Re: Packages descriptions review

2005-07-31 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 08:30:51PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > They shouldn't be, as they're not supposed to be complete sentences > either (think of it as "package -- short description", as in "foo -- a > program to do something", or even "foo -- do something") Ye

Re: RFC: allow new upstream into stable when it's the only way to fix security issues.

2005-07-31 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 23:10 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > (3) allow new upstream into stable. > > But, how would be the proposed process for this software? > > I mean, should they also have some kind of grace period after uploading > to unstable? Would it enter stable after unstable? O

Re: ignoring upstream's version number?

2005-07-31 Thread Harald Dunkel
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: > > You can also add the epoch number to your own packages. Thus, they will > be always newer than those coming from Debian, so they won't be > upgraded. Of course you don't have to add epochs to upstream sources. > That is not the goal of an epoch. > Upstream prov

Re: NMUs wanted: C++ library packages in need of uploading

2005-07-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 07:45:39PM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > After some fiddling with AptPkg, my first cut at generating a list > of packages ready to be transitioned is attached. After getting fed up with AptPkg I rewrote the script in the attached form. If you feed the script t

Re: Bug#320672: ITP: leo -- English-German dictionary using dict.leo.org

2005-07-31 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > leo is a program for the command line which translates German words leo is a command-line program that translates... > into their English counterpart and vice versa using dict.leo.org. Suggestion: "Equivalent" instead of "counterpart." > This packages needs libnet-d

Re: Packages descriptions review

2005-07-31 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
OK, I've summarized all (I think) of Policy's requirements on packages in the wiki page, together with a cite to the section it came from. Also, I've completed "news", and would appreciate any feedback. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Re: about to remove libdb4.1

2005-07-31 Thread Takuo KITAME
2005-07-31 (日) の 22:34 +0200 に Ondrej Sury さんは書きました: > On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 15:32 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Hi, > > > > libdb4.1 should be removed from Debian soon. The following packages > > still use it (but could move forward to the more recent db4.2 or db4.3 > > package): > > > > libed

Re: RFC: allow new upstream into stable when it's the only way to fix security issues.

2005-07-31 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 23:10 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > (3) allow new upstream into stable. But, how would be the proposed process for this software? I mean, should they also have some kind of grace period after uploading to unstable? Would it enter stable after unstable? Or after testi

Re: congratulations to the X team!!

2005-07-31 Thread Miles Bader
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I ended up downgrading to xfree86 from testing, and then upgraded back up >> to xorg from unstable (and all that went smoothly). > > I was also using ubuntu's xorg on Sid, but unlike you I am still > unable to install xserver-xorg and xserver-comm

Re: please fix your RC bugs

2005-07-31 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > We can't keep the same ABI and toolchain forever, can we? Well, currently Solaris is doing bit advertisemet that they did not (never?) break compatibility. However since I am not into C++ ABI I cant comment if the current interface is ok or not. It is ju

Re: please fix your RC bugs

2005-07-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 08:22:26AM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > On Sunday 31 July 2005 00:19, Andreas Barth wrote: > > we currently have almost 800 RC bugs in etch due to small glitches that > > started to make code FTBFS with the new gcc version. > > It is urgently necessary that maintainer

Re: Bug#315945: seyon does not work when gnome-terminal is installed

2005-07-31 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ Forwarded to -devel for discussion ] On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:30:16PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 01:54:32PM +0200, Simon K?gstr?m wrote: >>Package: seyon >>Version: 2.20c-16 >>Severity: grave >>Justification: renders package unusable >> >>seyon does not work when gno

Bug#320716: ITP: lablgtksourceview -- OCaml bindings for GtkSourceView

2005-07-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: lablgtksourceview Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://helm.cs.unibo.it/software/lablgtksourceview/ * License : LGPL

Re: RFC: allow new upstream into stable when it's the only way to fix security issues.

2005-07-31 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
W. Borgert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (1) keep vulnerable packages in stable, >> (2) remove affected packages from distribution, >> (3) allow new upstream into stable. > I'ld "vote" for (2), maybe with the goal of creating pressure > towards upstream to take security more serious. But how do

Re: ignoring upstream's version number?

2005-07-31 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El dom, 31-07-2005 a las 22:20 +0200, Harald Dunkel escribió: > Philipp Kern wrote: > > > > The maintainer could use an epoch to fix it. (It's like a 1: prefix.) > > > > > >>2.5.130.CVS.2005.07.19.01-1 > >>2.5.13-0.CVS.2005.07.19.01-1 > > > > > > Is it really important to have the 0 sp

Re: RFC: allow new upstream into stable when it's the only way to fix security issues.

2005-07-31 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * W. Borgert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-31 23:24]: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 11:10:04PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > (1) keep vulnerable packages in stable, > > (2) remove affected packages from distribution, > > (3) allow new upstream into stable. > ... > > What do you think on th

Re: RFC: allow new upstream into stable when it's the only way to fix security issues.

2005-07-31 Thread W. Borgert
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 11:10:04PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > (1) keep vulnerable packages in stable, > (2) remove affected packages from distribution, > (3) allow new upstream into stable. ... > What do you think on this? I'ld "vote" for (2), maybe with the goal of creating pressure to

Re: about to remove libdb4.1

2005-07-31 Thread Ondrej Sury
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 15:32 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > Hi, > > libdb4.1 should be removed from Debian soon. The following packages > still use it (but could move forward to the more recent db4.2 or db4.3 > package): > > libedataserver1.2-4 > evolution-exchange > evolution-data-server1.2 > evol

Re: ignoring upstream's version number?

2005-07-31 Thread Harald Dunkel
Philipp Kern wrote: > > The maintainer could use an epoch to fix it. (It's like a 1: prefix.) > > >> 2.5.130.CVS.2005.07.19.01-1 >> 2.5.13-0.CVS.2005.07.19.01-1 > > > Is it really important to have the 0 split away? I think while dashes > are perfectly valid when there is a Debian re

Re: RFC: allow new upstream into stable when it's the only way to fix security issues.

2005-07-31 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi! Nikita V. Youshchenko [2005-07-31 23:10 +0400]: > So options seem to be: > > (1) keep vulnerable packages in stable, > (2) remove affected packages from distribution, > (3) allow new upstream into stable. We recently had the same problem in Ubuntu. Adam Conrad and me both spend literally wee

Re: RFC: allow new upstream into stable when it's the only way to fix security issues.

2005-07-31 Thread Otavio Salvador
"Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Maybe in rare cases like this one, when these seems to be no other way to > keep important package set secure, we should allow new upstream into > Debain Stable? In this rare cases I agree otherwise the users will continue to use vulnerable

Re: ignoring upstream's version number?

2005-07-31 Thread Philipp Kern
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 21:21 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > And how is this going to be fixed? The broken version > number might be much higher than upstream's version > number. AFAIK there is no way to turn it back, is it? The maintainer could use an epoch to fix it. (It's like a 1: prefix.) >

Re: ignoring upstream's version number?

2005-07-31 Thread Harald Dunkel
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: > El dom, 31-07-2005 a las 19:13 +0200, Harald Dunkel escribió: > >>Hi folks, >> >>What happens if a package maintainer ignores upstream's >>version number (either on purpose, or by accident, e.g. >>a typo)? Is this allowed? > > > If it is done on purpose and for

RFC: allow new upstream into stable when it's the only way to fix security issues.

2005-07-31 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Hello. As it is being currently discussed on debian-security [1], security team has hard times supporting mozilla family of packages, because of unfriendly upstream policy - they don't want to isolate security fixes from a large changesets of new upstream releases. And given the huge size of t

Re: ignoring upstream's version number?

2005-07-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 07:13:43PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > What happens if a package maintainer ignores upstream's > version number (either on purpose, or by accident, e.g. > a typo)? Is this allowed? It depends on the situation - for example, nis ignores the upstream version number complet

Re: please fix your RC bugs

2005-07-31 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 31 July 2005 08:22, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > I don't want to rant, but since you are urging NMUs and apparently doing > them yourself. Your recent NMU of cheeesetracker compiled it against two > C++ ABIs; you could avoided this if you read the bug report and my > response. Also, always

Periodic cleanup of old automake versions (aka, removal of automake1.6)

2005-07-31 Thread Eric Dorland
Hello, We now have 5 versions of automake in the archive. These are necessary because new versions of automake tend to break backwards compatibility. We don't however need to keep all these versions around forever. So I'd like to get automake1.6 removed from the archive. The packages below have st

Re: please fix your RC bugs

2005-07-31 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 7/31/05, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > I don't want to rant, but since you are urging NMUs and apparently doing > > them yourself. Your recent NMU of cheeesetracker compiled it against two > > C++ ABIs; you could avoided this if you re

Re: please fix your RC bugs

2005-07-31 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > I don't want to rant, but since you are urging NMUs and apparently doing > them yourself. Your recent NMU of cheeesetracker compiled it against two > C++ ABIs; you could avoided this if you read the bug report and my > response. Also, always contact th

Re: ignoring upstream's version number?

2005-07-31 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El dom, 31-07-2005 a las 19:13 +0200, Harald Dunkel escribió: > Hi folks, > > What happens if a package maintainer ignores upstream's > version number (either on purpose, or by accident, e.g. > a typo)? Is this allowed? If it is done on purpose and for a given reason, it can be perfectly valid.

ITP: pcmciautils -- PCMCIA userspace utilities (Linux 2.6.13+)

2005-07-31 Thread Per Olofsson
retitle 319583 ITP: pcmciautils -- PCMCIA userspace utilities (Linux 2.6.13+) thanks I'm the maintainer of pcmcia-cs so I'm intending to package pcmciautils. * Package name: pcmciautils Version : 007 Upstream Author : Dominik Brodowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http:

ignoring upstream's version number?

2005-07-31 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, What happens if a package maintainer ignores upstream's version number (either on purpose, or by accident, e.g. a typo)? Is this allowed? Regards Harri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Bug#320685: ITP: xfce4-sensors-plugin -- graphical hardware sensors display plugin for the Xfce4 panel

2005-07-31 Thread Stefan Ott
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefan Ott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xfce4-sensors-plugin Version : 0.6.1 Upstream Author : Fabian Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ * License : GPL Description : graphical

Re: Bug#320637: ITP: lltag -- Massive and magic command-line mp3/ogg file tagger

2005-07-31 Thread Brice Goglin
Ok, thanks for your comments. I've uploaded a new package to lltag webpage with the following description: Description: Automatic command-line mp3/ogg file tagger lltag is a command-line tool to set ID3 tags of mp3 files and Ogg tags. It may be used to tag multiples files at once by comparing th

Re: please fix your RC bugs

2005-07-31 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 31 July 2005 00:19, Andreas Barth wrote: > we currently have almost 800 RC bugs in etch due to small glitches that > started to make code FTBFS with the new gcc version. > > It is urgently necessary that maintainers start to fix their own > packages, and that whoever has some time at thei

about to remove libdb4.1

2005-07-31 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, libdb4.1 should be removed from Debian soon. The following packages still use it (but could move forward to the more recent db4.2 or db4.3 package): arla kerberos4kth-servers vacation libedataserver1.2-4 libroken16-kerberos4kth kerberos4kth-kdc libapache-mod-witch libotp0-kerberos4kth evolutio

Bug#320672: ITP: leo -- English-German dictionary using dict.leo.org

2005-07-31 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2005-07-31 Severity: wishlist * Package name: leo Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Carsten Luckmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~luckmann * License : GPL Description : English-German dict

Re: *.la dependency_libs and -dev deps

2005-07-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 12:55:51PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > I tried following the thread on libtool and -dev inter-dependencies, > and I'd like someone to confirm the way to go (a summary of the SUMMARY > thread would be nice :). > What I'm currently doing right now is adding -dev dependenc

Re: How to use svn(-buildpackage) with pbuilder?

2005-07-31 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 09:59:04AM +, W. Borgert wrote: > - How do I have to arrange the repository, so that better use arrangement which svn-buildpackage creates branches trunk tags upstream build-area and tarballs > under pkg-greetings/hello/tags/1.0-1/? Or do I have to put > the upstrea

*.la dependency_libs and -dev deps

2005-07-31 Thread Loïc Minier
Hi, I tried following the thread on libtool and -dev inter-dependencies, and I'd like someone to confirm the way to go (a summary of the SUMMARY thread would be nice :). What I'm currently doing right now is adding -dev dependencies on -dev packages for each "-l" in dependency_libs.

How to use svn(-buildpackage) with pbuilder?

2005-07-31 Thread W. Borgert
Hi, what is the right/best way to build packages from SVN using pbuilder? I am new to both, please be patient. Suppose, I have a package with complete upstream sources (no tarballs) under svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-greetings/hello/ with the subdirectories branches/, tags/, and trunk/. - How d

Re: Packages descriptions review

2005-07-31 Thread Clément Stenac
Hello, > You must update unreviewed description daily. Checked reviewed > descriptions again and show changes to the reviewer, if the review ist > not finished. Ok, did that. Thanks for your suggestions, -- Clément Stenac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "uns

Re: remove unwanted header lines from e-mails

2005-07-31 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:19:30AM +0200, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote: > I have thousands of emails in separate maildirs. I would like to > remove header lines from all of them that matches a pattern. AFAICR > I have already used something similar a long time ago, but now I > can not dig up anything.

Re: Packages descriptions review

2005-07-31 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 08:30:51PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > One more question: Was the question, should short descriptions be > capitalized? ever decided? They shouldn't be, as they're not supposed to be complete sentences either (think of it as "package -- short description", as in "foo

remove unwanted header lines from e-mails

2005-07-31 Thread Laszlo Boszormenyi
Hi, I have thousands of emails in separate maildirs. I would like to remove header lines from all of them that matches a pattern. AFAICR I have already used something similar a long time ago, but now I can not dig up anything. Is there any tool that can do this (C/C++ preferred, but Python/Perl i

Re: Packages descriptions review

2005-07-31 Thread Clément Stenac
Hello, > One more question: Was the question, should short descriptions be > capitalized? ever decided? The policy does not answer this specific question. Anyway, for such highly-repetitive and computer-detectable "errors", it's not a good idea to mark the description as wrong here, it would mak