Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:18:57 -0800 Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The most common change is simply to retrieve the cross-building metadata from dpkg-architecture in debian/rules: http://wiki.debian.org/EmdebianGuide

Re: Help needed to fix watch file (Was: Bug#449736: wordnet: debian/watch fails to report upstream's version)

2007-11-07 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] (07/11/2007): The source tarball is provided as http://wordnet.princeton.edu/3.0/WordNet-3.0.tar.gz Since it is linked from http://wordnet.princeton.edu/obtain/… Any idea whether the watch file is wrong or is it possible that the upstream server just does

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:43:34 -0800 Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a bad suggestion and was apparently made without referring to the existing Debian instructions for how to handle packages that

Re: Pbuilder loads a lot of texlive fonts

2007-11-07 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:08:01 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] (07/11/2007): I heard apt-get now installs Recommends by default. Never noticed it myself yet, but if it does, I guess pbuilder will start now as well... any thoughts? Announced [1]. Delayed, but

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 09:43:34AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a bad suggestion and was apparently made without referring to the existing Debian instructions for how to handle packages that use Autoconf

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 12:05:55 -0500 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it's used to prevent upstream packages from *wrongly* building for i686 on the i386 architecture, as I've now stated several times in this thread. But why should that be added as part of a fix for cross-building? It

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a bad suggestion and was apparently made without referring to the existing Debian instructions for how to handle packages that use Autoconf and friends. Your assumption is wrong, I'm afraid. For one reason

Re: crossbuild support: help2man considered harmful

2007-11-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:04:48 + Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread will discuss the type of changes that are needed, which packages are affected and how these bugs will be identified. I've come across one issue: help2man If packages (like coreutils) use 'help2man' during the

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-07 Thread Felipe Sateler
Neil Williams wrote: As noted elsewhere in this thread, --build can be specified alone but is usually only used for specialist builds for i686 on i386 etc. I fail to see the merit of proposing that packages add --build to the normal Debian build for no reason. As also noted elsewhere on this

Re: Pbuilder loads a lot of texlive fonts

2007-11-07 Thread James Vega
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 04:12:57PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: I would like to stop this overkill because it is a pure waste of bandwidth but I have not even an idea why this happens, because I do not find these packages in the list of Recommens. Did I missed something? I noticed this as

Pbuilder loads a lot of texlive fonts

2007-11-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, a package of mine has the Build-Depends: texlive-latex-base, texlive-latex-recommended, texlive-fonts-recommended which leads to the fact that pbuilder installs texlive-lang-croatian texlive-lang-cyrillic texlive-lang-czechslovak texlive-lang-danish texlive-lang-dutch

Re: crossbuild support: help2man considered harmful

2007-11-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:08:43 + Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:04:48 + Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread will discuss the type of changes that are needed, which packages are affected and how these bugs will be identified. I've come

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:06:55 +0100 Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about making the snippet available in a .mk file that could just be included, so that whenever there is an enhancement, everyone can take advantage of it (but then, the snippet would need extra care to stay

Re: dh_installinit

2007-11-07 Thread Sylvain Garcia
Selon Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sylvain Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like package an application for debian and use dh_installinit for install init script, but I have problem. dh_installinit has add installation script at the of postint, but when i want install my

Re: Pbuilder loads a lot of texlive fonts

2007-11-07 Thread Cyril Brulebois
lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] (07/11/2007): I heard apt-get now installs Recommends by default. Never noticed it myself yet, but if it does, I guess pbuilder will start now as well... any thoughts? Announced [1]. Delayed, but activated in apt/0.7.7, uploaded 2007-10-23. 1.

Re: Pbuilder loads a lot of texlive fonts

2007-11-07 Thread Felipe Sateler
Andreas Tille wrote: I would like to stop this overkill because it is a pure waste of bandwidth but I have not even an idea why this happens, because I do not find these packages in the list of Recommens. You might find debtree useful: http://alioth.debian.org/~fjp/debtree/ -- Felipe

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 06:54:04PM +, Neil Williams wrote: So it is preferable for me to add --build to native builds even in a patch that is meant to only affect the cross build? I'm sure some maintainers will query why I'm setting --build outside the crossbuild. Provide two distinct

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:18:12AM +, Neil Williams wrote: Actually, /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz differs from that by specifying $(confflags) instead of SYSTEM and using 'export'. I don't see what benefit arises from the only other difference, ?= instead of =. When

Re: Pbuilder loads a lot of texlive fonts

2007-11-07 Thread lawrence
I heard apt-get now installs Recommends by default. Never noticed it myself yet, but if it does, I guess pbuilder will start now as well... any thoughts? - Lawrence Not A DD :) On November 7, 2007 12:43:21 pm Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, James Vega wrote: Riku's blog post[1] was

Re: dh_installinit

2007-11-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 10:33:58AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Sounds like a bug in the init script. In particular, it sounds like the init script is starting some program that's waiting for input on standard input. This would be bad when the init script is run during system boot as well.

Re: Gdk support for SVG

2007-11-07 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer, 2007-11-07 at 11:49 +0900, Michal Čihař wrote: It is in librsvg2-common. Shouldn't it be in libgtk2.0-0 suggests? I do not have strong opinion on this so I'm not filing bug :-). For pkg-xfce, we Recommends: librsvg2-common in packages needing it (mainly xfdesktop4 and xfwm4) --

Re: crossbuild support: help2man considered harmful

2007-11-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 05:08:43PM +, Neil Williams wrote: I've come across one issue: help2man If packages (like coreutils) use 'help2man' during the build, help2man tries to execute the compiled binary to get the error output to make into the manpage. Needless to say executing the

Re: dh_installinit

2007-11-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Sylvain Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like package an application for debian and use dh_installinit for install init script, but I have problem. dh_installinit has add installation script at the of postint, but when i want install my .deb the postinst script take a pause when

dh_installinit

2007-11-07 Thread Sylvain Garcia
Hi I would like package an application for debian and use dh_installinit for install init script, but I have problem. dh_installinit has add installation script at the of postint, but when i want install my .deb the postinst script take a pause when invoke-rc.d start the init script. If I

Bug#450520: ITP: ushare -- A free uPnP DNLA media server

2007-11-07 Thread Rob Andrews
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rob Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: ushare Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Benjamin Zores [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://ushare.geexbox.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : A free

Re: Pbuilder loads a lot of texlive fonts

2007-11-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, James Vega wrote: Riku's blog post[1] was a good hint. I seem to be too stupid to find relevant information at this link. (Seems to witness my theory that blog only information tends to get lost in space.) After turning off automatic installation of Recommends, the

Re: Mandatory support for -nocheck in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-11-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Neil Williams writes (Re: Mandatory support for -nocheck in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS): Packages that run a test suite during the default build must support omitting the tests either upon detecting cross-compiling using dpkg-architecture or when -nocheck is specified in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS. I support

Re: dh_installinit

2007-11-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:59:00PM +0100, Sylvain Garcia wrote: Selon Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sylvain Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like package an application for debian and use dh_installinit for install init script, but I have problem. dh_installinit has add

Building with or without Recommends.

2007-11-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 07:52:05PM +0100, Luca Capello a écrit : lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] (07/11/2007): I heard apt-get now installs Recommends by default. Never noticed it myself yet, but if it does, I guess pbuilder will start now as well... any thoughts? So, from my very simple

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, then I'm even more mystified as to why you contradicted those instructions and told people not to pass --build to configure for non-cross-compile builds. So it is preferable for me to add --build to native

Re: dh_installinit

2007-11-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Sylvain Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for your anwswer How verify if the the program start by init script wait an entry on standard input; because when use init y hand this script work perfectly. Ah, hm. This may be a different problem, then. Some daemons don't close file

Re: dh_installinit

2007-11-07 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Sylvain Garcia said: How verify if the the program start by init script wait an entry on standard input; because when use init y hand this script work perfectly. strace the process - if it is waiting on input, it will be stuck in a read on an fd. Compare that fd to

Re: Building with or without Recommends.

2007-11-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 09:08:09AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 07:52:05PM +0100, Luca Capello a écrit : lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] (07/11/2007): I heard apt-get now installs Recommends by default. Never noticed it myself yet, but if it does, I guess pbuilder will

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