Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:03:13 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 07:56:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> OK, I see I have to dot the i's and cross the t's for this case >> here. So, here is the scenario: package python-foo packages a >> public pure pyth

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-13 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
"Matthew R. Dempsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 10:21:50AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >> We don't allow multiple mtas because a mail-transport-agent is >> *required* to provide /usr/sbin/sendmail. > > Why can Debian's alternatives system not alleviate this conflict? I

Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-13 Thread Marco Bertorello
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:08:19 +0200 Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 06:35:42PM +0200, Marco Bertorello > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: Marco Bertorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > * Package name: furl > >

Re: WTF ? (Fwd: Your message to Yaird-devel awaits moderator approval)

2006-08-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Simon Huggins: > On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 02:10:04PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: >> maintainer addresses HAVE to accept bug reports and mails from >> non-subscribers. This setting is not correct, please fix it asap. > > If messages do indeed get through to the list why is this a problem? You

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Thomas Bushnell: >> As a countermeasure, the FSF tries to extend copyright to interfaces, >> so that you do create a derivative work merely by programming to a >> specific interface of a library written by someone else, without >> copying their code. I'm not sure if this is such a bright idea.

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, [UTF-8] Linas Žvirblis wrote: maybe not with a so nice UI than vmware, but that is definitely writeable IMHO. That is being worked on as I type this. OT, but does anybody know whether I can operate on VMs in VMware without this fancy UI? I just want to turn on two VMs on

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 07:56:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > OK, I see I have to dot the i's and cross the t's for this > case here. So, here is the scenario: package python-foo packages a > public pure python module. Package bar imports the module > foo. Package baz is a packa

Bug#382898: ITP: tptest-gui -- A graphical front-end to TPTEST3

2006-08-13 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: tptest-gui Version : 0.4.1 Upstream Author : Michael Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.datanom.net/tptest * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Descri

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-13 Thread John Goerzen
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 09:45:02PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > Em Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:26:51 -0500 > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > > > To say that any library fixing security problems will require a reboot > > is outrageous. It is quite possible to restart any impacted ser

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:21:07 +1000, Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, 2006-08-13 at 19:56 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Here there are two cases. Either module foo can't be written at all >> for version 2.6, or it the same functionality can be provided with > This is a littl

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:37:15 +0200, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Le dim 13 août 2006 22:17, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : >>       As to the BOF thing, I'll bite: Why one earth did the bof >> come  up with design decisiosn that require  every single goldarned >> python  module package

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2006-08-13 at 19:56 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >Here there are two cases. Either module foo can't be written at all >for version 2.6, or it the same functionality can be provided with This is a little simplistic. The parser changes fairly routinely in python versions. This me

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, OK, I see I have to dot the i's and cross the t's for this case here. So, here is the scenario: package python-foo packages a public pure python module. Package bar imports the module foo. Package baz is a package not yet written that would be written for Python2.6 that would als

Re: Debian Installer etch beta 3 released

2006-08-13 Thread Sven Mueller
Joey Hess wrote: > Sven Mueller wrote: >> My reason for this: I expect that I'm not the only one who doesn't like >> jigdo much and hope that torrents would give the installer betas a wider >> audience (even if not much wider). > > Official torrents are linked to from > http://www.debian.org/devel

Status of typo3

2006-08-13 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Hi, Grave bug #364351 was filed in December, and it has seen basically no activity since April. The new upstream version, 4.0, seems to have fixed the reported problems. I am Cc:ing this mail to debian-devel to ping the public for their opinions... Last upload by the maintainer Christian Leutlof

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le dim 13 août 2006 22:17, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : >       As to the BOF thing, I'll bite: Why one earth did the bof come >  up with design decisiosn that require  every single goldarned python >  module package to be reuploaded every time a new version of python > is added or removed? actuall

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 13, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you aren't running windows then xen is your free alternative. If > you need windows then you need a recent cpu for xen+windows. I always love when somebody knows what I need... -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital sig

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:28:43 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 03:32:27AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 00:01:37 -0700, Steve Langasek >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 12:10:07PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrot

Re: Is inability to operate with root read-only (and separate /etc, /dev, etc) a bug or design decision?

2006-08-13 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hello Peter, Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Goswin von Brederlow] >> Instead move the things in etc that need writing to other places: >> >> 1) link /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts and create a dummy /proc/mounts on / >>for when /proc isn't mounted (works with quota in current kern

Re: Debian Installer etch beta 3 released

2006-08-13 Thread Joey Hess
Sven Mueller wrote: > My reason for this: I expect that I'm not the only one who doesn't like > jigdo much and hope that torrents would give the installer betas a wider > audience (even if not much wider). Official torrents are linked to from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ -- see

Re: Debian Installer etch beta 3 released

2006-08-13 Thread Sven Mueller
Frans Pop wrote: > The Debian Installer team is proud to announce the third beta release > of the installer for Debian GNU/Linux Etch. For what it's worth, I created a .torrent file for the first i386 DVD of the set. If anyone is interested, I'm currently seeding with two machines at a max total o

Re: Bug#382796: ITP: python-alsaaudio -- Alsa bindings for Python

2006-08-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.14.1917 +0100]: > does that imply that an ITP is not checked against the current available > packages? Should there be a check? The package was hardly current by the time the ITP was filed. In fact, I did not check whether it was simply a huge ma

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 12:28:15PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Why do you insist on programming bugs into cdrtools that linux > > >> di

Re: Bug#382796: ITP: python-alsaaudio -- Alsa bindings for Python

2006-08-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 03:02:22PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Paul Brossier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.1418 +0100]: > > * Package name: python-alsaaudio > > Sweet. An ITP for a package already in unstable... > does that imply that an ITP is not checked against the curren

Re: WTF ? (Fwd: Your message to Yaird-devel awaits moderator approval)

2006-08-13 Thread Simon Huggins
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 02:10:04PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > maintainer addresses HAVE to accept bug reports and mails from > non-subscribers. This setting is not correct, please fix it asap. If messages do indeed get through to the list why is this a problem? -- --( "Everybody,

Bug#382847: ITP: libwww-mediawiki-client-perl -- Command line Mediawiki client

2006-08-13 Thread Sandro Tosi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sandro Tosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libwww-mediawiki-client-perl Version : 0.31 Upstream Author : Mark Jaroski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~markj/WWW-Mediawiki-Client-0.31/ * License : Pe

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 03:32:27AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 00:01:37 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 12:10:07PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> >> 3.1.3. Provides > >> >> Packages with public modules and extensions shoul

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> Why do you insist on programming bugs into cdrtools that linux >> >> distributions have

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-13 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:31:50 +0200 Michal Politowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:29:13 -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > [...] > > a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and > > to avoid messing with translations, the messages have Ubuntu > >

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-13 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:38:20 +0200 "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > > update-notifier is a program made by the Ubuntu guys which puts a > > notification icon in the notification area and warns the user a

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sunday 13 August 2006 02:25, Pierre Habouzit wrote: >> Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : >> > Dear all, >> > >> > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official >> > repository, nor any way of creating them.

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Sebastian Harl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.1658 +0100]: > There is vim available from Debian repositories as well as emacs. Yes, but emacs will be removed. (this is a reply-to experiment) -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. kr

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Sebastian Harl
Hi, > > vmware > > QEMU: I really don't get this (type of) discussion... Some people prefer qemu, some others vmware, still others prefer foo. There is vim available from Debian repositories as well as emacs. You can install KDE as well as Gnome, fvwm, ... why not provide qemu as well as bochs

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
Peter Collingbourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official > repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create > a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server > and vmware-modules-source packages based on

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Pierre Habouzit wrote: > maybe not with a so nice UI than vmware, but that is definitely > writeable IMHO. That is being worked on as I type this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#382796: ITP: python-alsaaudio -- Alsa bindings for Python

2006-08-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.1505 +0100]: > > > * Package name: python-alsaaudio > > > > Sweet. An ITP for a package already in unstable... > > well I must be blind or sth, but apt-cache search python alsa answer > nothing for me ... lapse:~> apt-cache policy p

Re: Bug#382796: ITP: python-alsaaudio -- Alsa bindings for Python

2006-08-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le dim 13 août 2006 16:02, martin f krafft a écrit : > also sprach Paul Brossier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.1418 +0100]: > > * Package name: python-alsaaudio > > Sweet. An ITP for a package already in unstable... well I must be blind or sth, but apt-cache search python alsa answer nothin

Re: Bug#382796: ITP: python-alsaaudio -- Alsa bindings for Python

2006-08-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Paul Brossier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.1418 +0100]: > * Package name: python-alsaaudio Sweet. An ITP for a package already in unstable... -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud De

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le dim 13 août 2006 15:24, Adrian von Bidder a écrit : > On Sunday 13 August 2006 02:25, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official > > > repository, nor any way of cre

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Adrian von Bidder wrote: > vmware QEMU: > * is quite fast Quite fast with the accelerator module. There is also full virtualization mode, that can be used with certain operating systems. > * does suspend/resume quite beautifully It can save memory state and load it later on startup. > * t

Bug#382796: ITP: python-alsaaudio -- Alsa bindings for Python

2006-08-13 Thread Paul Brossier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Brossier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: python-alsaaudio Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Casper Wilstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.example.org/ * License : Python Software Foundation License Progra

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-13 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:29:13PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > update-notifier is a program made by the Ubuntu guys which puts a > notification icon in the notification area and warns the user about > updates being available, and allowing them to run update-manager (a > simple upgrade man

Re: New desktop features provided by new version of update-notifier

2006-08-13 Thread Michal Politowski
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:29:13 -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: [...] > a Ubuntu CD; I patched the program to also look for Debian CDs, and to > avoid messing with translations, the messages have Ubuntu replaced by > Debian in runtime, after the translation is got from gettext if the CD > that was

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Sunday 13 August 2006 02:25, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit : > > Dear all, > > > > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official > > repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create > > a tool that will build (f

WTF ? (Fwd: Your message to Yaird-devel awaits moderator approval)

2006-08-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
maintainer addresses HAVE to accept bug reports and mails from non-subscribers. This setting is not correct, please fix it asap. -- Message transmis -- Subject: Your message to Yaird-devel awaits moderator approval Date: dim 13 août 2006 13:45 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-13 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Joerg Schilling [Sun, Aug 13 2006, 12:28:15PM]: > The original sources do not have such bugs and many Debian users that Most of that is true if and only if the users follow your recommendations and strictly use kernel 2.4.x, ide-scsi emulation and install your programs as suid-root.

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.1236 +0200]: > I know that QEMU Accelerator is not distributable, but providing a sort > of an installer (or even asking an author for a permission to > distribute) should not be any harder than providing an installer for > VMware. Both nee

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Why do you insist on programming bugs into cdrtools that linux > >> distributions have to fix by patching? > > > > You should inform yourself

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Francesco Pedrini
Alle Sunday 13 August 2006 04:06, Goswin von Brederlow ha scritto: > What you mean is vserver and even more so xen. I hear with the latest > versions you can even run windows in xen. You can do that only if your CPU is enabled with VT/Pacifica virtualization technology. Regards, Francesco --

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Loïc Minier wrote: > Would be nice if we could go as far as shipping binary packages for > e.g. vmware-player, as Ubuntu does: Oh come one guys. So instead of providing QEMU + QEMU Acclerator, a partially free solution, we just go for totally non-free one? VMware was not an option when there actu

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006, Peter Collingbourne wrote: > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official > repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create > a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server > and vmware-modules-source packages based on

Re: Buildds still not picking up new architectures, why?

2006-08-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 11:08:10AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 04:38:20PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > So there is ONE w-b for {i386,ppc,...) and there is one buildd for each > > arch that connects to that ONE w-b? > > No. There is one system where wanna-build databases

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:57:52 -0600, Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat August 12 2006 09:34, Matthias Klose wrote: First time I've > seen the design goals laid out like this. Thanks, and sorry if this > is out of place. >> No, not the whole design goal. Although the document is title

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 00:01:37 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 12:10:07PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> 3.1.3. Provides >> >> >> >> Packages with public modules and extensions should be named, or >> >> should provide, python-foo. Pure Python public

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Peter Collingbourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.0106 +0100]: > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official > repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to > create a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) > vmware-server and vmware-modu

Re: VMware packaging

2006-08-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.13.0125 +0100]: > > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official > > repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create > > a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server) vmware-server > > and vmware-

Re: dh_python and python policy analysis

2006-08-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 12:10:07PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> 3.1.3. Provides > >> > >> Packages with public modules and extensions should be named, or > >> should provide, python-foo. Pure Python public modules that support > >> all Python versions need not have a Provides field. > > .