also sprach W. Borgert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.20.0119 +0200]:
> At least that's not a contradiction in terms :-) No, I really
> did not think about chemistry, when I read acid-base.
I am sure the ACID guys did when they choise the name BASE. :)
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On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> I'm looking for someone who can upload my jack0.100.0 transition packages;
> care to sponsor?
Uploading right now...
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Hi,
Thanks for sponsoring.
> Same here. With two sponsors, I doubt you'll have much of a latency trouble
> with your uploads :-)
I'm looking for someone who can upload my jack0.100.0 transition packages;
care to sponsor?
They are available:
http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/tmp/20050820-jacktran
FATAL: kernel too old
make[3]: ***
[/build/buildd/glibc-2.3.5/debian/tmp-nptl/usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Algiers]
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On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 12:05:51AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach W. Borgert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.2049 +0200]:
> > > How about acid-base?
> >
> > This sounds less confusing than base-{,security-}engine. For
> > the latter I would assume an important security package of the
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 02:33:31PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> > also sprach Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.1422 +0200]:
> > > Compared to SVN from the view of somebody who is acquainted with CVS,
> > > arch sucks badly. I tend to agree wi
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.2140 +0200]:
> > The Berkeley DB storage backend was an enormously stupid thing, but
> > that's been fixed (phew). My main gripe with Subversion now is that
> > if I'm not mistaken (which I coul
also sprach W. Borgert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.2049 +0200]:
> > How about acid-base?
>
> This sounds less confusing than base-{,security-}engine. For
> the latter I would assume an important security package of the
> Debian base system or so.
And the next, or a related project, could be
also sprach Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.2146 +0200]:
> The list is somewhat outdated, and it doesn't reflect some things
> I've learnt since I wrote that pamphlet.
If I find the time, I will contribute my comments to help get the
page up to date. Feel free to prod me in a couple
also sprach Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.2140 +0200]:
> The Berkeley DB storage backend was an enormously stupid thing, but
> that's been fixed (phew). My main gripe with Subversion now is that
> if I'm not mistaken (which I could very well be, since I've switched
> to baz and only
Roland Mas wrote:
> The Berkeley DB storage backend was an enormously stupid thing, but
> that's been fixed (phew). My main gripe with Subversion now is that
> if I'm not mistaken (which I could very well be, since I've switched
> to baz and only use SVN for $HOME/bin/) you can't really do the
>
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Or just the example of RCS, which is probably the most to point.
Perhaps not. These days RCS isn't really used as a revision control
system but as a component in a variety of applications: some are related
to revision control, some are not (wiki engines
Roberto C. Sanchez, 2005-08-19 21:00:18 +0200 :
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 02:33:31PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
[...]
>> I won't go through the trouble to compile the extensive list of
>> problems and design issues with SVN.
> OK. Then please just name two or three.
If I may chime in...
T
* Marc Haber:
> Compared to SVN from the view of somebody who is acquainted with CVS,
> arch sucks badly. I tend to agree with most of the things that Florian
> Weimer lists on http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/arch/design-issues.html
The list is somewhat outdated, and it doesn't reflect some things
* Roberto C. Sanchez:
> There is a good reason that CVS development has stagnated. CVS is
> broken and there are better alternatives.
Some people say it's its rotten codebase. A rewrite from scratch
hasn't got this problem. The RCS-based file format isn't too bad and
optimizes for some common
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 04:24:35PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote:
> I don't like these reports. They should be available at the web only. Could
> anybody turn off the mailing? I would like to see the
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] only for really important messages.
Feel free to help get the RC bug count u
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Alec Berryman wrote:
> It has indeed. GNU CVS has a poor security record; OpenCVS plans not
> to.
Just like with OpenSSH? Sorry, could not resist..
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On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 02:33:31PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.1422 +0200]:
> > Compared to SVN from the view of somebody who is acquainted with CVS,
> > arch sucks badly. I tend to agree with most of the things that Florian
> > Weimer list
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 12:25:07AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> The following packages have been orphaned:
>mindterm (#323802), orphaned today
> Description: java ssh client that can be used as a web applet
>
Can we just have this removed? It is ancient (the new versions are
n
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 05:59:49PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.1747 +0200]:
> > I suggest base-security-engine, even though it's quite verbose and
> > the latter two words redundant after the acronym. `base-engine' is
> > better than just
Stefan Hornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> There is a really good reason to have telnet *client* on board, and that
> is accessing IMAP / SMTP etc. servers for testing purposes.
FWIW I do prefer gnutls-cli for that purpose, as it supports STARTTLS.
;-)
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Stefan Hornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I don't think "it's not a good revision control system" is a good
>> reason to refuse the package, for exactly the same reason that Debian
>> still packages a telnet client even though everyone really should b
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:39:49 -0700
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> Also notice that some of our services (web pages, documentation
> >> project) use CVS and will do so for a
* Luciano Bello wrote:
> I really think that OpenCVS must be part of Debian.
Agreed.
> And I will work in it, unless somebody has a
> *really_reasonable_objection*.
Go for it.
Norbert
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Le Ven 19 Août 2005 17:45, Jon Dowland a écrit :
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 04:24:35PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote:
> > I don't like these reports. They should be available at the web
> > only. Could anybody turn off the mailing? I would like to see the
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] only for really import
Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The WNPP messages was dropped. The RC report are the only messages generated
>> automatically and flooding debian-devel-announces list.
>
> So where would you like to go it to? /dev/null ?
Let's direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] to /dev/null. No more bugs.
Please remove me from "Call Wave" I have signed up for local Comcast
broadband, and no longer need this service.
Thank you,
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Also notice that some of our services (web pages, documentation
>> project) use CVS and will do so for a long time. Having a CVS server
>> available to switch to if a security issue in the c
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 05:46:19PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:40:30PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
>
> > Based on what I've seen in other threads, the order in which packages
> > get built on a buildd is a function of, among perhaps other factors,
> > its priority an
also sprach Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.1747 +0200]:
> I suggest base-security-engine, even though it's quite verbose and
> the latter two words redundant after the acronym. `base-engine' is
> better than just base, but similarly could be mistaken for something
> else important.
Ho
Hi Piotr,
On Friday, 19 Aug 2005, you wrote:
> On Friday 19 of August 2005 17:01, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> > Hi Piotr,
> >
> > On Friday, 19 Aug 2005, you wrote:
> > > I don't like these reports. They should be available at the web only.
> > > Could anybody turn off the mailing? I would like to
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 11:32:03AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [2005.08.19.1107 +0200]:
> > Package name: base
>
> I don't think this is an appropriate name. It is too easy to mix
> that up with the Debian base system, or
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 04:24:35PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote:
> I don't like these reports. They should be available at the web only.
> Could anybody turn off the mailing? I would like to see the
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] only for really important messages.
By contrast, I do, although I wouldn't obj
On Friday 19 of August 2005 17:01, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> Hi Piotr,
>
> On Friday, 19 Aug 2005, you wrote:
> > I don't like these reports. They should be available at the web only.
> > Could anybody turn off the mailing? I would like to see the
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] only for really important m
Alec Berryman writes:
> Michael Poole on 2005-08-19 10:32:27 -0400:
>
>> OpenCVS has not yet identified any specific problem (except the GPL)
>> that the project would address.
>
> It has indeed. GNU CVS has a poor security record; OpenCVS plans not
> to.
What part of "specific" was unclear? I
Hi Piotr,
On Friday, 19 Aug 2005, you wrote:
> I don't like these reports. They should be available at the web only. Could
> anybody turn off the mailing? I would like to see the
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] only for really important messages.
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Michael Poole on 2005-08-19 10:32:27 -0400:
> OpenCVS has not yet identified any specific problem (except the GPL)
> that the project would address.
It has indeed. GNU CVS has a poor security record; OpenCVS plans not
to.
It should be noted that OpenCVS has not been released, OpenBSD still
uses
I don't like these reports. They should be available at the web only. Could
anybody turn off the mailing? I would like to see the
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Luciano Bello writes:
> On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 11:41 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
>> So instead of preparing the package, I suggest investing the time to
>> migrate projects from CVS to SVN or bazaar instead.
>
> Beyond the description of the program (from the website), OpenCVS is
> simply another
On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 11:41 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> So instead of preparing the package, I suggest investing the time to
> migrate projects from CVS to SVN or bazaar instead.
Beyond the description of the program (from the website), OpenCVS is
simply another option at the time of implement
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 11:41:16AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> So instead of preparing the package, I suggest investing the time to
> migrate projects from CVS to SVN or bazaar instead.
I rather waste my limited time doing more useful things. Besides, you
can't compare the migration of a CVS p
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 10:38:00AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:53:44 +0200, Christian Perrier
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >And now welcome to the wonderful world of angry translators, where you
> >will find your stats approaching the 100% Nirvana without ever
> >reaching it
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 02:22:26PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> Compared to SVN from the view of somebody who is acquainted with CVS,
> arch sucks badly. I tend to agree with most of the things that Florian
> Weimer lists on http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/arch/design-issues.html
Note that it's over
also sprach Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.1422 +0200]:
> Compared to SVN from the view of somebody who is acquainted with CVS,
> arch sucks badly. I tend to agree with most of the things that Florian
> Weimer lists on http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/arch/design-issues.html
Looking over
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 02:33:31PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.1422 +0200]:
> > Compared to SVN from the view of somebody who is acquainted with CVS,
> > arch sucks badly. I tend to agree with most of the things that Florian
> > Weimer list
also sprach Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.1422 +0200]:
> Compared to SVN from the view of somebody who is acquainted with CVS,
> arch sucks badly. I tend to agree with most of the things that Florian
> Weimer lists on http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/arch/design-issues.html
I won't go t
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:06:49 +0200, "Steinar H. Gunderson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'd love to see people migrating to Arch
Compared to SVN from the view of somebody who is acquainted with CVS,
arch sucks badly. I tend to agree with most of the things that Florian
Weimer lists on http://www.en
Le Ven 19 Août 2005 11:36, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña a écrit :
> Also notice that some of our services (web pages, documentation
> project) use CVS and will do so for a long time. Having a CVS server
> available to switch to if a security issue in the current standard
> CVS server is found is
also sprach Steinar H. Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.1306 +0200]:
> a security-related perspective), but making a more secure CVS (if
> they really manage to do that) will probably be a _lot_ easier
... it's already been done, kind of: Subversion.
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 11:40:45AM +0200, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2005, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > > [1] http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po-debconf/pot
> > > [2] http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po-debconf/rank
> >
> > speacking of [2] and french :
> >
> > pt_BR 5745 (55%
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 11:41:16AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> So instead of preparing the package, I suggest investing the time to
> migrate projects from CVS to SVN or bazaar instead.
I'd love to see people migrating to Arch (and you get the added benefit of
GPG-signed commit, if you want to
* martin f krafft [Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:54:45 +0200]:
> I oppose to this ITP for the single reason that CVS should be faded
> out and its users starved and deprived and forced towards SVN and
> bazaar! Har har har!
I don't see opencvs failing to meet any of the requirements of Policy
2.2.1, or
* Steve Langasek [Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:46:19 -0700]:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:40:30PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
> > Based on what I've seen in other threads, the order in which packages
> > get built on a buildd is a function of, among perhaps other factors,
> > its priority and section. I
also sprach Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.1136
+0200]:
> Also notice that some of our services (web pages, documentation
> project) use CVS and will do so for a long time. Having a CVS
> server available to switch to if a security issue in the current
> standard CV
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:31:38PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > > most popular open source revision control software.
> >
> > And among the most horrible ones.
> >
> Agreed. Why anyone would bother to reimplement an already existing free
> tool is beyond me.
For several reasons, one bei
also sprach Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[2005.08.19.1107 +0200]:
> Package name: base
I don't think this is an appropriate name. It is too easy to mix
that up with the Debian base system, or base packages, or
base-config.
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Package name: base
Version : 1.1.4
Upstream Author : Kevin Johnson
and the BASE Development Team.
URL : http://secureideas.sourceforge.net/
License
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> also sprach Lars Bahner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.18.2346 +0200]:
>> Please CC: me as I am not on this list!
>
> Please consider setting Mail-Followup-To accordingly.
>
>> Upstream names the betas for 0.7.3.3 as 0.7.3.3.b1-b30 - as you no
>> doubt a
also sprach Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.0332 +0200]:
> > This is why we now have the ~ operator.
>
> Is that ready for use?
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/06/msg01482.html
AFAICT, this is still the case. So no. Not yet.
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