Re: problems with the concept of unstable -> testing

2008-12-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Kjeldgaard Morten wrote: > Another model that I think has not been discussed is never freezing stable. Freezing is the whole point of stable, if we didn't freeze it, it has no reason to exist. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-21 Thread Noah Slater
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 05:59:30AM +, Sam Kuper wrote: > 2008/12/22 Noah Slater : > > Troll. Troll. Troll. > > I hope that's not referring to John's email. Are you kidding? On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:36:05PM -0500, John Wiggles wrote: > I am not a dev or woman but I believe that sexism,racism

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-21 Thread Sam Kuper
2008/12/22 Noah Slater : > Troll. Troll. Troll. I hope that's not referring to John's email. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:49 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >> I suspect this is because Debian is loosing users. :( > > While we might be "losing users" to derivative distributions, that > won't take my sleep away. And I'm not only talking about Ubuntu - I note that Ubuntu has more than an order of mag

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-21 Thread Noah Slater
Troll. Troll. Troll. -- Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

"Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-21 Thread John Wiggles
I am not a dev or woman but I believe that sexism,racism and any other ism you want to add is wrong and should be dealt with accordingly and swiftly. Shame on the Debian Project leaders for not coming out against these people who think that making jokes that degrade,insult and basically hurt the fe

Re: problems with the concept of unstable -> testing

2008-12-21 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <1e8bc2f9-7665-4186-acff-79ad91461...@bioxray.au.dk> you wrote: > Say "stable" is redefined as "bug-free" in the sense that there are no > RC bugs in that repo. If a serious bug is found in a package, it is > removed from stable, until the bug has been fixed in "testing". this does

Re: For those who care about pam-ssh: RFC

2008-12-21 Thread Jens Peter Secher
2008/12/17 Steve McIntyre : > Luca wrote: >>2008/12/16 Luca Niccoli : >> >>++file_filter(const struct dirent *dir) >>++{ >>++ return (DT_REG == (DT_REG & dir->d_type)) || >>++ (DT_LNK == (DT_LNK & dir->d_type)) ; >>++} >> >>But I use XFS, which seems to have some problems with d_ty

Re: problems with the concept of unstable -> testing

2008-12-21 Thread Kjeldgaard Morten
On 15/12/2008, at 21.25, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Or you might use experimental, and keep unstable for lenny. Another model that I think has not been discussed is never freezing stable. Say "stable" is redefined as "bug-free" in the sense that there are no RC bugs in that repo. If a serio

Re: Bug#509063: ITP: libproxy -- automatic proxy configuration management library

2008-12-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Emilio Pozuelo Monfort: > Florian Weimer wrote: >> Not enabling WPAD with DNS devolution goes a long way towards dealing >> with this mess. > > Would you be fine if libproxy disabled WPAD by default? I think libproxy's > developers are willing to do that, according to [1]. Well, it's not my pac

Re: Bug#509063: ITP: libproxy -- automatic proxy configuration management library

2008-12-21 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > Hi Florian, > > Thanks for your concerns. I appreciate it. > > Florian Weimer wrote: >> Not enabling WPAD with DNS devolution goes a long way towards dealing >> with this mess. > > Would you be fine if libproxy disabled WPAD by defau

Re: Bug#509063: ITP: libproxy -- automatic proxy configuration management library

2008-12-21 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Hi Florian, Thanks for your concerns. I appreciate it. Florian Weimer wrote: > Not enabling WPAD with DNS devolution goes a long way towards dealing > with this mess. Would you be fine if libproxy disabled WPAD by default? I think libproxy's developers are willing to do that, according to [1].

Re: Josselin Mouette and Planet Debian

2008-12-21 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
Hi, people. I'm not a DD here, so let that colour your opinions of what I will say however it will. I am, however, deeply interested in Debian and have done wee bits of coding for it in the past, and keep meaning to do so more for it. It is an unfortunate situation that often people when they're

Dinstall and mirror push frequency

2008-12-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hi as announced a bit earlier[1], I just changed the frequency of our dinstall run, and as such the frequency of the mirror pushes too. We are now having 4 runs/pushes a day. The runs start at [01|07|13|19]:52 (every 6 hours, starting at 1:52), the mirror push follows approximately an hour later,

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 09:40:45AM +0100]: > Looking at http://popcon.debian.org/ >, it seem to me that the > number of stable installations is dropping fast. The graph > "popularity-contest versions in use" show this, with version 1.41 > being the one in stable. > (...) > T

Re: Can I become a Debian package maintainer, how?

2008-12-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:05:07AM +, Sune Vuorela a écrit : > On 2008-12-20, schoappied wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I work with Debian now for a few years. And I like to help the project > > and also learn more about it... > > Can I become a Debian package maintainer, how? I'm especially interest

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: 2008-09-02 75595 2008-09-15 76712<-- 2008-10-01 76532<-- 2008-10-15 77111 2008-11-01 79441 2008-11-15 79694 2008-12-01 79459 2008-12-15 79262 2008-12-20 79202 As you can see, the number of submissions have dropped the last month.

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-12-21 15:14 +0100, Teemu Likonen wrote: > Petter Reinholdtsen (2008-12-21 14:38 +0100) wrote: > >> As you can see, the number of submissions have dropped the last month. >> Not by much so far, but it used to increase every week. > > Maybe we want to look at the bigger picture. This is a gr

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Teemu Likonen
Petter Reinholdtsen (2008-12-21 14:38 +0100) wrote: > [Florian Weimer] >> This doesn't appear in the per-architecture statistics. Are you sure >> you got your numbers correct? > As you can see, the number of submissions have dropped the last month. > Not by much so far, but it used to increase ev

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Karl Goetz] > Or some people are doing what I did - clean install from stable -> > testing (to see the new D-I) and not installing popcon. Oh, I am sure some people are doing this. But for it to have an effect on the statistics, more people need to do install lenny without enabling popcon than t

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Florian Weimer] > * Petter Reinholdtsen: > >> The number of installations using testing has been slowly increasing, >> but not enough to compensate for the reduction in stable >> installations. The net effect is that fewer and fewer are submitting >> to popcon.debian.org. > > This doesn't appear

Re: Josselin Mouette and Planet Debian

2008-12-21 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
Quoting Steve McIntyre : [snip] Here's the full body of the message I sent to Sam. He contacted me asking for my thoughts and I wrote the following: === On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 08:53:24AM +1100, Sam Varghese wrote: [snip] I am

Re: Josselin Mouette and Planet Debian

2008-12-21 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 23:04 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > The above article concerns the damage that Josselin's actions cause to the > Debian project. D-d-a is not that different from other parts of Debian, bad > behaviour in other forums also hurts the project. I think that flame-war thre

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Karl Goetz
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:40:45 +0100 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > The number of installations using testing has been slowly increasing, > but not enough to compensate for the reduction in stable > installations. The net effect is that fewer and fewer are submitting > to popcon.debian.org. Or som

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-12-21 09:40 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Looking at http://popcon.debian.org/ >, it seem to me that the > number of stable installations is dropping fast. The graph > "popularity-contest versions in use" show this, with version 1.41 > being the one in stable. > > When the version i

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Petter Reinholdtsen: > The number of installations using testing has been slowly increasing, > but not enough to compensate for the reduction in stable > installations. The net effect is that fewer and fewer are submitting > to popcon.debian.org. This doesn't appear in the per-architecture sta

Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Looking at http://popcon.debian.org/ >, it seem to me that the number of stable installations is dropping fast. The graph "popularity-contest versions in use" show this, with version 1.41 being the one in stable. When the version in stable, testing and unstable were different (now the same versio

Re: Can I become a Debian package maintainer, how?

2008-12-21 Thread Ben Finney
schoappied writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > > One of the smoothest paths to improving Debian and becoming a > > contributing maintainer is to choose a Debian package that you use > > yourself, and begin fixing some of its bugs in the bug tracking > > system http://bugs.debian.org/>. > > > > This wil