed there's quite a few almost-empty packages lurking in
> the archive, whose sole purpose seems to be to download non-free
> software and install it on a users' systems.
>
> I don't like the fact that these see
I've noticed there's quite a few almost-empty packages lurking in
the archive, whose sole purpose seems to be to download non-free
software and install it on a users' systems.
I don't like the fact that these seem to be (randomly) scattered
over main and contrib. Although the installer pa
Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "The bug has been fixed" is everything I would need to know. I don't
>> > really care if it was a typo, a new library, a rebuild or some magic
>> > incantation with black dribbling candles, the bug has been fixed.
>
> On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 17:46, Mathie
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-31 10:24]:
> > . Updated deprecation information on getipnodebyname(3) (closes
> > Bug#183112, Bug#176709, Bug#157746, Bug#152780)
>
> You're missing a colon after "closes".
Eeeks. fixed.
Regards,
Joey
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* Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-31 10:24]:
> . Updated deprecation information on getipnodebyname(3) (closes
> Bug#183112, Bug#176709, Bug#157746, Bug#152780)
You're missing a colon after "closes".
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Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:18:26AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
>
> > also sprach Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.31.0013 +0200]:
> > > If you want two different versions of documentation, they need to
> > > be named differently. Alternatively, you can just sp
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > > If I report "segmentation fault in ls", I--as a user of ls, not a
> > > developer--couldn't care less about why it was segfaulting or how the
> > > bug was fixed; I only care that it's been fixed. If a developer wants
> > > to spend their limited time researching how th
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 02:27:16PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Listing random upstream changes in debian/changelog just because they
> happen to fix bugs in the Debian BTS makes no sense.
It makes sense to me, and I do it whenever possible. It is valuable to
include in the Debian changelog inform
* Brian May ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030831 01:35]:
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 10:30:31AM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a
> wrote:
> > All of these, IIRC, provide means to run user-defined scripts for
> > autoconfiguration. Setting up the proxy server might be just a manner of
> > setting up the
* Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030831 00:05]:
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:40:34AM +1000, jason andrade wrote:
> > Is there any way to reduce the size of the archive over the next
> > 4-6 weeks ?
> Drop potato?
Or - allowing to act locally - put potato on an nfs-mounted volume
(assuming t
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