Re: gltron maintainer MIA

2003-10-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Ari Pollak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-12 17:14]: > It seems that the Debian gltron maintainer, Gregory J. Oschwald, has > been MIA for at least a year now. I can't find him anywhere in the > developers DB, and haven't seen any recent mail activity at all on > either bugs or mailing lists. I'd l

Re: Bug#215103: ITP: gmasqdialer -- gtk/gnome client for masqdialer server

2003-10-12 Thread Joe Drew
David B Harris wrote: As much as you may dislike it, people care about toolkit. I don't understand the witch-hunt to remove references to such things. Short description is a limited resource. By all means, put GTK or GNOME in the long description if it is deemed necessary; apt searches will still

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Re: Packaging sysfsutils: static library?

2003-10-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
Talking about udev, I have a preliminary package here: http://www.bofh.it/~md/debian/ . BTW, I may have been missing something as I did not read the beginning of this thread, but I don't see the point of packaging sysfsutils: as it's part of the udev source package (which I ITP'ed some weeks ago)

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Riku Voipio
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 11:41:45PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Julian Mehnle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bernhard R. Link wrote: > >> * Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031012 20:25]: > >> > Second hint: If you insist on your right to forge your email address, > >> > anyone else can forge yo

Re: Bug#215205: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 02:32:39PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 01:56:46PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > And if I'm a german living in america? > Then you'd go to the normal alphabetical listing just > as you would have to now

RE: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Julian Mehnle
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Riku Voipio > > Second hint: If you insist on your right to forge your email address, > > anyone else can forge your address as well. Is that a right you really > > need? > > Uhm, how would you forge your own mail address? It's like forging > your own signature, somethi

RE: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Julian Mehnle
Andreas Metzler wrote: > Julian Mehnle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's about forging an e-mail sender's identity. By preventing the > > unauthorized use of domains as the sender domain of e-mails, most of > > the practiced cases of identity forgery are prevented. [...] > > If I send an e-mail

Re: testing packages at build

2003-10-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 12:01:57PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > Well, if we came upon the problem independently we might have fixed > it. But I don't know if we did, because I have no idea what the > problem is. I have a vague memory of some problems with line > numbering under -traditional, but

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Riku Voipio I have mail-followup-set for a reason. In addition, it is normal policy on Debian lists not to Cc people unless explicitly requested. | > I think it's a silly proposal, since it will hinder people like me who | > are sending all their mail from a laptop to send their mail properly

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
Julian Mehnle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Bernhard, please excuse the accidental CC!) > Bernhard R. Link wrote: >> * Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031012 20:25]: >> > Second hint: If you insist on your right to forge your email address, >> > anyone else can forge your address as well. Is that

gltron maintainer MIA

2003-10-12 Thread Ari Pollak
[ Please CC me on replies ] It seems that the Debian gltron maintainer, Gregory J. Oschwald, has been MIA for at least a year now. I can't find him anywhere in the developers DB, and haven't seen any recent mail activity at all on either bugs or mailing lists. I'd like to hijack this package if I

RE: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Julian Mehnle
(Andreas, please excuse the accidental CC!) Andreas Metzler wrote: > Julian Mehnle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Convince the owner of these domains that you are (that is, your > > outgoing mail server is) allowed to send mail "from these domains". > > Think "these domains" = debian.org and "out

RE: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Julian Mehnle
(Bernhard, please excuse the accidental CC!) Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031012 20:25]: > > Second hint: If you insist on your right to forge your email address, > > anyone else can forge your address as well. Is that a right you really > > need? > > It's about to

Re: Gcc 3.3 help needed

2003-10-12 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 21:53:10 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > The critical line is: > > FILE *yyin = {stdin}, *yyout = {stdout}; Replace that with FILE *yyin, *yyout; ... in main() ... yyin = stdin; yyout = stdout; > wnlex.c:75: error: initializer element is not cons

Gcc 3.3 help needed

2003-10-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I seem to have a transition problem in a package of mine: The critical line is: FILE *yyin = {stdin}, *yyout = {stdout}; In the first line of the file in question #include is included. The error is. gcc -I/usr/include -O -DUNIX -c -o wnlex.o wnlex.c wnlex.c:75: error: initia

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031012 20:25]: > Second hint: If you insist on your right to forge your email address, > anyone else can forge your address as well. Is that a right you really > need? It's about to *use* an e-mail address, not about forging one... > Third hint: You can still c

Re: testing packages at build

2003-10-12 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:59:25 -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:38:17PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > > > > > My god, that was awful. They still haven't fixed cpp -traditional, as > > > far as I know. Grumble grumble grumble. > > > > Bug number? > > Mumble mumble mumbl

Bug#215431: ITP: openoffice.org-help-cs -- OpenOffice.org office suite help (Czech)

2003-10-12 Thread David Pravec
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: openoffice.org-help-cs Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Pavel Janik et al. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://cs.openoffice.org/ * License : LGPL Description : OpenOffice.org office suite help (Czech) OpenO

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Riku Voipio
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:03:45PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Joel Baker > | Last I checked, this was (unfortunately) not yet an RFC, but only a draft > | proposal. It happens to be one I really like the idea of, but I am aware > | of more or less 'nobody' implementing it, nor any significa

APT: Errors when replacing syslog by syslog-ng

2003-10-12 Thread Frans Pop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just got the following messages replacing syslog by syslog-ng from dselect (Woody). Should this be reported as a bug? Against which package (syslog, syslog-ng, apt)? The problems are: - - messages regarding klogd and anacron are incorrect as syslo

Re: Help needed: builds eating all memory

2003-10-12 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003, Adam Majer wrote: > >What can I do? Ask the buildd admins to add more swap? I would be > > happy to cross-compile the packages (they don't require any arch-specific > > bootstrapping) but I don't have enough hard drive space to build a cross- > > compiler. > > Whatabout r

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >> And it does not help in the first szenario at all >> (unless you think it to be ok that user a receives the bounces for >> user b). Just for a reminder: Two people using different domains with a changing smarthost on one computer. > If yo

Re: Bug#215205: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-12 Thread Dale Amon
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 01:56:46PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And if I'm a german living in america? Then you'd go to the normal alphabetical listing just as you would have to now, while 99% of the users in that TZ had the right language as one of

Re: Packaging sysfsutils: static library?

2003-10-12 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi! Am 2003-10-12 14:05 +0200 schrieb Eduard Bloch: > > > _That_ should not happen. > [...] > Choosing custom SONAMEs which mach clash with upstream's in the future. That's why I asked. > Either ship the static library only or provide SONAMEs that are > unique in Debian. That sounds reasonable.

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You know, there is a difference between Envelope-From (SMTP MAIL FROM:) >> and whatever you put in the From: header. They don't have to be the same. >[...] > >I do know

Re: Bug#215205: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Dale Amon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:18:46PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a > wrote: > > > I would suggest adopting a policy for the language order. Of course, > > > determining the "most important" languages is a very delicate thing as > > > everyone would li

Re: Packaging sysfsutils: static library?

2003-10-12 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Andreas Metzler [Sun, Oct 12 2003, 01:26:31PM]: > >> necessary) and will probably end up with a debian soname of > >> libsysfs.so.10 when upstream releases *their* first shared version > >> with soname libsysfs.so.0. > > > _That_ should not happen. See Lib Packaging Guide, > > http:

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> SMTP AUTH is no magic solution, you'd have to start routing mail by >> sender instead of recipient. >> Take myself, sharing a computer at home with somebody else who

Re: Packaging sysfsutils: static library?

2003-10-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > #include > * Andreas Metzler [Sun, Oct 12 2003, 10:19:40AM]: >> If upstream only ships a static library the Debian maintaner will have >> to take care of versioning the library (pushing the soname when >> necessary) and will probably end up with a debian

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
Julian Mehnle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: [...] >> How would you set up so that my laptop (or yours or whoever's) can >> send mail from about ten different domains if the server you are >> sending to is using SPF and the domain you are sending from have it >> implemented in

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >SMTP AUTH is no magic solution, you'd have to start routing mail by >sender instead of recipient. > >Take myself, sharing a computer at home with somebody else who uses a >completely different domain for her e-mail. Curren

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Re: CAP_FOWNER

2003-10-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 12:32:46PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > may package scripts assume, that they have the fowner capability > available? many postinst scripts first set the owner of a file/dir and > try to change the permissions after. this is only allowed with this > capability set. If you'

Bug#215353: ITP: bincimap-run -- IMAP server for Maildir depositories

2003-10-12 Thread Gerrit Pape
As an alternative to existing similar IMAP servers, Binc IMAP strives to be very easy to use, but robust, stable and secure. It aims at being absolutely compliant with the IMAP4rev1 protocol, and simple and modular in design, making it very easy for third parties to utilize the source code and

Re: Packaging sysfsutils: static library?

2003-10-12 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Andreas Metzler [Sun, Oct 12 2003, 10:19:40AM]: > If upstream only ships a static library the Debian maintaner will have > to take care of versioning the library (pushing the soname when > necessary) and will probably end up with a debian soname of > libsysfs.so.10 when upstream releas

CAP_FOWNER

2003-10-12 Thread Bastian Blank
hi folks may package scripts assume, that they have the fowner capability available? many postinst scripts first set the owner of a file/dir and try to change the permissions after. this is only allowed with this capability set. bastian -- "What terrible way to die." "There are

Re: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-12 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Jochen Voss [Sat, Oct 11 2003, 11:32:33PM]: > > Also, how do you display the names of the continents so that all of your > > non-English-speaking users can understand them? :) > I did not try a fresh install of Debian for a long time. How > do we display the language names now so that

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Re: Packaging sysfsutils: static library?

2003-10-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 01:05:11AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: [...] >> Is it reasonable to provide just a static library? Policy 8.3 allows >> it in principle, but since I'm not very experienced at this, I would >> welcome any suggestions and your opinions. >

RE: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Julian Mehnle
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Gerfried Fuchs > > The concept of SMTP AUTH is completely new to you, is it? Sorry, > > these kind of objections are just as silly as you call the proposal > > silly. > > Uhm, no, why should it be? Having gnus set up to use SMTP auth and > using a different server base

Re: Bug#215205: language-chooser: Language order shouldn't be alphabetical

2003-10-12 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:18:46PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: > > I would suggest adopting a policy for the language order. Of course, > > determining the "most important" languages is a very delicate thing as > > everyone would like to have his own language listed on the first pa

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-12 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 02:31, Steve Langasek wrote: > On the shared library side, we already have the NEEDED field in ELF libs > which is more elegant; so the .la's are redundant (and, indeed, can get > in the way). I understand Scott is working on fixing libtool so that it > doesn't try to redund

Re: Packaging sysfsutils: static library?

2003-10-12 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi! Am 2003-10-12 1:44 -0500 schrieb Adam Majer: > Me too, but I guess I'll have to see how udev looks. How does it look > like? Will it retain compatability with the devfs device names? Theoretically yes. The concept of udev was to throw out naming policies out of the kernel. The userspace daem

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Gerfried Fuchs (Discussion moved from -private, all text and references which refer to stuff not ok to quote outside -private removed.) | * Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-09 22:03]: | | > I think it's a silly proposal, since it will hinder people like me who | > are sending all t

Re: Packaging sysfsutils: static library?

2003-10-12 Thread Adam Majer
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 01:05:11AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > Hello everybody! > > Today I read about the upcoming architecture for kernel device files > [1]. devfs is already marked obsolete (what a pity, I really like > it...) and will be replaced by an userspace daemon udev. Me too, but I gue