Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 23 Nov 2006 22:40:01 +0200, Jari Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
My point. If there is explicit Depends: bash, then someone can post
a patch to provide alternative solution to a person who may not know
alternative constructs (having learned only
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Rafael Laboissiere [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: xmds
Version : 1.5-3
Upstream Author : Paul Cochrane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Joseph Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peter Drummond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 10:02:14AM +0200, Jari Aalto wrote:
Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 23 Nov 2006 22:40:01 +0200, Jari Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
My point. If there is explicit Depends: bash, then someone can post
a patch to provide alternative solution to a person
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 09:51:37AM +0200, Jari Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And this is only possible if scripts use
/bin/sh
The /bin/sh could be any valid shell that provided the standard set
of features.
The installation system (Essential) which sets /bin/sh to point to
[Thomas Bushnell]
I'm interested in why we should care at all. Perl is a far bigger space
hog than bash.
Debian Edu had to switch /bin/sh from bash to dash to get shutdown to
umount /usr/ when we use libnss-ldap (bug #159771). Bash loads user
information using nss when it starts, and thus
Hi all,
a new hylafax version is going to be released in the next few weeks. I
have therefore uploaded a new version 4.3.1~rc3-1 to experimental, since
I don't want to mess with the current version in etch, 4.3.0-9.
Please test the new version, so that we may understand if 4.3.1 is ready
to be
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Salokine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: tremulous-mappack
Version : 0.1
Upstream Author : Salokine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.bricosoft.com
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: GtkRadiant (1.5.0), Q3Map
On Saturday 25 November 2006 00:50, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 11:52:36PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
I *guess* that Debian has a much higher percentage of downloads through
mirrors where we don't have the log files compared to FC, so this
obviously doesn't change
DEAR SIR,
Cobifac Fashion is a group of several points of sale and distributorship in
Morocco.
The company work also in beauty and health care products and ladies accessories.
Our company have several store, each store present a range of Products.
We search manufacturer to present their items
This one time, at band camp, Jari Aalto said:
Depends: make dependency visible, whereas filing a wishlist is
usually result of someone by accident finding the script to include
bashism. He may offer a patch to convert those constructs to standard
sh-way-of-doing-things.
It's easier to
Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 09:51:37AM +0200, Jari Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
And this is only possible if scripts use
/bin/sh
The /bin/sh could be any valid shell that provided the standard set
of features.
The installation system
Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This one time, at band camp, Jari Aalto said:
Depends: make dependency visible, whereas filing a wishlist is
usually result of someone by accident finding the script to include
bashism. He may offer a patch to convert those constructs to standard
Greetings,
I am Barr. Robert C. Page. I am reaching you to handle an investment
portfolio.
I am reaching you to assist in repatriating the funds and property left
behind by my late client before it will be confiscated by government
and declared unserviceable by the bank where the huge
This one time, at band camp, Jari Aalto said:
Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This one time, at band camp, Jari Aalto said:
Depends: make dependency visible, whereas filing a wishlist is
usually result of someone by accident finding the script to include
bashism. He may offer
Am 2006-11-22 20:52:07, schrieb Oleg Verych:
On 2006-11-22, Michelle Konzack wrote:
${parameter:offset}
${parameter:offset:length}
Here you know what and where parameter has. Is it better to split it?
echo ${parameter} |cut -c N-
and
echo ${parameter} |cut -c Nx-Ny
Am 2006-11-25 00:02:34, schrieb Jari Aalto:
PII with 62-128M, fairly common.
ACK
For example my IBM TP570 (PII/366MHz/192MB)
is happy with /bin/bash and fast enough.
fast enought is in the eye of a beholder. Try with PII/64M with
X deskop with 20 sessions of bash open. And opening
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On 11/25/06 00:46, Greg Folkert wrote:
On Fri, 2006-11-24 at 13:12 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 11/24/06 11:54, Jon Dowland wrote:
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 08:25:27AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 11/24/06 06:06, Jon Dowland wrote:
[snip]
Ron,
On 11/25/06 06:06:09PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
Am 2006-11-25 00:02:34, schrieb Jari Aalto:
PII with 62-128M, fairly common.
ACK
For example my IBM TP570 (PII/366MHz/192MB)
is happy with /bin/bash and fast enough.
fast enought is in the eye of a beholder. Try with PII/64M
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 09:51 +0200, Jari Aalto wrote:
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, 2006-11-24 at 23:55 +0200, Jari Aalto wrote:
Instead of focusing and hammering again and again on /bin/sh, why not
instead ask maintainers to do #!/bin/dash?
Because the
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 11:31 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Thomas Bushnell]
I'm interested in why we should care at all. Perl is a far bigger space
hog than bash.
Debian Edu had to switch /bin/sh from bash to dash to get shutdown to
umount /usr/ when we use libnss-ldap (bug #159771).
Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I do not know a singel person which open 20 xterms with bash at the same
time. On my IBM i have normaly 4-6 XTerms open, mozilla and gaim.
I have a minimum of 18 xterms open at any given time, plus an additional
four shells running under screen, in
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 11/25/06 00:46, Greg Folkert wrote:
Ron, please stop that urban legend. Perl is Perl not P.E.R.L as you
say.
I have been corrected for saying that, by more than one Perl Monk, also
by Mr. Wall.
Perl is Perl. It has no meaning other than Perl.
I
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 10:20:07AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 09:51 +0200, Jari Aalto wrote:
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, 2006-11-24 at 23:55 +0200, Jari Aalto wrote:
Instead of focusing and hammering again and
[Thomas Bushnell]
Why not fix the bash bug instead??
Yes, I ask myself the same question. This bug was submitted as a bash
bug, and then passed on to the ldap library package by the bash
maintainer, and then passed back to bash and forwarded to upstream,
which never addressed it. No idea why
Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Am 2006-11-25 00:02:34, schrieb Jari Aalto:
PII with 62-128M, fairly common.
ACK
For example my IBM TP570 (PII/366MHz/192MB)
is happy with /bin/bash and fast enough.
fast enought is in the eye of a beholder. Try with PII/64M with
X
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 21:33 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
As I said, it is perfectly possible for a maintainer to write a script
which works on any shell and allows the user to pick at installation
time (heck, or even per-user!) which shell to use.
How cool that would be to be asked 1
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On 11/25/06 13:54, Russ Allbery wrote:
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 11/25/06 00:46, Greg Folkert wrote:
Ron, please stop that urban legend. Perl is Perl not P.E.R.L as you
say.
I have been corrected for saying that, by more than
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 11/25/06 13:54, Russ Allbery wrote:
It's a back-formation, as is Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister
(later in the man page). The language is actually named after Pearl
but since there was already a language named that, Larry Wall dropped
the a.
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 01:20:41AM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
El jue, 23-11-2006 a las 18:50 +0100, Axel Beckert escribi??:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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Version : 0.1.0
Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL or Web page :
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On 11/25/06 17:07, Russ Allbery wrote:
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 11/25/06 13:54, Russ Allbery wrote:
It's a back-formation, as is Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister
(later in the man page). The language is actually named
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On 11/25/06 17:07, Russ Allbery wrote:
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 11/25/06 13:54, Russ Allbery wrote:
It's a back-formation, as is Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister
(later in the man page). The language is actually named
[Bill Allombert]
Someone should grab gaia-0.1.0.tar.bz2 from Google cache and then
claim that Google distributed the software under the GNU GPL.
Hehe. Doubt that will have any effect, though. :)
It will not address the problem for the most interesting material,
though, as the google map data
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What matters is that Perl started out as
Perl is a interpreted language optimized for scanning arbi-
trary text files, extracting information from those text
files, and printing reports based on that information. It's
also a
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On 11/25/06 18:24, Russ Allbery wrote:
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What matters is that Perl started out as
Perl is a interpreted language optimized for scanning arbi-
trary text files, extracting information from
This one time, at band camp, Michelle Konzack said:
Am 2006-11-25 00:02:34, schrieb Jari Aalto:
PII with 62-128M, fairly common.
ACK
For example my IBM TP570 (PII/366MHz/192MB)
is happy with /bin/bash and fast enough.
fast enought is in the eye of a beholder. Try with PII/64M
This one time, at band camp, Ron Johnson said:
Does an official-looking top-of-the-man-page backronym that does not
indicate that it is a backronym *become* canonical, simply by reason
that it's at the top of the official man page?
Does a joke become truth just because people don't know it's a
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 07:42:14PM +, Oleg Verych wrote:
Guys. Once more. Spaces is your problem, not my.
In Unix, every byte except NUL and / (including CR, LF, quotes, and UTF-8
characters) can be used in a filename, and every string of those bytes
except . and .. is a perfectly valid,
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 05:03:13PM +0100, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
# ls /dev/udp /dev/tcp
ls: /dev/udp: No such file or directory
ls: /dev/tcp: No such file or directory
The chosen method of integration is practical non-sense.
What happens if /dev/tcp is present and a character device?
That's
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On 11/25/06 23:02, Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Ron Johnson said:
Does an official-looking top-of-the-man-page backronym that does not
indicate that it is a backronym *become* canonical, simply by reason
that it's at the top of
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 04:04:39PM +0200, Jari Aalto wrote:
It's easier to eyeball packages that explicitly announce bash.
Those could be put to a stress test through:
It's also relatively trivial to just run through the archive, looking
for shell scripts and at least sh -n them from various
Am Samstag 25 November 2006 22:57 schrieb Jari Aalto:
I do not know a singel person which open 20 xterms with bash at the
same time. On my IBM i have normaly 4-6 XTerms open, mozilla and gaim.
Try developing 10 software packages simultaneously (you leave the
session open and come back next
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
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Source: udftools
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Source: mol
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: MOL Packaging Team [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Source: wifi-radar
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Urgency: low
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:05:04 -0300
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Otavio Salvador [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Source: libmailtools-perl
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:24:14 +0100
Source: uswsusp
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Maintainer: Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:16:47 +0100
Source: hat
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Arjan Oosting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 22:09:24 +0100
Source: muscleframework
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Version: 1.1.6-1
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Source: rpm
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Source: missingpy
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Maintainer: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:03:15 -0600
Source: xlogmaster
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:35:41 +0100
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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