Re: Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

May be, are we talking about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_paradox Daniele -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.18 - Release Date: 19/04/2005 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "un

Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: >Therefore, all GPL'd programs will have to go to non-free. > >Q.E.D. > >Is this a correct interpretation of what will happen after the release >of sarge or is there any mistake in my proof? The problem you have identified is not new, or unique to free sof

Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 06:24:51AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > The nice thing about 3:1 majorities is, that once you've tricked > something as "Editorial amendments" into it, a 25% minority is enough to > block reverting it... Nobody was "tricked". I believe this claim so laughable, and at the

Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 06:08:50AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > If it contained only editorial changes as you are saying, you've thereby > proven that your statement the documentation licencing was "firmly > decided" was wrong. The SC ratified by SC2004-003 is abundantly clear: documentation must

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 09:31:53PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 12:03:07AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 05:31:52AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > If you really want to retain your "everything is software" point of > > > view, think about the cons

Re: More DDTP problems

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: I think is best move all there, convert to subversion, and then we oh no. It is CVS now, and we should'nt move it to something different for now. Another one might like arch more, even an otherone might like to use even another version control system.

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 12:03:07AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 05:31:52AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > If you really want to retain your "everything is software" point of > > view, think about the consequences and work on them _before_ starting > > the removals - and pr

{Arch,OCaml,Python,Mono} Packages for Adoption

Hello, I'm going through the list of packages I'm maintainer for, and found several that I no longer use. Some I've tried to give away long ago, but for whatever reason, never were picked up. I've submitted orphaned versions of all of these and filed appropriate wnpp bugs. [Arch] cscvs tla-tool

Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 11:52:19PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: >... > (GR2004-004 didn't make > any sense at all, nor does it make any sense that Sarge can ship > with non-free documentation, and at the time I found the posts of > the RM on the topic to make no sense at all, but I was satisfied wit

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 05:31:52AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > If you really want to retain your "everything is software" point of > view, think about the consequences and work on them _before_ starting > the removals - and provide solutions for them that are available at the > time of the remov

Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 05:06:16AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > I've heard three different stories describing this GR: > 1. it contained only Editorial amendments and didn't change anything > 2. the Debian developers decided in this GR that documentation has to >fulfill the full DFSG guidelines

Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 11:52:19PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 05:06:16AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > I've heard three different stories describing this GR: > > 1. it contained only Editorial amendments and didn't change anything > > 2. the Debian developers decided in t

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 04:29:42AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > Is this wanted? > > This may not be wanted, but what is your alternative? If you really want to retain your "everything is software" point of view, think about the consequences and w

Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:13:04PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: >... > This makes it extremely clear that, as far as the Social Contract is > concerned, everything in Debian is software, covered by the DFSG. This > is a discussion that's done and complete, settled by GR2004-003, and > I'm not inter

Re: Temporal Release Strategy

On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 04:45:17PM -0400, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 11:59:52PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 10:12:31AM -0400, Patrick A. Ouellette wrote: > > >... > > > The progression I see is: > > > > > > unstable -> testing -> candidate ->

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 06:56:53PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 10:08:50AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > > How about having a new section, "open-source", or something, for the > > things that fall in the category described above? (i.e. software that > > is _almost_ f

Re: Bug#305287: ITP: slony1 -- Slony-I is a "master to multiple slaves" replication system with cascading and failover.

* Tim Goodaire ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I haven't been able to find an ITP for this. I've found an RFP for it > though (278810). Is this what you're referring to? Yes. > Also, my ITP bug (305287) has already been closed on me. Apparently I Yes, I closed it since it was a duplicate WNPP bug.

SE Linux in Etch - was Release sarge now, or discuss etch issues?

On Tuesday 15 March 2005 09:32, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fact that the release team now sees the light at the end of the > tunnel for the release of sarge means that now is the time we need to > begin planning for etch. Allowing unstable development to pick back up > after a relea

Re: Bug#305287: ITP: slony1 -- Slony-I is a "master to multiple slaves" replication system with cascading and failover.

Carlos, On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 06:54:41PM -0500, Carlos C Soto wrote: > Tim, check "The debian-mentors FAQ" > > It say: "If it's not already listed, file an ITP bug report against WNPP > as detailed by section 5.1 >

Re: Bug#305287: ITP: slony1 -- Slony-I is a "master to multiple slaves" replication system with cascading and failover.

Tim Goodaire wrote: I haven't been able to find an ITP for this. I've found an RFP for it though (278810). Is this what you're referring to? >From the wnpp page http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=wnpp I get this: #278810: ITP: Slony-I -- A replication system for the PostgreS

Re: Bug#305287: ITP: slony1 -- Slony-I is a "master to multiple slaves" replication system with cascading and failover.

I haven't been able to find an ITP for this. I've found an RFP for it though (278810). Is this what you're referring to? Also, my ITP bug (305287) has already been closed on me. Apparently I was supposed to change the title of the RFP bug to ITP, but I've been unable to find anything in the Debian

Re: Recurring problems since upgrade of openldap2 (2.1 -> 2.2)

[...] > > Not to mention that you probably don't need SASL. Could not reproduce > this yet and it seems that it normally occurs with ldaps or failover > configurations. > In fact, I'm using ldaps and failover: BASEdc=xxx URI ldaps://x.y/ ldaps://z.y/ TLS_CACERT /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.p

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 10:08:50AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > How about having a new section, "open-source", or something, for the > things that fall in the category described above? (i.e. software that > is _almost_ free, but has some small limitation over some freedom) Debian is hard p

Re: Recurring problems since upgrade of openldap2 (2.1 -> 2.2)

Hi Michael, On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 12:09:15AM +0200, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > I don't know which package I should file this bug against, but since the > upgrade > of the openldap2-packages I'm seeing these errors quite frequently: > > chown: > /home/roland/debian/openldap/build/2.1.30/openl

Bug#305421: ITP: libtemplate-plugin-yaml-perl -- simple Template Toolkit Plugin Interface to the YAML module

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stephen Quinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libtemplate-plugin-yaml-perl Version : 1.22 Upstream Author : Richard Clamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/R/RC/RCLAMP/Template-Plugin-YAML-1.22.tar.

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 10:08:50AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > How about having a new section, "open-source", or something, for the > things that fall in the category described above? (i.e. software that > is _almost_ free, but has some small limitation over some freedom) Let's call it

Bug#305420: ITP: darcs-buildpackage -- Suite to help with Debian packages in Darcs archives

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: darcs-buildpackage Version : 0.5.0 Upstream Author : John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : None yet * License : GPL Description : Suite to help with Debian packages

Re: More DDTP problems

Hi Otavio, On Tuesday, 19 Apr 2005, you wrote: > > I think is best move all there, convert to subversion, and then we oh no. It is CVS now, and we should'nt move it to something different for now. Another one might like arch more, even an otherone might like to use even another version control sy

Recurring problems since upgrade of openldap2 (2.1 -> 2.2)

Hi list! I don't know which package I should file this bug against, but since the upgrade of the openldap2-packages I'm seeing these errors quite frequently: chown: /home/roland/debian/openldap/build/2.1.30/openldap2-2.1.30/libraries/libldap/cyrus.c:468: ldap_int_sasl_open: Assertion `lc->lconn_s

Re: Bug#304521: ITP: wanna-build -- Database management for package (re-)compilation/status control

On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 01:24:56PM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: > > How/where can I commit to a common repo? I guess I will have to rephrase my question: Where is the repo where the members of the alioth project have been commiting? At least, I could checkout the sources and send them patches, so

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Re: ITP: spca5xx -- Device driver for USB webcams based on the spca5xx chips

Great! I use this module and wold be great to have it on debian. I was thinking on put a RFP bug for it. -- Carlos C Soto :: eclipxe

Re: More DDTP problems

> "martin" == Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: martin> Hi all, martin> On Monday, 04 Apr 2005, you wrote: >> On Apr 4, 2005 4:04 PM, Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > I am currently on that (started last weekend). Jeroen sent me >> the

Re: More DDTP problems

Hi all, On Tuesday, 19 Apr 2005, I wrote: > I registered a alioth project today, which hopefully will be aprooved > soon. FYI project approoved. https://alioth.debian.org/projects/ddtp/ is our friend. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: More DDTP problems

On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 03:51:41PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > So how do we want to proceed further? I think a good idea might be as > soon as we have the alioth project to upload the tar.gz Jeroen send me. > Then every file which has been checked for trojanisation (and is > negative) could

Re: More DDTP problems

Hi all, On Monday, 04 Apr 2005, you wrote: > On Apr 4, 2005 4:04 PM, Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am currently on that (started last weekend). Jeroen sent me the CVS > > tarball. I hoped to finished it at the weekend but it's more than > > expected and i did not yet under

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Bug#305326: ITP: cldump -- Clarion database files extractor

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: cldump Version : 0.8 Upstream Author : Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://technologeek.org/projects/cldump * License : GPL Description : Clarion databas

Call to fix bug 302191: libexpat1-dev required for new python-4suite

Hi Arno, could you please fix the #302191 pending for libexpat1-dev package? I've attached the required patch to #302191 so it should not be a big problem to make a new release. Without this modification I'm not able to build the python-4suite package right. I think the same problem may occur for

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Bug#305324: ITP: libmail-verp-perl -- Variable Envelope Return Paths (VERP) address encoder/decoder

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libmail-verp-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : Gyepi Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~gyepi/ * License : PERL licensing terms (GPL or Artistic)

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