On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 01:01:24PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 05:28:51PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
This adds up to a lot of effort for a dead-end architecture. Do you believe
that such ports are going to command enough interest to be able to keep up
with
Benjamin,
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 09:12:45AM +0100, Benjamin Mesing wrote:
Why not freeze the archive at a given time and make a release for all
architectures ready until then. As this code is frozen, the porters can
continue to work on the frozen codebase where only patches are allowed
Changes:
lsb (2.0-6) unstable; urgency=low
.
* Create lsb package in binary-indep step. (Closes: #297788)
* Merge /lib/lsb/init-functions from Ubuntu.
* Split /lib/lsb/init-functions into arch-all lsb-base package; this
functionality is thus available for use by other,
Does anyone use the libasound2-plugins package? If so, how?
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On Mar 26, Thomas Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Should Debian initscripts use lsb init-functions?
Post-sarge I'm probably going to try with my packages.
It would probably be best if this were decided at the project level.
Yes, but it looks hard. Also, policy should reflect packaging practices,
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 05:37:02PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please don't rehash old arguments. Nobody has argued that we should put
non-free packages into main, but we don't agree on what is free and what
isn't for all types of packages.
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Is there a project-wide policy for support for devfs (and devfs-style,
e.g. udev devfs.rules) device naming?
I'm asking because of obstruction (from upstream) regarding the
application of a simple patch to allow yaboot to support it:
Le vendredi 25 mars 2005 à 22:08 +0100, Michelle Konzack a écrit :
Hello *,
curently I am coding a tool which run from cron (as root) periodicly
and if a $USER is loged into X it shows Messages.
My Problem is, HOW to find the $USER who is connected to a $DISPLAY.
If I start two xserver
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, Roger Leigh wrote:
Is there a project-wide policy for support for devfs (and devfs-style,
e.g. udev devfs.rules) device naming?
Do it if you can. It is not mandated anywhere, but it is clearly a very good
idea. We should even make it a *may* in policy to stress this, I
Well, just reporting that this whole instructive interchange resulted in
my using in the remote-boot nodes of our clusters the policy-rc.d script
#!/bin/bash
test -x /sbin/runlevel || exit 101
if [ `/sbin/runlevel` == unknown ] ; then
exit 101
fi
exit 0
It solved the problem with rwhod in
* Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050326 08:18]:
And one of the reasons for which licensing for documentation has not
been discussed is that most people were not aware of the scope of the
editorial changes, so there was no reason to discuss anything.
You can keep repeating that lie
Dear Debian developers,
The tools multi-apt-get-* and multi-dpkg-* can be seen as extensions of
the corresponding Debian tools to this kind of cluster arquitecture. It
has enabled a small management team to maintain large sets of terminals
here in our Institute and other nearby institutions.
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* Package name: opencubicplayer
Version : 0.20040830
Upstream Authors: Stian Sebastian Skjelstad [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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* URL : http://labs.nixia.no/ocp.php
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* Package name : tinyerp
* Version: 2.0
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* Licence: GPL
* Description:
Tiny ERP is a Enterprise Resource Planning and Customer Relationship
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Dear developers,
I'm writing a debhelper script for zope packaging and I need to
add very similar config script to the packages created with it.
Actually, I'm using a common package (zope-common) with common
templates which I'm using with db_register and db_subst, and a
debhelper package
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, Gürkan Sengün wrote:
This is a port of the Open Cubic Player to Linux.
Jeez, I have felt a damn huge wave of nostalgia just now. Time to get my
Mindcandy DVD out of the shelf and watch side B again!
--
One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, Gürkan Sengün wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:54:03 -0300
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, Gürkan Sengün wrote:
This is a port of the Open Cubic Player to Linux.
Jeez, I have felt a damn huge wave of nostalgia just now.
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Additionally, other kernels (such as the FreeBSD kernel) that do have
a /proc do not have it functionally overloaded like the Linux one.
That's an excellent point. While it's likely that a /proc filesystem
will be written for the Hurd, it's very
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* Package name: mazeofgalious
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Description
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 07:28:51AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:21:39 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul
Hampson) wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 12:36:52PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:47:22 +0100, Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
* Marc Haber [Mon,
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, Gürkan Sengün wrote:
* Package name: mazeofgalious
This game cannot be packaged, it infringes a lot of Konami copyright. You
must remember that the game *design* itself is copyrighted, as well as the
name, the characters, the graphics, etc.
That said, it is almost
On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 11:17 +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
* Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050322 22:25]:
AFAIK we don't have a good What you can do to help us documentation
(please correct me, if I am wrong).
How about http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ ?
Which is linked from the main
On Mar 26, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, while there was lots of discussion, there wasn't actually a
proposal explaining what the reduced level of freedom would be and why
firmware needs less freedom.
I explained this multiple times and I believe that I was not the
On Mar 26, Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a project-wide policy for support for devfs (and devfs-style,
e.g. udev devfs.rules) device naming?
No, but nearly all packages support both conventions.
I'm asking because of obstruction (from upstream) regarding the
application of a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Mar 26, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, while there was lots of discussion, there wasn't actually a
proposal explaining what the reduced level of freedom would be and why
firmware needs less freedom.
I explained this
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Mar 26, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, while there was lots of discussion, there wasn't actually a
proposal explaining what the reduced level of freedom would be and why
firmware needs less freedom.
Anyway, you can
On Mar 26, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You kept saying nothing more than we don't care about modifying them
because nobody will ever want to, which is, well, simply false.
Yet another strawman. What is false is your description of my arguments,
which were much more complex than
Scripsit Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 05:37:02PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
Do you have any arguments for this that do *not* basically reason
backwards from we want this stuff to be in main, freedoms or not?
Well, I would start with we want this stuff in main
Scripsit Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Henning Makholm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050326 00:55]:
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri)
And one of the reasons for which licensing for documentation has not
been discussed is that most people were not aware of the scope of the
editorial
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Mar 26, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You kept saying nothing more than we don't care about modifying them
because nobody will ever want to, which is, well, simply false.
Yet another strawman. What is false is your description of
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The only one who was aware that the outcome would change the release
manager's position wrt. freedom bugs in sarge seems to have been the
release manager himself. But that does not change the fact that it was
common knowledge that the amendment was
On Mar 26, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You made many arguments, but that doesn't mean they answered the two
specific questions: what freedoms, exactly, and why reduced ones for
this particular class of software?
Since I answered both questions I think it's obvious that we
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 03:59:49PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 05:37:02PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
Do you have any arguments for this that do *not* basically reason
backwards from we want this stuff to be in main,
On Friday 25 March 2005 02:51 pm, Adam McKenna wrote:
No matter how you feel about the term editorial changes, it seems to me
that if these changes were really so bad, and the majority of the project
is now against them, they should be easy enough to roll back.
All we need is another GR.
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, Gürkan Sengün wrote:
This game cannot be packaged, it infringes a lot of Konami copyright. You
must remember that the game *design* itself is copyrighted, as well as the
name, the characters, the graphics, etc.
What about Bomberman? Pacman? Pingus? Supertux? No I
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:54:03 -0300
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, Gürkan Sengün wrote:
This is a port of the Open Cubic Player to Linux.
Jeez, I have felt a damn huge wave of nostalgia just now. Time to get my
Mindcandy DVD out of the shelf and
Hi Henrique
This game cannot be packaged, it infringes a lot of Konami copyright. You
must remember that the game *design* itself is copyrighted, as well as the
name, the characters, the graphics, etc.
What about Bomberman? Pacman? Pingus? Supertux? No I will not remove it
because of the
On Saturday 26 March 2005 03:04 pm, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
As for the other games you mentioned: I don't know about PacMan, that one
might be on the public domain for all I know. Same for bomberman. Pingus
only copies the concept, so it would be in about as much trouble as Manesis
Thanks :) hehe, it wasn't different to me:
but it can't only play modules, but also mp3 and ogg.
and the file selector is very handy (type in the path you want,
letters only (and / as well as dot).
Stian will work on rewriting the assembly parts to c so it gets
easier for porting.
On Saturday 26 March 2005 20:25, David Nusinow wrote:
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 03:59:49PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 05:37:02PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
Do you have any arguments for this that do *not* basically
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On Mar 27, David Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
soapboxWe have main for those things which are DFSG-free and non-free for
the things redistributable but not-DFSG-free and there are people who rely on
this distinction.
So we must have been screwing them really bad until now...
Where are
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 10:02:51AM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote:
Changes:
lsb (2.0-6) unstable; urgency=low
.
* Create lsb package in binary-indep step. (Closes: #297788)
* Merge /lib/lsb/init-functions from Ubuntu.
* Split /lib/lsb/init-functions into arch-all lsb-base
===
We interrupt your regularly scheduled flamewar to bring you this
hemi-important announcement.
===
I just uploaded aptitude 0.2.15.9 to Incoming. Most of
Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
Why #DEBHELPER# substitution isn't implemented for config file?
Because I had not seen a need for it yet.
How can I handle this?
File a wishlist bug report. It's not particularly hard to write the
necessary patches, although not trivial enough for me to do before
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Adeodato Sim wrote:
# test -r /proc/1/root || echo Inside a chroot
What if an postinst script at some point drops privs to a non-root user and
grsec is preventing it from reading any process' info other than its own user's?
Also, as pointed out earlier this wouldn't work on HURD.
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Thomas Hood wrote:
Should Debian initscripts use lsb init-functions?
Where can we find these functions?
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On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 12:53 +0100, Grkan Sengn wrote:
Description : Music file player
This is a port of the Open Cubic Player to Linux.
.
It would be nice if the description had some definition of what the
software does. Video player? Audio player? Without any previous exposure
to the
la, 2005-03-26 kello 21:35 -0700, Jeremy Nickurak kirjoitti:
On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 12:53 +0100, Gürkan Sengün wrote:
Description : Music file player
This is a port of the Open Cubic Player to Linux.
.
It would be nice if the description had some definition of what the
software
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 09:25:00AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 05:37:02PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
Do you have any arguments for this that do *not* basically reason
backwards from we want this stuff to be in main,
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Frankly I can't spot the flaw in this approach. In general we want to
distribute all useful bitstreams (programs, documentation and firmware)
in Debian. However we are forced to disqualify the ones that don't have
adequate freedoms. It's a subtractive
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 10:37:57AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
Anyway, you can find a very old and partial selection of my arguments
at http://blog.bofh.it/id_33 .
Nothing there explains what the reduced level of freedom would be:
what
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And nothing there explains why firmware should have less freedom,
except for the claim that without this we won't be able to distribute
the drivers (and you say how important those drivers are).
Maybe. But why won't you refute the arguments that
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 11:44:17PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
One reason for the DFSG's modifiability and source requirements is to
preserve our ability to fix things. I see no reason why we shouldn't
insist on that for firmware just as we do for openoffice.org.
You don't have that
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:16:52 +0100
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:35:49 +0100
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:27:18 +0100
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:37:21 +0100
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:44:19 +0100
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:01:11 +0100
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:40:10 +0100
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Maintainer: Sebastian Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:58:53 +0100
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:20:24 -0600
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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:17:33 +0100
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Maintainer: Joop Stakenborg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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