On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 08:51:12PM -0600, Bryan Bishop wrote:
> I've basically written up this email on a site as well-
> http://heybryan.org/shell.html
I do not see what this has to do with Debian Development. It also sounds
awfully similar to what doxygen does. However, most manuals generated w
Russ Allbery wrote:
I think the following are borderline:
hdparm
iftop
iotop
ncftp
nmap
strace
They're useful tools, many of which I use, but I'm not sure they're so
useful to warrant installing them on every system by default. You can
generally install them when you need them, [...]
While
Hi all,
I'd like to work on a method to search for packages based off of
recognized input file formats and recognized output file formats of
the contained program(s). Maybe by MIME-type (RFC 2046), such as:
image/gif
image/jpeg
image/png
image/tiff
video/mp4
video/mpeg
application/x-latex
Here's
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 19:02 +, The Fungi wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 10:29:26AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> [...]
> > I think installing tcpdump is sufficient; adding ethtool on top of
> > it seems like overkill to me.
> [...]
>
> It seems mii-tool from the net-tools started falling by t
Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 13:02 -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit :
> Oh, sorry, I confused it with a different program. Hm, ethtool I'd put
> into the borderline category -- one argument in its favor is that you may
> need it in order to fix your networking so that you can get somewhere to
> instal
Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 18:05 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit :
> [Michael Goetze]
> >> ... nscd ...
> >
> > I think that's a bad idea. It can cause some confusion when people make
> > config changes that don't take effect immediately, and is hard to debug.
>
> It reduces the load on the
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Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 14:17 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
> Is it usable without large parts of KDE installed? web. Does it need
> lots of KDE? kde. (Where lots is debatable, but kdelibs, kicker, and
> some of the central parts of it would probably be a good guess)
Using such criteria is
Petter Reinholdtsen writes:
> The list of packages I proposed to add for Debian as a whole was this
> shorter list:
>
> consolekit, […]
‘consolekit’ currently (as of version 0.2.10-3) ‘Depends: libx11-6’. I
usually regard that dependency as an indicator of a package I don't
want installed on
Hey,
if you are a DM uploading your packages, please pay extra attention in
the next few days. We just changed the underlying code in our archive
software to be less awkward. While we did test that (using the help from
Eugene V. Lyubimkin (thanks)) there might be cases not covered by our
tests.
T
[Russ Allbery]
> The vast majority of Debian installations don't use LDAP NSS maps,
> though. I know that Debian-Edu does heavily, which makes it quite
> reasonable for you to want to install it, but I'm not sure it makes
> sense for Debian as a whole.
Note that I did not propose to install nscd
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 10:29:26AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
[...]
> I think installing tcpdump is sufficient; adding ethtool on top of
> it seems like overkill to me.
[...]
It seems mii-tool from the net-tools started falling by the wayside
for a while, as gigabit Ethernet had become standard in
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 13:02 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Steve Langasek writes:
> > On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 10:29:26AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> >> I think installing tcpdump is sufficient; adding ethtool on top of it
> >> seems like overkill to me.
>
> > ethtool doesn't seem particularly r
Steve Langasek writes:
> On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 10:29:26AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I think installing tcpdump is sufficient; adding ethtool on top of it
>> seems like overkill to me.
> ethtool doesn't seem particularly related to tcpdump?
Oh, sorry, I confused it with a different program
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 10:29:26AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I'm honestly mystified as to why any of the following should be in
> standard, given how obscure what they do seems to be:
> > consolekit
> > gdebi
> > libpam-ck-connector
Going forward, consolekit is the "standard" way to grant loca
On 2009-01-02, Russ Allbery wrote:
> include X), so if they're what use consolekit, that's not an argument for
> making it standard. However, it may be a good argument for why it's not
> obscure. I did check a current unstable GNOME system and saw no sign of
It was mostly the obscure part I wan
Sune Vuorela writes:
> On 2009-01-02, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I'm honestly mystified as to why any of the following should be in
>> standard, given how obscure what they do seems to be:
>>> consolekit
>>> libpam-ck-connector
> Consolekit will be more and more used, at least for desktop installs
On 2009-01-02, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I'm honestly mystified as to why any of the following should be in
> standard, given how obscure what they do seems to be:
>
>> consolekit
>> libpam-ck-connector
Consolekit will be more and more used, at least for desktop installs in
squeeze, they will probabl
Russ Allbery writes:
> Petter Reinholdtsen writes:
>> cfengine2
> I think that's rather hard to justify as priority: standard. There are a
> lot of other configuration management systems in the world (and IMO much
> better ones).
Ah, sorry, I see this isn't in your recommended list. This is
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Description
I think a lot of the ones you listed already are priority: standard or
higher. debian-archive-keyring, less, man-db, manpages, and wget, for
example. I stopped checking after spot-checking a few; you may want to
filter your list some more.
Here are some I definitely disagree with that jumped out
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
> (Does nscd honor DNS TTLs properly yet? Last time I looked at it, its DNS
> caching was horribly broken, but it's been quite a while.)
It can't, it would be a layering violation. What one would need is to
selectively apply nscd only to some maps (and *d
Petter Reinholdtsen writes:
> [Michael Goetze]
>>> ... nscd ...
>> I think that's a bad idea. It can cause some confusion when people make
>> config changes that don't take effect immediately, and is hard to debug.
> It reduces the load on the LDAP server when using LDAP for PAM/NSS,
> and has
[Michael Goetze]
>> ... nscd ...
>
> I think that's a bad idea. It can cause some confusion when people make
> config changes that don't take effect immediately, and is hard to debug.
It reduces the load on the LDAP server when using LDAP for PAM/NSS,
and has proven to be required to avoid overlo
> I guess we actually need to consider what the sections are good for.
> Asking in a random irc channel at least didn't reveal any real answers.
> So what about killing the concept of sections entirely ?
Sure, if at some point a replacement is suitable and *well integrated*
into those Debian tools
Joerg Dorchain wrote:
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> Version: 1.3 (20081124)
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> Licence: GPL
> Description:
> Formerly known as "PBX4Linux", Linux-Call-Router is not only a route
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On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 13:34 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Hi
>
> after some discussion within the ftpteam we just modified a few override
> entries (15 to be exact). The following packages moved from standard to
> optional:
I have had a look at the "LSB Core" specification version 3.2. The
sectio
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> Hi
Hello,
> I've got an interrupted upload to ftp.upload.debian.org, leaving stale
> files in the queue.
>
> I tried to clean up those using
> dcut -kyo...@debian.org rm stale_files
>
> but that was silently ignored.
>
> I was then able to remove stale files by
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 13:43 +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> I guess we actually need to consider what the sections are good for.
> Asking in a random irc channel at least didn't reveal any real
> answers.
> So what about killing the concept of sections entirely ?
The primary user of section: is packa
On 2009-01-02, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>
>> What is the correct usage of this section?
>> Is it for packages that is related to the desktop itself or is it for
>> packages that links against kdelibs ?
>
>> Should a game using kdelibs go to section:games or section:kde?
>
> games.
>
>> should a web br
Hi
I've got an interrupted upload to ftp.upload.debian.org, leaving stale
files in the queue.
I tried to clean up those using
dcut -kyo...@debian.org rm stale_files
but that was silently ignored.
I was then able to remove stale files by setting DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME
and then running 'dcut
> What is the correct usage of this section?
> Is it for packages that is related to the desktop itself or is it for
> packages that links against kdelibs ?
> Should a game using kdelibs go to section:games or section:kde?
games.
> should a web browser using kdelibs go to section:web or section
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> In Debian Edu, we concluded that more packages than the Debian
> Standard packages are needed in all installations, and install these
> packages by default for any profile:
> ... nscd ...
I think that's a bad idea. It can cause some confusion when people make
config c
[Steve Langasek]
> Hmm, come to think of it, we ought to replace the 'ftp' package in
> standard with something more usable, such as lftp or ncftp...
In Debian Edu, we concluded that more packages than the Debian
Standard packages are needed in all installations, and install these
packages by def
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Licence: GPL
Description:
Formerly known as "PBX4Linux", Linux-Call-Router is not only a router,
Hi!
I have been wondering over the last months about Section: kde.
What is the correct usage of this section?
Is it for packages that is related to the desktop itself or is it for
packages that links against kdelibs ?
Should a game using kdelibs go to section:games or section:kde?
should a web b
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