Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-19 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Jérôme Warnier] > After the last update of OOo in Sid (aka Unstable), I wonder if it is > generally considered acceptable to keep obsolete packages in > experimental (currently, Sid has 2.0.1-2 and Experimental 2.0.1-1). Hmmm, I thought experimental was garbage-collected automatically in this ca

Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-19 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 12:35:45PM +0100, Jérôme Warnier wrote: > After the last update of OOo in Sid (aka Unstable), I wonder if it is > generally considered acceptable to keep obsolete packages in > experimental (currently, Sid has 2.0.1-2 and Experimental 2.0.1-1). > > If not, is there a way to

Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-19 Thread Jérôme Warnier
After the last update of OOo in Sid (aka Unstable), I wonder if it is generally considered acceptable to keep obsolete packages in experimental (currently, Sid has 2.0.1-2 and Experimental 2.0.1-1). If not, is there a way to remove packages from Experimental? Regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-19 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 09:56:59PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 12:12:07PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > * allowing us to easily use python (as well as C, C++ and perl) for > > programs > > in the base system > > * allowing us to provide python early on installs

Re: Andrew Suffield

2006-01-19 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 20:44 +, Dallam Wych wrote: > On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 05:09:03PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 06:28 -0500, sean finney wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 11:58:51AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > > > Do you think your constant bitching is fu

Re: udev naming problems for eth*

2006-01-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 19, Davide Natalini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > udev now can rename the interfaces, because they haven't a name yet. udev still loads the modules, you just have been lucky. This is not a solution in any way. > furthermore this (or something similar) could be useful if we need some > modu

Re: udev naming problems for eth*

2006-01-19 Thread Davide Natalini
Md wrote: This reminds me that there should be a list of modules which MUST NOT be added to the initramfs because loading them too early is both useless and as in this case actively harmful. I'm testing this solution: I added a blacklist file in /etc/mkinitramfs/, put "blacklist net-module" lin

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-19 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Eric Dorland] > This has probably been covered ad nauseum, but where do we stand in > respect to getting mplayer in Debian? [Nathanael Nerode] > IIRC, the copyright issues were carefully worked out and solved > after several years, finally reaching the approval of debian-legal. > At which point

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:36:13PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 12:12 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Some reasons: > > > > * compatability with Ubuntu -- so that packages can be easily ported back > > and forth between us and them; I expect most of the work ubuntu mig

Re: Bug#348728: ITP: php-net-imap -- PHP PEAR module implementing IMAP protocol

2006-01-19 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mer 18 Janvier 2006 20:58, Steffen Joeris a écrit : > > You should be aware that per the current REJECT_FAQ [1] > > your package will be automatically rejected because it uses the PHP > > License. Several weeks ago I emailed the FTP Masters[2], requesting > > that they accept the PHP Licence for

Re: The klik project and Debian

2006-01-19 Thread Isaac Clerencia
On Thursday 19 January 2006 09:57, Romain Beauxis wrote: > My own feeling about it is that the author is not very honnest with the > debian packaging work. From klik.atekon.de: "Thanks to debian for the software compilation and packaging." > Hum... It allows non permanent installation which can b

Re: The klik project and Debian

2006-01-19 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le Jeudi 19 Janvier 2006 09:57, Romain Beauxis a écrit : > No where in his web page is written that in fact klik is a refactoring of > actual debian packages. Ok I was wrong it is written in small at the end: "Thanks to debian for the software compilation and packaging." Romain -- Satan is an e

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-19 Thread Christian Perrier
> It is the great danger of this thread that Matt et al. will feel > sufficiently put upon that they *don't* take to heart the legitimate > suggestions that could improve cooperation between Debian and Ubuntu (and > "distinguishing version numbers for binaries" being by far the least of > these).

Re: Debian derivatives and the Maintainer: field (again)

2006-01-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 08:57:51PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > I don't agree. This isn't even the case within Debian. Binary-only NMUs >> > don't modify the source package, even though the bin

Re: The klik project and Debian

2006-01-19 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le Jeudi 19 Janvier 2006 08:48, Peter Samuelson a écrit : > For those following along at home, it seems klik is some sort of > gateway to install Debian packages on various non-Debian distributions. > I imagine it's an ftp frontend to alien. Well.. In fact, it is a scripted version of apt that ca

Re: Size matters. Debian binary package stats

2006-01-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Spare disk space isn't available to add amd64 to mirrors. >> Spare bandwith isn't available to add amd64 to mirrors. > > I see. Can we please have the numbers? Exactly how much disk space > is

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-19 Thread Miles Bader
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do you really think users who fail to notice an "Origin" tag from > apt-cache, and believe they're above using reportbug, will notice an > "-ubuntuN" suffix in the version number? Actually it seems fairly likely that they would -- version numbers are

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 02:21:06AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > [Thomas Bushnell BSG] > > Since you don't do bin-NMU's, you could simply alter the version of > > every package to add an "ubuntu" tag, and then be done with it, > > right? That would work well and be very easy to implement. > Yo

Re: [ad-hominem construct deleted]

2006-01-19 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 10:26:05AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 10:01 +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > * Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-17 11:36]: > > > Kennedy wasn't a citizen of Berlin, either, not literally. T

Re: The klik project and Debian

2006-01-19 Thread Frank Küster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There seems to be a fairly good amount of Debian Sarge packages > available via http://klik.atekon.de/. However, most of them are having > unmaintained recipes and therefore some of them do not work > properly. I think it would be an easy task for Debian maintainers to >

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-19 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On 1/19/06, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > you could check changelogs.ubuntu.com which holds changelog and > > copyright files of the packages. > Hi Reinhard, > are the changelogs on changelogs.ubuntu.com only from stable releases or > do they include testing/dapper? Also, I was checking

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-19 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Thomas Bushnell BSG] > Since you don't do bin-NMU's, you could simply alter the version of > every package to add an "ubuntu" tag, and then be done with it, > right? That would work well and be very easy to implement. You are so hung up on this point, it's not even funny. Do you really think u

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-19 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 03:47:15PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On 1/17/06, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As it is, to me, Ubuntu is just a group of people, some of which might > > have names[1]. I find it hard to work with such a

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