Re: un pensiero sul libro di Martin Kraft

2005-07-20 Thread Samuele Giovanni Tonon
Mauro Darida wrote: Sono deluso che proprio in questa lista l'opinione prevalente non sostiene leggi a tutela del diritto d'autore più eque. non entro nel merito del discorso, la mia l'ho gia' detta e non ho la presunzione di sapere che cosa sia giusto o meno. un tizio una volta disse

Re: un pensiero sul libro di Martin Kraft

2005-07-20 Thread Luca Brivio
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:24:32 +0200 Samuele Giovanni Tonon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Io non condivido la tua opinione, ma sono pronto a dare la vita perchè tu possa esprimerla Il tizio sarebbe Voltaire, che però non era sempre tanto coerente... Comunque non ho avuto la stessa impressione di

Re: Problème : abrévi ation de la date en français

2005-07-20 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 02:09:11AM -1000, Christin LIVINE wrote: Bonjour, Il y a un problème avec l'abréviation de la date en français sous Nautilus, KDE, peut-être dans tout Debian, et dans toutes les autres distributions. En se basant sur Windows, ICU

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:39:23PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: It's a C++ library and the ABI changed due to being compiled with GCC 4.0. [Actually, although it's written in C++, AFAIK it only exports a C interface so the transition may not have been necessary. I only realized this yesterday

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread Brian Nelson
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:39:23PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: It's a C++ library and the ABI changed due to being compiled with GCC 4.0. [Actually, although it's written in C++, AFAIK it only exports a C interface so the transition may not have been

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Shot - Piotr Szotkowski
Hello. David Nusinow: On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:30:14AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: [The small amount of stuff that _is_ different seems to mostly be high-profile end-user GUI apps that aren't going to have much significance for a server anyway.] Then why not run Debian? My wild guess,

Re: BTS version tracking

2005-07-20 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Lun 18 Juillet 2005 23:36, Matthew Palmer a écrit : On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 12:06:29PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: A frequently requested feature for the bug tracking system in recent years has been the ability to track which bugs apply to which distributions, so that, eg, maintainers and

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:39:23PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: It's a C++ library and the ABI changed due to being compiled with GCC 4.0. [Actually, although it's written in C++, AFAIK it only exports a C

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-20 08:54]: On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:21:09PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? Why is this question on debian-devel, instead of in the inbox of the m.d.n maintainers? You are right, wrong place, sorry.

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 09:52 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] So I would say just drop libaspell15c and reupload anything that was already wrongfully uploaded again. What does that do to people who have

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 09:52 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] So I would say just drop libaspell15c and reupload anything that was already wrongfully uploaded

about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Paul Brossier
Hi, With all these great news about the BTS these days, it would be nice to think about adding a voting feature: a way to count the number of users that are annoyed by each bug. It could be either a simple way to submit a follow-up to say 'hey, i faced this one too', either just a button on

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 7/20/05, Paul Brossier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all these great news about the BTS these days, it would be nice to think about adding a voting feature: a way to count the number of users that are annoyed by each bug. It could be either a simple way to submit a follow-up to say 'hey, i

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 7/20/05, Paul Brossier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, With all these great news about the BTS these days, it would be nice to think about adding a voting feature: a way to count the number of users that are annoyed by each bug. It could be either a simple way to submit a follow-up to say

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread zorglub
Hello, Why not just submit a 'me too' email to the bug report? I think it should be a command for the control bot. A simple 'me too' mail clutters the bug report, cannot be easily counted, whereas a simple command (confirm #XX for example) would allow to count such votes, use them as search

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Stuart Yeates
Paul Brossier wrote: Hi, With all these great news about the BTS these days, it would be nice to think about adding a voting feature: a way to count the number of users that are annoyed by each bug. It could be either a simple way to submit a follow-up to say 'hey, i faced this one too',

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Andreas Fester
I like this idea too, since it would allow better prioritization of bugs, and maybe help for a better planning of releases in the future. Unfortunately, to really avoid abuse, this would end in the necessity to introduce some kind of registration and login mechanism to the BTS. What about a

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Christoph Haas
Hi, Nico... I'm not reading debian-devel for two days and now this. ;) On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:21:09PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? mentors.debian.net is work in progress. As we are working on an improvement of the import process (that analyses the

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Paul Brossier
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:49:37AM +0100, Stuart Yeates wrote: Maybe a good place to start would be to cross reference BTS with the popularity-contest database. This doesn't measure annoyance, of course, but it's a a great measure of how many people are potentially effected by a bug. surely

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:24:02AM +0100, Paul Brossier wrote: Hi, With all these great news about the BTS these days, it would be nice to think about adding a voting feature: a way to count the number of users that are annoyed by each bug. It could be either a simple way to submit a

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Nigel Jones
On 20/07/05, Paul Brossier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:49:37AM +0100, Stuart Yeates wrote: Maybe a good place to start would be to cross reference BTS with the popularity-contest database. This doesn't measure annoyance, of course, but it's a a great measure of how

popcon (was Re: about voting for bugs)

2005-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:29:37AM +0100, Paul Brossier wrote: surely installing popcon should be encouraged. I've been thinking about how popcon might be suggested by debian-installer. A cursory google search shows that this has been discussed in the past: can anyone point me at a summary? --

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, if you ask me any bug is worth fixing, also if only a single user complained about the problem. So why spending effort in rating bugs? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Christoph Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-20 12:28]: I'm not reading debian-devel for two days and now this. ;) :) On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:21:09PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? mentors.debian.net is work in progress. As we are working on an

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Christoph Haas
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 01:01:09PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: The intention, as I understand it, isn't to be a general-purpose package repository (at least, last time I looked at it, no pre-built binary packages were provided), but to be a staging area of sorts for packages which people

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:44:43PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: Then why not run Debian? That's a question for the admins. Is the server only hosting this debian.net service and nothing else? Maybe it is primarily running something else and offered to host this debian.net service on top. As

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Paul Brossier
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:40:08PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: On 20/07/05, Paul Brossier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:49:37AM +0100, Stuart Yeates wrote: Maybe a good place to start would be to cross reference BTS with the popularity-contest database. This doesn't

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:44:14PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, if you ask me any bug is worth fixing, also if only a single user complained about the problem. So why spending effort in rating bugs? We rate bugs already, by severity, but I understand your point, and it appears to be one

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andreas Tille] if you ask me any bug is worth fixing, also if only a single user complained about the problem. So why spending effort in rating bugs? To get some indication on the order the bugs should be solved in? As we have limited time and people, it is smart to start with the bugs

Re: popcon (was Re: about voting for bugs)

2005-07-20 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Jon Dowland] I've been thinking about how popcon might be suggested by debian-installer. A cursory google search shows that this has been discussed in the past: can anyone point me at a summary? The next version of d-i will ask for participation during the installation. It was fixed just

Re: popcon (was Re: about voting for bugs)

2005-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 01:01:09PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: The next version of d-i will ask for participation during the installation. It was fixed just before debconf5. Brilliant - that's the outcome I thought would be best :) Sad we didn't manage to do that before sarge was

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: To get some indication on the order the bugs should be solved in? As we have limited time and people, it is smart to start with the bugs affecting most people. IMHO this might lead to the wrong assumption that bugs with only one vote have lower

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:44:14PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: if you ask me any bug is worth fixing, also if only a single user complained about the problem. So why spending effort in rating bugs? Some of the relevant Bugzilla developers have articulated a couple of reasons for their voting

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 01:00:04PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Andreas Tille] if you ask me any bug is worth fixing, also if only a single user complained about the problem. So why spending effort in rating bugs? To get some indication on the order the bugs should be solved in?

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Paul Brossier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, With all these great news about the BTS these days, it would be nice to think about adding a voting feature: a way to count the number of users that are annoyed by each bug. It could be either a simple way to submit a follow-up to say 'hey, i

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Goswin von Brederlow [Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:26:28 +0200]: I would prefer a subscribe for bugs. If I am a user that hits the same bug I want to get mails send so nnn-submitter and especialy want to get a mail when the bug gets closed. I don't want to subscribe to the PTS, just the one bug.

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Paul Brossier
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 01:12:52PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: To get some indication on the order the bugs should be solved in? As we have limited time and people, it is smart to start with the bugs affecting most people. IMHO this might

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Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, To get some indication on the order the bugs should be solved in? As we have limited time and people, it is smart to start with the bugs affecting most people. I can only see usefulness for QA team (orphaned) packages. A properly maintained package should have a thinking

Re: Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread Nathanael Nerode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Actually, although it's written in C++, AFAIK it only exports a C interface so the transition may not have been necessary. I only realized this yesterday though and I'm not entirely sure a non-transition would be safe.] Non-transition is safe and desirable if all the

Re: BTS version tracking

2005-07-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 10:34:23PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 'reopen' command takes an optional submitter argument, so it was difficult to get a version in here unambiguously. Instead, we've introduced a new 'found' command, which says I've found

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They considered the former reason much more important since it helps give a more positive experience for users even if the voting information is not otherwise used. Like those Press to get a signal buttons on traffic lights that aren't hooked up to

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Goswin von Brederlow [Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:26:28 +0200]: I would prefer a subscribe for bugs. If I am a user that hits the same bug I want to get mails send so nnn-submitter and especialy want to get a mail when the bug gets closed. I don't want to

Re: Who needs libcurl3? (was libcurl3-dev: A development package linked again gnutls needed)

2005-07-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 20, sean finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think that would solve the problem by muting the symptoms. what happens when the next free-but-not-quite-gpl-compatible licensed software is linked against libcurl (or something similar)? Not relevant, gnutls is LGPL'ed. i know i'm repeating

-Wl,--as-needed -Wl,-O1 devilries

2005-07-20 Thread Loïc Minier
Hi, Several FTBFS are currently caused on at least sparc and alpha with the current toolchain in packages using -Wl,--as-needed. It seems -Wl,-O1 is now used by default, so as soon as you use -Wl,--as-needed, you're likely to hit this toolchain bug. The toolchain maintainers were

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:39:23PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: Uh... no... http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/07/msg1.html It's a C++ library and the ABI changed due to being compiled with GCC 4.0. [Actually, although it's written in C++, AFAIK it only exports a C

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 09:28:22AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:39:23PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: [Actually, although it's written in C++, AFAIK it only exports a C interface so the transition may not have been necessary. I only realized this yesterday though and

Bug#319201: ITP: kiax -- IAX client application

2005-07-20 Thread Mark Purcell
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mark Purcell [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: kiax Version : 0.8.4 Upstream Author : (c) 2004 - 2005, Emil Stoyanov and the Kiax Team * URL : http://kiax.sourceforge.net * License : GPL Description : IAX client

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread GOMBAS Gabor
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 09:28:22AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: Christ, not another one. Is there any sort of automated way that we can check for these sorts of libraries before messing things up again? Theoretically libraries should export only the symbols of their public API, and such a check

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hamish Moffatt wrote: Ubuntu has transitioned it in their 'universe' to tqsllib1c2. However none of the exported headers contain the magic :: sign of C++, so I suspect it's unnecessary. (A recompile to link against libstdc++6 should be sufficient, without a name change). Is a non-present ::

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Joey Hess
Andreas Fester wrote: What about a simpler solution for the beginning? Assumed that annoying bugs have more replies, the bugs could be sorted by the number of replies to get an idea of their priority. If this is implemented as an additional query that can be used from the main page of the BTS,

Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread W. Borgert
Hi, what do you think about the usefulness of technical (and other strange) details in package description? I think, those are annoying and should be avoided, but maybe I can learn, why they are useful. Examples: Foo is a Perl-based program that... libBar is written in C... libBang is

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * W. Borgert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-20 18:08]: what do you think about the usefulness of technical (and other strange) details in package description? I think, those are annoying and should be avoided, but maybe I can learn, why they are useful. Examples: Foo is a Perl-based

Re: Reformatted Ubuntu Patches Repository

2005-07-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 17 juillet 2005 à 15:51 +0300, Joachim Breitner a écrit : Hi, brought to you by the Utnubu team (that is me, still waiting for more members, hint hint :-)), is the a newly formatted repository of Ubuntu patches. On http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/by_maint/ you will

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 18:13 +0200, Nico Golde wrote: [...] I think one reason could be that some poeple would rather install a programm in a language they know and they are able to debug. Just a guess. Debtags facets[0] are better for this. Descriptions are supposed to help *ordinary* users

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 06:13:22PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: I think one reason could be that some poeple would rather install a programm in a language they know and they are able to debug. Just a guess. You might want to look into the implemented-in debtags facet instead, then; it's probably

Bug#319245: ITP: libdbus-ruby -- Ruby binding for D-BUS

2005-07-20 Thread Paul van Tilburg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul van Tilburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libdbus-ruby Version : 0.1.10 Upstream Author : Leon Breedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://rubyforge.org/projects/dbus-ruby/ * License : GPL Description : Ruby

Re: Reformatted Ubuntu Patches Repository

2005-07-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:57:34PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le dimanche 17 juillet 2005 à 15:51 +0300, Joachim Breitner a écrit : This is meant as a more convenient way for Debian maintainers to look for possible useful patches from Ubuntu. This is a good idea, but it is based on

Re: Reformatted Ubuntu Patches Repository

2005-07-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 10:21 -0700, Matt Zimmerman a écrit : On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:57:34PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le dimanche 17 juillet 2005 à 15:51 +0300, Joachim Breitner a écrit : This is meant as a more convenient way for Debian maintainers to look for possible

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread Brian Nelson
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 09:52:13AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, that fix is not in the stable package of aspell. In stable, aspell-bin just depends on libaspell15 (= 0.60), so a partial upgrade of just libaspell15 would break

Re: Reformatted Ubuntu Patches Repository

2005-07-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 07:29:00PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 10:21 -0700, Matt Zimmerman a écrit : On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:57:34PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le dimanche 17 juillet 2005 à 15:51 +0300, Joachim Breitner a écrit : This is meant as a

Please confirm (conf#be8dc468c47a7b17a576503fd4d6aa04)

2005-07-20 Thread Kirk Reiser
IMPORTANT INFORMATION! This is an automated message. The message you sent (attached below) requires confirmation before it can be delivered. To confirm that you sent the message below, just hit the Reply button and send this message back (you don't need to edit anything). Once this is done,

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wednesday 20 July 2005 08:47 am, W. Borgert wrote: Do such descriptions justify bug reports of severity=minor? Yes, with perhaps one exception: libBar is written in C... This is almost a sensible start to a description, since the language of implementation actually matters for a

Re: Reformatted Ubuntu Patches Repository

2005-07-20 Thread Lars Wirzenius
This discussion may be worth having, but it has nothing to do with DebConf5, so please leave out the Cc to the debconf5-event list. Thanks. ke, 2005-07-20 kello 20:22 +0200, Josselin Mouette kirjoitti: Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 10:48 -0700, Matt Zimmerman a écrit : I'm talking about the

Re: Reformatted Ubuntu Patches Repository

2005-07-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:22:25PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 10:48 -0700, Matt Zimmerman a écrit : What you have is a 3-way merge of (1.4-1)-(1.4-1 + Ubuntu changes) against 1.5-1. Sorry, but no. http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/by_maint/[EMAIL

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, W. Borgert wrote: Foo is a Perl-based program that... libBar is written in C... libBang is written in only 42 lines of source code... Baz has been written by me... Do such descriptions justify bug reports of severity=minor? Well, I would guess wishlist is the right way

Re: Reformatted Ubuntu Patches Repository

2005-07-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 10:48 -0700, Matt Zimmerman a écrit : I'm talking about the Debian packages involved. For example, I have the diff against solarwolf 1.4-1, while 1.5-1 was uploaded on 17 Feb 2004. What you have is a 3-way merge of (1.4-1)-(1.4-1 + Ubuntu changes) against

Bug#319256: ITP: nadoka - IRC Client Server Program

2005-07-20 Thread Taku YASUI
Package: wnpp Owner: Taku YASUI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Severity: wishlist * Package name: nadoka Version : 0.6.4 Upstream Author : SASADA Koichi [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.atdot.net/nadoka/ * License : Ruby's Description : IRC Client Server Program

ITP: libclass-objecttemplate-perl -- Perl extension for an optimized template builder base class.

2005-07-20 Thread Torsten Werner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Torsten Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libclass-objecttemplate-perl Version : 0.7-2 Upstream Author : Sriram Srinivasam, Jason E. Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL :

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 02:48:51PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a new debian maintainer is also a ubuntu maintainer in some sense. Great news! Where's my paycheck? (both of the above arguments have already been raised long ago, yes.) A minority

Re: [RFC] Auto-Accept libs with just changed SONAME?

2005-07-20 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sáb, 2005-07-16 às 17:22 +0200, Joerg Jaspert escreveu: I vote against it. Nice example just arrived yesterday: Just an soname change, maintainer didnt fix his scripts, no files installed in .debs. Simple, nice, example against automated addition of files. This could happen to new upstream

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Steve Greenland
On 20-Jul-05, 10:47 (CDT), W. Borgert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do you think about the usefulness of technical (and other strange) details in package description? While mostly agreeing with the other comments (libbar is a C library is useful/appropriate; foo is a perl program is not.),

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2005-07-20 kello 14:47 -0500, Steve Greenland kirjoitti: While mostly agreeing with the other comments (libbar is a C library is useful/appropriate; foo is a perl program is not.), I'd guess this is a symptom of a more general problem: far too many package descriptions are taken verbatim

Re: Bug#319256: ITP: nadoka - IRC Client Server Program

2005-07-20 Thread Steve Greenland
Well, since I just whined about the poor quality of descriptions, I guess I need to contribute. Since I'm NOT an IRC user, and since I can't read Japanese and thus same concept as madoka is not useful, please correct any technical mistakes. On 20-Jul-05, 13:31 (CDT), Taku YASUI [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Who needs libcurl3? (was libcurl3-dev: A development package linked again gnutls needed)

2005-07-20 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 the mental interface of Marco d'Itri told: On Jul 20, sean finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] i know i'm repeating myself here, but the real fix is to politely solicit the upstream author to change or add a clause to their license that makes such allowances. that,

Scrolling the viewport

2005-07-20 Thread Thomas Hood
Am I the only one who finds it odd that holding the control key down and rolling the mouse wheel UP results in the font size getting SMALLER? Things work this way in Firefox, Galeon and IE, at least. Normally, rolling the wheel UP moves the viewport UP, and down down. Likewise I would expect

apt 0.6 downloads from second archive?

2005-07-20 Thread Graham Williams
Since installing apt 0.6 on an otherwise up-to-date unstable (except for anything depending on the aspell libraries...) packages on my local archive are being overlooked even though this archive is listed before others in my apt/sources.list. Downgrading to apt 0.5 and things work again as

GPG Key Signing

2005-07-20 Thread Allyn, MarkX A
Hello: Are there any Debian developers in the Portland, Oregon area? I need to have my GPG key signed in order to become a Debian developer. I found one person at Intel who had his key signed by a Debian developer. Can I have him sign it as his was already signed by a developer, or do I have

Re: Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:15:41AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Actually, although it's written in C++, AFAIK it only exports a C interface so the transition may not have been necessary. I only realized this yesterday though and I'm not entirely sure a

Re: GPG Key Signing

2005-07-20 Thread David Weinehall
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 02:14:10PM -0700, Allyn, MarkX A wrote: Hello: Are there any Debian developers in the Portland, Oregon area? I need to have my GPG key signed in order to become a Debian developer. I found one person at Intel who had his key signed by a Debian developer. Can I

GPG Key sign

2005-07-20 Thread mina fahmy
Hello:Are there any Debian developers in the Egypt, area?I need to have my GPG key signed in order to become a Debian developer. Aslo want to complete the new maintainer process with the guideofa developer Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:42:40PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 09:28:22AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:39:23PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: [Actually, although it's written in C++, AFAIK it only exports a C interface so the transition may

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Clément Stenac
Hello Maybe it would be worthwhile to have a weekend, similar to a bug squashing party, where all descriptions are proofread and for those that need it, a proposed new description filed as a wishlist bug? Given 15000 packages, and 20 volunteers, and on average two minutes per description

Reopening bug closed due to SPAM

2005-07-20 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
reopen 209891 thanks If spam e-mail is going to start closing our Bugs in the BTS then we should start thinking about implementing authentication checks in the BTS... like for example: do not allow control messages or -close messages with no attached (valid) GPG/PGP signatures (from a valid

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Steve Greenland
On 20-Jul-05, 15:18 (CDT), Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ke, 2005-07-20 kello 14:47 -0500, Steve Greenland kirjoitti: Given 15000 packages, and 20 volunteers, and on average two minutes per description (given that most descriptions probably only need little or no tweaking), this

Re: GPG Key Signing

2005-07-20 Thread Keith Packard
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 23:27 +0200, David Weinehall wrote: The only *listed* offers for Oregon are: OR, Bend: Nick Rusnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR, Medford: Sam Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I'm not familiar enough with US geography to know if that's close enough. Those are quite a ways from

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello Steve, On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 05:25:35PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: I think 2 min/pkg for *spotting* problems is reasonable, but not nearly enough for fixing them. Decent writing is non-trivial. Especially for cases like where some research is necessary to find out what the package

Re: GPG Key Signing

2005-07-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 02:14:10PM -0700, Allyn, MarkX A wrote: Are there any Debian developers in the Portland, Oregon area? Yep, plenty of us. I need to have my GPG key signed in order to become a Debian developer. I found one person at Intel who had his key signed by a Debian developer.

Bug#319287: ITP: ocaml-ssl -- OCaml bindings for the openssl library

2005-07-20 Thread Samuel Mimram
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Mimram [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: ocaml-ssl Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : Samuel Mimram [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://savonet.sourceforge.net/ * License : LGPL + exceptions Description : OCaml

Re: Reopening bug closed due to SPAM

2005-07-20 Thread Josh Metzler
On Wednesday 20 July 2005 06:31 pm, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: reopen 209891 thanks If spam e-mail is going to start closing our Bugs in the BTS then we should start thinking about implementing authentication checks in the BTS... like for example: do not allow control messages

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Jochen Voss
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 12:12:41AM +0100, Jochen Voss wrote: Especially for cases like where some research is necessary to find out what the package actually does. Some randomly chosen examples where the function of the package is not clear to me from reading the description: I looked

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: But however long it takes, some concerted effort should be able to improve things a lot. I would be interested to help with this. Just file bugs for the above descriptions, I do that also if i find a description to confusing. Since we have no central

Bug#78782: Urgent news about TV

2005-07-20 Thread Hilton J. Adriana, Jr
Good day to you, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you like watching cable T.V.? PPV : Sports, Movies, Adult Channels, HBO ,Cinemax, Starz, OnDemand, Ect. And the best part is you can have all these channels with our product! Our website : filtersppv.com If you don't want this anymore, add /r to the

Re: GPG Key sign

2005-07-20 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 14:42 -0700, mina fahmy wrote: Are there any Debian developers in the Egypt, area? Those two are returned when querying db.debian.org for people in Egypt: * Ayman Negm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Muhammad Hussain Yusuf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) You have to contact them directly to

Accepted codeville 0.1.13-1 (all source)

2005-07-20 Thread Michael Janssen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:37:32 -0500 Source: codeville Binary: codeville Architecture: source all Version: 0.1.13-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michael Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Michael Janssen [EMAIL

Accepted psad 1.4.2-1 (i386 source)

2005-07-20 Thread Daniel Gubser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:43:57 +0200 Source: psad Binary: psad Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.4.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Daniel Gubser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Daniel Gubser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted qt4-x11 4.0.0-2 (i386 source all)

2005-07-20 Thread Brian Nelson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:28:19 -0700 Source: qt4-x11 Binary: libqt4-sql libqt4-core qt4-doc libqt4-debug libqt4-designer libqt4-qt3support libqt4-dev qt4-dev-tools libqt4-gui Architecture: source i386 all Version: 4.0.0-2 Distribution:

Accepted foomatic-db-engine 3.0.2-20050720-1 (i386 source)

2005-07-20 Thread Chris Lawrence
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:14:02 -0500 Source: foomatic-db-engine Binary: foomatic-db-engine Architecture: source i386 Version: 3.0.2-20050720-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Chris Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed

Accepted foomatic-db 20050720-1 (all source)

2005-07-20 Thread Chris Lawrence
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:56:25 -0500 Source: foomatic-db Binary: foomatic-db Architecture: source all Version: 20050720-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Chris Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Chris Lawrence [EMAIL

Accepted foomatic-gui 0.7.4.16 (all source)

2005-07-20 Thread Chris Lawrence
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:00:15 -0500 Source: foomatic-gui Binary: python-foomatic foomatic-gui printconf Architecture: source all Version: 0.7.4.16 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Chris Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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