Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-25 Thread Matt Taggart
Horms writes... There are some architectures where 2.4 has been abandonded uptream, and these are being removed from the arcive powerpc (ok, thats one, not some) hppa is as well. It is still useful to have the 2.4 kernel-images in the archive since they are still more stable on some

Re: [PATCH] Simple parallellized boot sequence (and a plea for LSB complience)

2005-08-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Jon Dowland | On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:52:36AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | If you have an USB mouse, you need to have the driver for it loaded | before starting gdm (or the boot will fail), if it uses Xdmcp for | connecting to a terminal server, it will need networking to be up (and |

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Marc Chantreux
First of all, thank you all for your answers. i'll provide some documented, posix compliant, one piped patches as wishlist. Of course this would all be so much simpler if we could actually use the power of modern shells (post 1993) in init scripts - subprocesses wouldn't be required at

Re: Fun with the NEW queue

2005-08-25 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-08-25 01:34]: As you may have noticed, the beloved target of many flamewars, the NEW queue [1] has been reduced to an average of less than 10 packages. Packages are processed within days, sometimes even within hours. Thanks for the great work! You

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 11:39:13PM -0700, Matt Taggart wrote: There are some architectures where 2.4 has been abandonded uptream, and these are being removed from the arcive powerpc (ok, thats one, not some) hppa is as well. It is still useful to have the 2.4 kernel-images in the

Re: [PATCH] Simple parallellized boot sequence (and a plea for LSB complience)

2005-08-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 09:34:18AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Well, it was an example. Another example involving X would be if you use a font server. Other examples could be ppp, which on my system would have to wait until fcdsl is loaded, while on other systems might wait for setserial

Re: Fun with the NEW queue

2005-08-25 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Joerg Jaspert] You can find this list at http://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html in the future and that one will also be updated if we need to. Nice list. What about linking it in from URL:http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html? :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Andrew Porter
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 09:35 +0200, Marc Chantreux wrote: that is a point which surprise me : i understand the dash for a posix and lightweight attitude but why use bash as modern shell ? why not perl or zsh (which are both more powerfull) ? bash is actually pretty good if you know how to

Xvidcap, mplayer and rte (was Re: Fun with the NEW queue)

2005-08-25 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 01:32:40AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Hi As you may have noticed, the beloved target of many flamewars, the NEW queue [1] has been reduced to an average of less than 10 packages. Packages are processed within days, sometimes even within hours. Thank you for the

Re: Xvidcap, mplayer and rte (was Re: Fun with the NEW queue)

2005-08-25 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña] Either case they should be REJECTED with a proper reasoning as to why they have been rejected. And please add this information to the WNPP request, for the rest of us to see it. It is hard to fix the remaining issues if we need to track down a description of

Re: curl 7.14.0-5: OpenSSL vs GnuTLS is still a problem

2005-08-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 03:54:38PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 12:07:09PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 11:00:41AM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: with curl 7.14.0-5 currently in incoming, i added two new packages libcurl3-gnutls

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Marc Chantreux
Andrew Porter a écrit : bash is actually pretty good if you know how to use it (and most of the ksh93 comliant functions) - the problem is that most programmers don't. The ${} constructs add a lot of power and allow the programmer to be less reliant on external tools. zsh provides some things

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 25, Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So can we configure udev to stop managing /dev? This would remove my qualms Yes, as explained in README.Debian. It's not well tested, but it should work (at least in unstable). And another option is to make it use a different dev_root that

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-25 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 10:16:02PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: AFAIK the idea is to deprecate everything under /proc which is not strictly process-related information, but that transition will take many years (if ever completed, which I somewhat doubt). It would probably have been easier to

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Andrew Porter
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 10:41 +0200, Marc Chantreux wrote: at least, i think zsh is better because it's almost 200k thinner: % ls -sh =zsh4 =bash 616K /bin/bash 456K /bin/zsh4 I acutally use ksh for all my shell scripts (bash hasn't quite made it yet IMHO) and that beats both - 636K /bin/ksh

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 25, Horms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some architectures where 2.4 is required, its because of these that it seems that we are stuck with 2.4 for Etch. alpha (installer), m68k (2.6 only works on amiga), s390 (installer), mips, mipsel What does installer mean? IIRC SuSE

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-25 Thread Horms
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 12:43:14AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 11:39:13PM -0700, Matt Taggart wrote: There are some architectures where 2.4 has been abandonded uptream, and these are being removed from the arcive powerpc (ok, thats one, not some) hppa is

Re: Closing bugs in BTS

2005-08-25 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 12:25:08AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Moreover I wonder if when closing via mail should I write in Changelog sth like: this upload fixes bug number 1234567 in testing and unstable which has been closed via mail, and add tag sarge to bug that remain opened in

Re: Unnecessary Conflicts with imap-server packages

2005-08-25 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 8/25/05, Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerrit == Gerrit Pape [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gerrit /usr/share/doc/bincimap-run/README.Debian The Gerrit bincimap-run package provides the virtual package Gerrit ``imap-server'' and conflicts with other packages Gerrit providing

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 25 August 2005 10:45, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 25, Horms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some architectures where 2.4 is required, its because of these that it seems that we are stuck with 2.4 for Etch. alpha (installer), m68k (2.6 only works on amiga), s390

Re: Using buildds only

2005-08-25 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 8/25/05, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 8/23/05, Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 01:42:18 +0200, Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something like this is in fact considered. Probably Ubuntu won't

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Lars Wirzenius
to, 2005-08-25 kello 09:35 +0200, Marc Chantreux kirjoitti: that is a point which surprise me : i understand the dash for a posix and lightweight attitude but why use bash as modern shell ? why not perl or zsh (which are both more powerfull) ? I think it would be good for us to take pity on

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-25 Thread David Weinehall
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 11:14:53PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.08.24.2204 +0200]: So IMHO udev is more generic than hotplug. This is Unix, not monolithic-land. Also, udev was set out to do nothing other than device node management.

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 25, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: waldi there is no package to do the configuration This looks like something which can be easily fixed before the release. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-25 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 25, Horms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some architectures where 2.4 is required, its because of these that it seems that we are stuck with 2.4 for Etch. alpha (installer), m68k (2.6 only works on amiga), s390 (installer), mips, mipsel What does

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 25, Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All those popular mips WLAN devices use still 2.4 kernels, some people started to port some of them to 2.6, but the main hindrance are binary only (and thus 2.4 only) drivers. It's not like they are already supported by debian anyway, then. Is

making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Robert Lemmen
hi everyone, db.debian.org contains (optional) fields for the location of each developer, an information which currently is only used to generate edwards's fancy maps. there are other potential uses for this, like making it possible to find fellow debian developers at some place that you are

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 15:37 +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote: hi everyone, db.debian.org contains (optional) fields for the location of each developer, an information which currently is only used to generate edwards's fancy maps. there are other potential uses for this, like making it possible

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Robert Lemmen
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 02:50:51PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: You haven't explained why letting other DDs know this information, which is available to them already, requires the whole world to know it. If you have some proposals for letting non-DDs have the data, you need to explain what

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread W. Borgert
Quoting Robert Lemmen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. just make it public (after a warning period), anybody who doesn't want that can delete his information from the database. my preferred option! I don't like opt-out. Better opt-in: 4. Invent a new field public location info and developers

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Marc Chantreux wrote: that are not bugs so i wonder if package maintainers where pleased if i reportbug those lines as wishlist. Why would they be displeased? Anyway, just make triple sure to never use anything from /usr in a script that otherwise only needs / to work.

Re: curl 7.14.0-5: OpenSSL vs GnuTLS is still a problem

2005-08-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: The issue in the above is that the suggestion of two different versions of libcurl being a problem for prog A is only a problem if the sonames/sovers are not differentiated, and I suggest they _be_ differentiated. I mean, they That is not enough.

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Peter Palfrader wrote: mysqld_get_param () { /usr/sbin/mysqld --print-defaults | sed -ne s/^.*--$1=\\([^ ]\\+\\).*\$/\\1/p } And harder to read. Making scripts more complex and harder to read for Huh? Anyone that has problem with that sed expression

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Robert Lemmen
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:51:07PM +0200, W. Borgert wrote: I don't like opt-out. Better opt-in: 4. Invent a new field public location info and developers who care, could enter what they think is appropriate. I'm not sure, whether I would use the field. i fully agree that generally an

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Andrew Porter wrote: Both require knowledge of a particular tools - one only one tool though. Once you have that knowledge I would suggest that the single command version is easier to read (though I personally would use awk). awk is in /usr, and I recall I got problems

Question about recurrence in libmimedir

2005-08-25 Thread Martin Felis
Hello, I was wondering if the recurrence is implemented as there seems to be no parsing in mimedir/mimedir-vcomponent.c. Is there another way how I could set a RRULE in a vevent? bye, martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Mauro Calderara wrote: Aren't the init-scripts supposed to be posix-compilant? Often when No. They are not even supposed to be scripts at all, it is pretty ok to use binary initscripts (but most people don't, and it really helps for stuff like that to be easy to debug, and

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 16:01 +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 02:50:51PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: You haven't explained why letting other DDs know this information, which is available to them already, requires the whole world to know it. If you have some proposals

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Marc Chantreux wrote: that is a point which surprise me : i understand the dash for a posix and lightweight attitude but why use bash as modern shell ? why not perl or zsh (which are both more powerfull) ? Well, as long as you don't start using stuff that breaks often,

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 16:51 +0200, W. Borgert wrote: I don't like opt-out. Better opt-in: 4. Invent a new field public location info and developers who care, could enter what they think is appropriate. I'm not sure, whether I would use the field. Not just a single field, but a whole

Gaim TLS

2005-08-25 Thread Maykel Moya
I'd not been able to use Google talk with Gaim and telnetting talk.google.com:5222 works. I'm supposing it has something to do with TLS, In Gtalk developer's page says it's a must. I took a look over gaim source package and, at first glance, it includes support for NLS (./configure include it by

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 12:09:32PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: mysqld_get_param () { /usr/sbin/mysqld --print-defaults | sed -ne s/^.*--$1=\\([^ ]\\+\\).*\$/\\1/p } And harder to read. Making scripts more complex and harder to read for Huh? Anyone that has problem

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Robert Lemmen wrote: i fully agree that generally an opt-in system is better, but in this case it is far more complicated to implement, and it's not really Then forget it, and leave it private as it is right now. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: fluently. Are you saying that people who don't read the (IMHO rather arcane) sed regex syntax, having problems with such syntax, shouldn't touch I am saying that people who *can't* read the sed regex syntax, shouldn't touch Debian initscripts,

Bug#325020: ITP: haskell-fps -- Fast Packed Strings library for Haskell

2005-08-25 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: haskell-fps Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Donald Bruce Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~dons/fps.html * License : GPL Description : Fast

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Robert Lemmen
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 12:17:28PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: You're still describing the what and not the why. In your original proposal you talked about fellow Debian developers needing access for keysignings, drinks, etc. Well, fellow DDs can already do this. But why does the public

Re: Using buildds only

2005-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess this is all related to IO though? Why don't you extract the files to another place and then simply link/unlink them instead of tar/rm? Something might alter the files. That would only ward against some chroot corruptions and silently keep

Re: Gaim TLS

2005-08-25 Thread Nathan Poznick
Thus spake Maykel Moya: I'd not been able to use Google talk with Gaim and telnetting talk.google.com:5222 works. I'm supposing it has something to do with TLS, In Gtalk developer's page says it's a must. I took a look over gaim source package and, at first glance, it includes support

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 12:44:13PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: fluently. Are you saying that people who don't read the (IMHO rather arcane) sed regex syntax, having problems with such syntax, shouldn't touch I am saying that

Re: Using buildds only

2005-08-25 Thread Michael Spang
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 01:42:18 +0200, Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something like this is in fact considered. Probably Ubuntu won't use pbuilder itself since it is not the most efficient implementation around, but rebuilding the buildd chroots from scratch would help to eliminate many

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 17:57 +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote: there are two reasaons: - while debian developers might have access to it, it's in a form that makes it hard to access it, so i doubt that anyone will look up who is living at some place when he gets there. making this more

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-25 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Andreas Barth wrote: [snip] DEBIAN PACKAGE FROM REPOSITORY: 11 .rodata 000840cb 0021a180 0021a180 ... 21 .data 000233c0 003f1d60 003f1d60 ... MY OWN RECOMPILED DEBIAN PACKAGE: 11 .rodata 000a43ad 001f3180

Re: Using buildds only

2005-08-25 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi Michael! Michael Spang [2005-08-25 12:44 -0400]: Wouldn't those bugs just be indicative of an improperly packaged app or broken build system? I really don't see the point of using pbuilder to inefficiently work around a fixable problem. Sure, these packages should be fixed. However, at

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-25 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:47:17PM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: The immediate suspect is binutils, particularily ld. It might be interesting to do test compiles with an older binutils version (2.15 vs. 2.16?) and see if the problem is reproducible. The package in question was already build

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Robert Lemmen
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 01:52:16PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: If that's the case, we should improve developer access instead of backing your proposal. which is exactly what i am trying to do, it just make smore sense to also make it more accessible to non-dds Social networking systems exist

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-25 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 08:07:42PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:47:17PM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: The immediate suspect is binutils, particularily ld. It might be interesting to do test compiles with an older binutils version (2.15 vs. 2.16?) and see if the problem

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, sean finney wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 12:44:13PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: fluently. Are you saying that people who don't read the (IMHO rather arcane) sed regex syntax, having problems with

Bug#325043: ITP: nmzmail -- indexes and searches email in maildir folders

2005-08-25 Thread Kevin Coyner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kevin Coyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: nmzmail Version : 0.1.3 Upstream Author : Johannes Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/#nmzmail * License : GPL Description :

Re: Xvidcap, mplayer and rte (was Re: Fun with the NEW queue)

2005-08-25 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10392 March 1977, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: Note: Im speaking *for me*, not anyone else in the team! As you may have noticed, the beloved target of many flamewars, the NEW queue [1] has been reduced to an average of less than 10 packages. Packages are processed within days,

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-25 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, [full cite left for d-ds usage] * Stephane Chauveau ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050825 01:16]: I was profiling the memory usage of libgtk when discovered something very strange. As you may know, shared memory are usually mapped in 2 different memory segments. The first segment containing

Re: Using buildds only

2005-08-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 08:01:24PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: Michael Spang [2005-08-25 12:44 -0400]: If they're not fixable (I don't see how this could be) perhaps we need a Build-Conflicts field. Most probably not, since buildd chroots only install the required build-deps and

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread W. Borgert
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:39:08PM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote: anyway, i did get your point: you would very much wish for that information to stay non-public unless one explicitely makes it public. Yes, please. Cheers, WB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Jesus Climent
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:11:01PM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:51:07PM +0200, W. Borgert wrote: I don't like opt-out. Better opt-in: 4. Invent a new field public location info and developers who care, could enter what they think is appropriate. i fully

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:57:30PM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 12:17:28PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: You're still describing the what and not the why. In your original proposal you talked about fellow Debian developers needing access for keysignings, drinks, etc.

Re: Using buildds only

2005-08-25 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 8/25/05, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess this is all related to IO though? Why don't you extract the files to another place and then simply link/unlink them instead of tar/rm? Something might alter the files. That

Making .deb packages

2005-08-25 Thread jdgamble
I'm not sure if this is the right group to post to, but I am trying to learn how to make deb packages and I seem to go around in circles confusing myself. I am following this HowTo http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ and I keep getting errors from lintian and linda that I do not know how to

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-25 Thread Stephane Chauveau
Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:47:17PM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote: The immediate suspect is binutils, particularily ld. It might be interesting to do test compiles with an older binutils version (2.15 vs. 2.16?) and see if the problem is reproducible. The package in

Re: Making .deb packages

2005-08-25 Thread The Fungi
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 06:06:10PM -0400, jdgamble wrote: I'm not sure if this is the right group to post to, but I am trying to learn how to make deb packages and I seem to go around in circles confusing myself. [...] It is not. The debian-mentors list is devoted to this particular topic, so

Re: Making .deb packages

2005-08-25 Thread Michael Spang
jdgamble wrote: I'm not sure if this is the right group to post to, but I am trying to learn how to make deb packages and I seem to go around in circles confusing myself. I am following this HowTo http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ and I keep getting errors from lintian and linda that I do

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-25 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:21:07AM +0200, Stephane Chauveau wrote: I am not really surprised because I just compared the linker scripts from 2.15 and 2.16. They have a different section ordering and the official debian package clearly follows the 2.16 ordering. Also, there was no

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-25 Thread Stephane Chauveau
Thiemo Seufer wrote: Andreas Barth wrote: [snip] DEBIAN PACKAGE FROM REPOSITORY: 11 .rodata 000840cb 0021a180 0021a180 ... 21 .data 000233c0 003f1d60 003f1d60 ... MY OWN RECOMPILED DEBIAN PACKAGE: 11 .rodata 000a43ad

Re: Making .deb packages

2005-08-25 Thread jdgamble
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:50:06 +0200, The Fungi wrote: I am new to this whole thing of creating deb packages. I am trying to make a deb file from the source of http://gotmail.sf.net so that they can post it with their sf project files. [...] The gotmail application has already been packaged

Re: Making .deb packages

2005-08-25 Thread Bryan Donlan
On 8/25/05, jdgamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:50:06 +0200, The Fungi wrote: I am new to this whole thing of creating deb packages. I am trying to make a deb file from the source of http://gotmail.sf.net so that they can post it with their sf project files. [...]

Bug#325086: ITP: libsieve2 -- library for parsing, sorting and filtering e-mail

2005-08-25 Thread Jose Luis Tallon
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jose Luis Tallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libsieve2 Version : 2.1.7 Upstream Author : Aaron Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://libsieve.sourceforge.net/ * License : MIT(legacy code) and GNU LGPL

Re: vancouver revisited

2005-08-25 Thread Joey Hess
Riku Voipio wrote: I've tired using Debian on nfsroot/nbd on a Linksys wap54g. Unfortunatly I ran out of ram often, and swapping over nfs patches have disappeared into the time, while swapping over NBD gained some serious lockups.. An usb-slot seems to be necessary with current memory

Re: vancouver revisited

2005-08-25 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: Both completly automated installs as well as an install that is automated through initial dhcp and then uses the existing network-console stuff that was developed for s390 to let you ssh into the installer. Serial USB console is another possibility (d-i has the core support

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:11:01PM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote: i fully agree that generally an opt-in system is better, but in this case it is far more complicated to implement, and it's not really anything big that we are talking about here. if you want to hide where you are living from the

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Theodore Ts'o [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some people are not comfortable with having that kind of information easily available on the Internet. The default must be opt-in, or not at all. I understand why it must be optional, but I'm unclear why that means that the default must be opt-in. Can

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I understand why it must be optional, but I'm unclear why that means that the default must be opt-in. Can you explain? We are talking about Debian Developers, who are supposed to read their email. We can easily give people fair warning, and

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I understand why it must be optional, but I'm unclear why that means that the default must be opt-in. Can you explain? We are talking about Debian Developers, who are supposed to read their email. We can

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Robert Lemmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: db.debian.org contains (optional) fields for the location of each developer, an information which currently is only used to generate edwards's fancy maps. there are other potential uses for this, like making it possible to find fellow debian developers

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 22:12 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 05:11:01PM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote: i fully agree that generally an opt-in system is better, but in this case it is far more complicated to implement, and it's not really anything big that we are talking

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Why not simply hide it behind the password screen? the developer databasequery interface and details is hidden behind a password, already? Greetings Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: removing /etc/hotplug.d/ support

2005-08-25 Thread Horms
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 03:55:03PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: On Aug 25, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: waldi there is no package to do the configuration This looks like something which can be easily fixed before the release. I don't

Re: making developer location from ldap public?

2005-08-25 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Why not simply hide it behind the password screen? the developer databasequery interface and details is hidden behind a password, already? Right, so whatever new thing he wants, if that's what he wants, can be

Accepted matchit 1.0-2-1 (source all)

2005-08-25 Thread Chris Lawrence
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:26:04 -0400 Source: matchit Binary: r-other-gking-matchit r-cran-matchit Architecture: source all Version: 1.0-2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Chris Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Chris

Accepted zelig 2.4-1-1 (source all)

2005-08-25 Thread Chris Lawrence
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:18:51 -0400 Source: zelig Binary: r-other-gking-zelig r-cran-zelig Architecture: source all Version: 2.4-1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Chris Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Chris

Accepted maelstrom 1.4.3-L3.0.6-5 (source i386)

2005-08-25 Thread Christoph Baumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:22:49 +0200 Source: maelstrom Binary: maelstrom Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.4.3-L3.0.6-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Christoph Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Christoph Baumann

Accepted gvr 1.3.1-5 (source all)

2005-08-25 Thread Sergio Talens-Oliag
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:55:01 +0200 Source: gvr Binary: gvr Architecture: source all Version: 1.3.1-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Sergio Talens-Oliag [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Sergio Talens-Oliag [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted libgwenhywfar 1.18.0-1 (source all i386)

2005-08-25 Thread Thomas Viehmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:52:54 +0200 Source: libgwenhywfar Binary: libgwenhywfar17c2 libgwenhywfar-doc libgwenhywfar17-dev libgwenhywfar-data Architecture: source all i386 Version: 1.18.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer:

Accepted mlton 20050825-1 (source i386)

2005-08-25 Thread Stephen Weeks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 06:14:06 -0700 Source: mlton Binary: mlton Architecture: source i386 Version: 20050825-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Stephen Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Stephen Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted libpam-ldap 178-1sarge1 (source hppa)

2005-08-25 Thread Martin Schulze
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:39:14 +0200 Source: libpam-ldap Binary: libpam-ldap Architecture: source hppa Version: 178-1sarge1 Distribution: stable-security Urgency: high Maintainer: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Martin

Accepted base-files 3.1.7 (source powerpc)

2005-08-25 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:16:08 +0200 Source: base-files Binary: base-files Architecture: source powerpc Version: 3.1.7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Santiago Vila [EMAIL

Accepted bins 1.1.29-1 (source all)

2005-08-25 Thread Martin Michlmayr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 19:45:44 +0100 Source: bins Binary: bins Architecture: source all Version: 1.1.29-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ludovic Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted spong 2.7.7-11 (source all)

2005-08-25 Thread Clément Stenac
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:27:19 +0200 Source: spong Binary: spong-server spong-client spong-www spong-common Architecture: source all Version: 2.7.7-11 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Clément Stenac [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted sooperlooper 1.0.5-5 (source i386)

2005-08-25 Thread Debian/GNU
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:34:06 +0200 Source: sooperlooper Binary: sooperlooper Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.0.5-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guenter Geiger (Debian/GNU) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Guenter

Accepted snort 2.3.2-6 (source i386 all)

2005-08-25 Thread Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:59:29 +0200 Source: snort Binary: snort-mysql snort-doc snort-rules-default snort-common snort-pgsql snort Architecture: source i386 all Version: 2.3.2-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Javier

Accepted worlded 0.1.3-6 (source i386)

2005-08-25 Thread Duck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 02:53:38 +0200 Source: worlded Binary: worlded Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.1.3-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Marc Dequènes (Duck) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Marc Dequènes (Duck)

Accepted zsh 4.2.5-17 (source all)

2005-08-25 Thread Clint Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:48:31 -0400 Source: zsh Binary: zsh zsh-static zsh-doc Architecture: source all Version: 4.2.5-17 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Clint Adams [EMAIL

Accepted tramp 1:2.0.50-3 (source all)

2005-08-25 Thread Romain Francoise
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:55:00 +0200 Source: tramp Binary: tramp Architecture: source all Version: 1:2.0.50-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Romain Francoise [EMAIL

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