Work-needing packages report for Feb 22, 2008

2008-02-21 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 357 (new: 65) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 90 (new: 5) Total number of packages request

Re: Practical solutions to: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:31:32PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > Excellent points made by both of you. > Here are some things that occur to me quickly: > 1) Large projects using $DVCS and making it easy for people that aren't > familiar with $DVCS to learn how to participate in that project. He

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:54:09PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig a écrit : > What about the following (happy flaming...): Let's just pick > openoffice.org. Rene needs help. It has 340 open bugs. We're > somewhere around 1000 DDs. Makes 3 developers per bug. Let's just > randomly form teams of 3 from

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Michael Tautschnig
[...] > Some people really like mentoring and training others and find that > immediately rewarding. Those people are wonderful and deserve all the > praise we can give them. For the rest of us, I think it's often a lot > to expect of people. That sort of training is in many respects >

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Russ Allbery
David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is something that's been bugging me for a while now. As our > software packages get larger and larger, we need more people to take > them on. To do this, we need more people willing to work with such large > and difficult codebases. Unfortunately, t

Practical solutions to: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread John Goerzen
[ subject changed ] On Thursday 21 February 2008 8:22:49 pm Don Armstrong wrote: > On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, David Nusinow wrote: > > We could deal with this problem if we were better at training and > > recruiting people to work on such things. We've been lucky in the > > XSF lately in getting enough

Re: liblockfile L_PID behavior and use of stat atime

2008-02-21 Thread Rob Browning
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Someone reported a bug against lockfile-progs, and while > investigating I noticed a couple of things about liblockfile that > didn't seem quite right. After further investigation, it looks like a lockfile created on a noatime (or relatime?) filesystem,

Re: avoid conf file overwrite message?

2008-02-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 06:24:37PM -0800, William Francis wrote: > I have a package that I made which does a dpkg-divert in the > 'preinst' on a couple of config files and then installs replacements > from them. However, even though the dpkg-divert has run (and I've > verified it does move it to t

Re: dpkg-buildpackage now reorganizing debian/control Depends field??

2008-02-21 Thread Otavio Salvador
"Kevin B. McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In some cases, particularly when the Depends can be satisfied by > different sets of alternatives, this change could have the effect of > changing the packages actually pulled in by apt-get or aptitude. I will > be happy to post a couple such examp

Re: avoid conf file overwrite message?

2008-02-21 Thread Deepak Tripathi
Hi You can use apt-get -y --force-yes apache2 Thanks Deepak Tripathi On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 08:52:24AM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 06:24:37PM -0800, William Francis wrote: > > > Is there a

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:20 AM, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le vendredi 22 février 2008 à 02:10 +0900, Paul Wise a écrit : > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > OTOH, maybe you're just too incompetent for that. > > > > I

Re: avoid conf file overwrite message?

2008-02-21 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 08:52:24AM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 06:24:37PM -0800, William Francis wrote: > > Is there a way (short of piping in /usr/bin/yes or something similar) > > to make that go away? Eventually I'll use something like puppet to > > manage these files b

Re: avoid conf file overwrite message?

2008-02-21 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 06:24:37PM -0800, William Francis wrote: > Is there a way (short of piping in /usr/bin/yes or something similar) > to make that go away? Eventually I'll use something like puppet to > manage these files but for now this happens to be the easiest way. If > I do answer 'Y' it

Re: Bug#466939: ITP: hex2bin -- Converts Motorola and Intel Hex files to binary

2008-02-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:04:19AM +0100, Uwe Hermann wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: hex2bin > Version : 1.0.6 > Upstream Author : Jacques Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://sourceforg

dpkg-buildpackage now reorganizing debian/control Depends field??

2008-02-21 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Hi dpkg maintainers, developers, (Please follow up only to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I've just noticed that packages I've built recently have had the list of Depends reorganized into ASCIIbetical order in the generated binary .debs. I guess this was the next logical step after having dpkg-dev re-order

avoid conf file overwrite message?

2008-02-21 Thread William Francis
I have a package that I made which does a dpkg-divert in the 'preinst' on a couple of config files and then installs replacements from them. However, even though the dpkg-divert has run (and I've verified it does move it to the name I specify), I still get a message that looks like this: (this is

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, David Nusinow wrote: > We could deal with this problem if we were better at training and > recruiting people to work on such things. We've been lucky in the > XSF lately in getting enough hands to get the work done, but I don't > think there's any clear forumla from our experie

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread David Nusinow
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:20:42AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > Does it reflect badly on you? Probably not, since you're the only person > maintaining OOo and you've asked for help. But I think it unquestionably > reflects poorly on Debian. Though of course we are a volunteer project, so > it

Re: Lintian over sensitivity?

2008-02-21 Thread Russ Allbery
David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > IANAL, but I've read what I stated somewhere on the net. After some > googling: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_symbol > > Citation: > > "Because the © symbol has long been unavailable on typewriters and > ASCII-based computer systems, it has

Bug#466939: ITP: hex2bin -- Converts Motorola and Intel Hex files to binary

2008-02-21 Thread Uwe Hermann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: hex2bin Version : 1.0.6 Upstream Author : Jacques Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/hex2bin/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Descr

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Michael Tautschnig
> Paul Wise wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> OTOH, maybe you're just too incompetent for that. > > > > Insulting contributors really isn't helpful Josselin. > > > > But the same it true the other way around. Imho it's also not ok

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> OTOH, maybe you're just too incompetent for that. > > Insulting contributors really isn't helpful Josselin. > But the same it true the other way around. Imho it's also not ok to insult DDs publ

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 06:52:02PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Perhaps not, but it does not matter. I have now idea about his > status. But I do know that your message is read by a lot more than > jidanni, and those readers probably do not know any more about his > status as a contributor

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Josselin Mouette] >> Insulting contributors really isn't helpful Josselin. > > Indeed, but jidanni is not a contributor. Perhaps not, but it does not matter. I have now idea about his status. But I do know that your message is read by a lot more than jidanni, and those readers probably do not k

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 22 février 2008 à 02:10 +0900, Paul Wise a écrit : > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OTOH, maybe you're just too incompetent for that. > > Insulting contributors really isn't helpful Josselin. Indeed, but jidanni is not a contributo

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OTOH, maybe you're just too incompetent for that. Insulting contributors really isn't helpful Josselin. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject o

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 21 février 2008 à 05:11 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > With the new style of "mass tirage" of bugs, > > The user submits a bug; > while (sleep 1 year) { > He gets a message asking him to verify if the bug still exists; > He perhaps especially reinstalls the package that he long

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, John Goerzen wrote: > > > blackholes. I submit a bug, and never hear anything from Debian > > > maintainers > > > except for periodic triage stuff when a new upstream comes out. > > > > Sorry, that's not fair at all. > > The two bugs I see in src:openoffice.org with my name on them are: >

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu February 21 2008 9:19:14 am Rene Engelhard wrote: > Hi, > > John Goerzen wrote: > > I have learned that certain well-known packages (OpenOffice, say) are > > bug > > OpenOffice isn't in Debian. If you mean OpenOffice.org, I feel obliged to > answer this now, because you complely underestimat

Bug#466876: ITP: naist-jdic -- free Japanese Dictionaries for ChaSen from NAIST

2008-02-21 Thread Hideki Yamane
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: naist-jdic Version: 0.2.0~preview1 Upstream Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Masayuki Asahara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yuji Matsumoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL: ht

Fwd: Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi again, > See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=419523 for a RFH open > > for looong. Oh, and note that I *did* reply to the offers there, but that didn't turn out (except Lior and and Tim Richardson with their bug triage of *OLD* bugs which I am very thankful for) Regards,

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi all, On Do, 21 Feb 2008, Rene Engelhard wrote: > I am barely keeping up with *new* bugreports and updating the packages, > keeping them buildable, backporting fixes from upstream etc. We from the Debian TeX Team have a very similar problem. There are about 300 bugs taken over from teTeX time

Re: How to cope with patches sanely

2008-02-21 Thread James Vega
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 04:23:10PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach James Vega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.02.21.0020 +0100]: > > The difference here being that feature branches are, in my experience, > > changes against the pristine upstream source. The merging of different > > feature b

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > With the new style of "mass tirage" of bugs, triage. > The user submits a bug; > while (sleep 1 year) { > He gets a message asking him to verify if the bug still exists; > He perhaps especially reinstalls the package that he long ago stopped > using && > He v

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, John Goerzen wrote: > I have learned that certain well-known packages (OpenOffice, say) are bug OpenOffice isn't in Debian. If you mean OpenOffice.org, I feel obliged to answer this now, because you complely underestimate a) how many people maintain OOo (hint: 1) and b) how many time even k

Re: Looking for co-maintainer for mercurial

2008-02-21 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 9:10 PM, William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'll be happy to help with this package. Hi, I'll help with this package too, because I use Mercurial everyday. Let's maintain it in: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/PythonAppsPackagingTeam ? There are many good

Re: How to cope with patches sanely

2008-02-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach James Vega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.02.21.0020 +0100]: > The difference here being that feature branches are, in my experience, > changes against the pristine upstream source. The merging of different > feature branches is done in some integration branch. Quilt patches are > a depend

Re: How to cope with patches sanely

2008-02-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.02.20.1722 +0100]: > I have to take care of it manually once. That is the first time > I setup the integration branch that merges in changes from the > overlapping feature branches. This is not a big deal, because the > human has

Dubai Balanced Score Center

2008-02-21 Thread Heba Munier
Dubai Balanced Score Training Center Up Coming Program Mar 2008 - [http://www.bsdubai.org/programs_details.php?type=course&cat=510] Strategies Of Modem Public Relations Dubai - City Seasons Hotel - Mar 02To 06 / 2008 - [http://www.bsdubai.org/programs_details.php?type=co

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu February 21 2008 12:51:42 am Ben Finney wrote: > "Paul Wise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm very bad at doing this myself, but it is equally important for bug > > submitters to triage their own bugs, especially if they have lots or > > many old ones. > > It's important for bug submitter

Bug#466866: O: libjsw -- joystick library

2008-02-21 Thread Darren Salt
Package: wnpp I've neglected libjsw for far too long; I just don't have any real interest in maintaining it these days (and anyway it's ages since I last used a joystick, and even then it was an old one with a standard DB9 connector). searchandrescue and oxine depend on libjsw, and bug 458774 say

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Some bugs are of dubious quality, but one must accept that in the end, it's > > still impressive. :) > > Note that also doesn't indicate how many were actually fixed. We have > nothing that look like bugzilla's NOTABUG or INVALID. Indeed. One could chec

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 02:09:11PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Yeah, it must be really hard to be an heavy bug filer. > > > > * 1552 Outstanding > > * 136 Forwarded > > * 10 Pending Upload > > * 1 Fixed in NMU > >

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Mike Hommey wrote: > Yeah, it must be really hard to be an heavy bug filer. > > * 1552 Outstanding > * 136 Forwarded > * 10 Pending Upload > * 1 Fixed in NMU > * 69 Resolved Note that if you look at his archived bugs you have to add: * 2010 Resolved

Re: Bug#466728: ITP: python-trio -- RDF utilities

2008-02-21 Thread Noah Slater
> I'd suggest expanding what RDF is, at least in the long description. Even > better would be expanding it in the synopsis of course. I disargree with you on this point. If the user doesn't know what RDF is they certainly don't want to install the package and knowing the definition isn't going

Re: Bug#466728: ITP: python-trio -- RDF utilities

2008-02-21 Thread Noah Slater
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 08:44:00AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Sorry, this is precisely rationale I fight against. Just saying "if you > don't know what this is, you don't need this" defeats the purpose of > packages descriptions. In the general case maybe but for this I disagree. For highly

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080221 08:36]: > Or also sometimes refrain themselves of filing nitpicking bugs for > corners cases which noone will ever meet. Or when doing thissend > *patches*. > > Where resources are low, adding more noise to an already noisy pile of > bugs is just

Ecartis command results: -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis --

2008-02-21 Thread Ecartis
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Re: Bug#466728: ITP: python-trio -- RDF utilities

2008-02-21 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On to, 2008-02-21 at 08:44 +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Sorry, this is precisely rationale I fight against. Just saying "if you > don't know what this is, you don't need this" defeats the purpose of > packages descriptions. I completely agree. There are lots of scenarios in which one might n

Bug#466823: ITP: rush -- Ruby replacement for a shell

2008-02-21 Thread Michael Schutte
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Schutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: rush Version : (no official release yet) Upstream Author : Adam Wiggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://rush.heroku.com/ * License : (needs to be clarified) Program

Re: Lintian over sensitivity?

2008-02-21 Thread David Paleino
Ciao Giacomo, Il giorno Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:46:35 +0100 "Giacomo A. Catenazzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > David Paleino wrote: > > > Not really. AFAIK "(C)" has no legal validity, while "Copyright" and "©" > > have. > > I really don't agree: > "(C)" is a symbol, as "ff", "fl", "..." are e

Re: Lintian over sensitivity?

2008-02-21 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
David Paleino wrote: Il giorno Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:44:13 +0200 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: Fakeroot-ng is copyrighted (C) 2007-2008 by Shachar Shemesh ... At least superficially, the copyright file lives up to all of the requirements that lintian asks for. Lintian versio