Manoj Srivastava writes:
> I would not be against a recommendation in policy to implement
> direct-from-vcs upstream tarballs to be created vbia get-orig-source,
> and everyone else just use debian/watch and debian/urepack files.
Okay, now I'm officially confused. I don't see how the
On Sun, Mar 15 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 06:48:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 12 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>> Given that we already have a tool that can download upstream
>> sources, with or without mangling, and can be used by facilities
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Martín Ferrari wrote:
> * mii-tool: it could be dropped and replaced by a pointer to ethtool as
> it's not meant to be used automatically by scripts. On the other hand,
mii-tool behaviour when you call it without parameters is *extremely* useful
to locate which cable goes whe
Ben Hutchings writes:
> # Upstream homepage links to a file called puzzles.tar.gz which
> # redirects to puzzles-r$version.tar.gz. uscan can't check that.
> # However, this is a nightly snapshot numbered according to the SVN
> # revision number, so we can extract the version number from its web
Russ Allbery writes:
> However, I don't think this helps with the original problem on the
> thread where upstream uses only a VCS. I think that's a bad idea,
> but some upstreams do it, and right now uscan doesn't handle that
> sort of case (and it's rather outside its current purpose).
Note tha
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 04:44:08PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> Now, this has its own set of problems and caveats as well, since if you
> don’t pay attention and take care of later cleanup, you end up with
> packages in testing that do not belong to any source in testing, which
> is bad.
Will the
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 21:52, Brian May wrote:
> Martín Ferrari wrote:
>> * netstat : sstat provides almost the same information, just some
>> formatting changes and parsing the command line
> sstat?
>
> I see /usr/bin/sstat in slurm-llnl - but that doesn't look right.
>
> What sstat are you re
Ben Hutchings writes:
> On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 18:15 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> However, I don't think this helps with the original problem on the
>> thread where upstream uses only a VCS. I think that's a bad idea, but
>> some upstreams do it, and right now uscan doesn't handle that sort of
>
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 06:48:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Given that we already have a tool that can download upstream
> sources, with or without mangling, and can be used by facilities
> outside of the unpacked Debian source package t
On Mar 15, David Paleino wrote:
> > [..] Welcome to 2008.
>
> Marco, did you dist-upgrade yourself? ;)
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/irony
HTH.
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On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 18:15 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Manoj Srivastava writes:
>
> > Given that we already have a tool that can download upstream
> > sources, with or without mangling, and can be used by facilities
> > outside of the unpacked Debian source package to determine if the
Manoj Srivastava writes:
> Given that we already have a tool that can download upstream
> sources, with or without mangling, and can be used by facilities
> outside of the unpacked Debian source package to determine if there was
> new versions and to download unmangled versions, is the
Martín Ferrari wrote:
> * netstat : sstat provides almost the same information, just some
> formatting changes and parsing the command line
>
sstat?
I see /usr/bin/sstat in slurm-llnl - but that doesn't look right.
What sstat are you referring to here?
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Manoj Srivastava writes:
> # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
> # along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
> # Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307
> # USA
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:-) Thanks, Manoj
On Thu, Mar 12 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Manoj Srivastava writes:
>
>> a) Run a upstream version check from cron, which mails me if there are
>> new upstream versions of something I have.
>> b) If there is a new upstream version, cd checked out dir
>> 1. No munging required: use uscan
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:55:33PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:16:47PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > ]] Clint Adams
>
> > | It may be time to change packages installing files to
> > | /emul/ia32-linux (which violates the FHS) to use
> > | /usr/lib32 instead.
>
>
On 11690 March 1977, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>> php Everything about PHP
> Does "everything" really means everything?
> At least the following are missing:
> php5-adodb
> libphp-adodb
> libmarkdown-php
> I haven't looked at others.
It should. PHP was a late addition, so we mi
On So, 15 Mär 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > Furthermore, you have moved
> > cm-*
> > to fonts. Maybe lmodern* should also be moved to fonts???
>
> Without the * i guess? Done.
Right, I thought we had some -x11 variant, wrongly thought.
> > There are several other package shipping packages i
On 11690 March 1977, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
> There are also at least aspell-el and openoffice.org-l10n-el, which
> are certainly not Lisp unless Greek has a lot of parentheses :)
It seems the priority of the -el match was a little above what it should
have been. :)
Well, there is a reason we do su
On 11690 March 1977, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Can please move
> texlive-doc-el
> from the section lisp to the section doc, it is definitely not a lisp
> file but only documentations in Greek.
Haha. Yeah well. Seems i missed that.
> Furthermore, you have moved
> cm-*
> to fonts. Mayb
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:07:29 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> [..] Welcome to 2008.
Marco, did you dist-upgrade yourself? ;)
Ciao,
David
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On Mar 15, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Being able to rename an interface without messing with udev is a feature, not
> a bug.
Every relevant Linux distribution requires udev, and so do many
important features of Debian systems. Anything not compatible with udev
is a toy which wastes space in the arc
Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Mar 15, Martín Ferrari wrote:
>
>> * netstat : sstat provides almost the same information, just some
>> formatting changes and parsing the command line
> While I am happy to see ifconfig and route go, I am not sure that
> netstat is in the same category and should be rep
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 05:33:31PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > There are several things I dislike about the first option.
> > 1. I do not like that policy would turn around 15 years of convention
> > and suddenly outlaw $(MAKE) -f d
This one time, at band camp, Raphael Hertzog said:
> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Stephen Gran wrote:
> Note that I'm not asking to mandate the tool. I would like to mandate the
> fact that packages can rely on some environment variables being set to
> some values.
>
> > I'd be much happier with a Makefil
Raphael Geissert wrote:
> And what's the final list of sections? lintian needs to be updated
See http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2009/03/msg00127.html
Cheers,
Emilio
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Marco,
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 15:11, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> * netstat : sstat provides almost the same information, just some
>> formatting changes and parsing the command line
> While I am happy to see ifconfig and route go, I am not sure that
> netstat is in the same category and should be
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Jaromír Mikeš"
* Package name: jnoise
Version : 0.4.0-1
Upstream Author : Fons Adriaensen
* URL : http://www.kokkinizita.net/linuxaudio/downloads/index.html
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C
Description : smal
Hi Joerg,
2009/3/15 Joerg Jaspert :
[...]
> php Everything about PHP
Does "everything" really means everything?
At least the following are missing:
php5-adodb
libphp-adodb
libmarkdown-php
I haven't looked at others.
>
>
> Note that we used some kind of "section priority" to
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 07:03:32PM +0100, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
> Subject: small command line utility generating sound (pink and white noise)
> Package: jnoise
> Version: 0.4.0-1
> Severity: wishlist
> ..snip..
Looks like you should have sent this to sub...@bugs.debian.org. It's an
ITP bug; se
2009/3/15 Norbert Preining :
>> http://ftp-master.debian.org/~joerg/sections.march2009.txt
>
> Can please move
> texlive-doc-el
> from the section lisp to the section doc, it is definitely not a lisp
> file but only documentations in Greek.
There are also at least aspell-el and openoffice.
On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 14:30 -0300, Martín Ferrari wrote:
[...]
> * nameif: can be replaced by "ip link", not sure if it's worth the
> effort (does anybody actually use it?)
Never heard of it, and it seems redundant with udev now. There's also
ifrename.
> Problematic tools:
> * mii-tool: it cou
Subject: small command line utility generating sound (pink and white noise)
Package: jnoise
Version: 0.4.0-1
Severity: wishlist
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On Mar 15, Martín Ferrari wrote:
> * netstat : sstat provides almost the same information, just some
> formatting changes and parsing the command line
While I am happy to see ifconfig and route go, I am not sure that
netstat is in the same category and should be replaced with something
which is
Hi Jörg,
(answering to debian-devel and not d-d-a where the mail followup was
set)
On So, 15 Mär 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> http://ftp-master.debian.org/~joerg/sections.march2009.txt
Can please move
texlive-doc-el
from the section lisp to the section doc, it is definitely not a lisp
f
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: MAUGE Vincent
* Package name: flvtool++
Version : 1.1.7
Upstream Author : Dan Weatherford and Facebook, inc.
* URL : http://mirror.facebook.com/facebook/flvtool++/
* License : BSD
Programming Lang: C++
Description
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Iain Lane
* Package name: google-gdata-sharp
Version : 1.4.0.2
Upstream Author : Google Inc, Novell Inc
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/google-gdata/
* License : Apache License 2.0
Programming Lang: C#
Description
Hi,
Luk Claes and me, as the current maintainers of net-tools, we've been
thinking about it's future. Net-tools has been a core part of Debian and
any other linux based distro for many years, but it's showing its age.
It doesnt support many of the modern features of the linux kernel, the
interfac
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Joost van Baal
* Package name: draai
Version : 20080614
Upstream Author : Joost van Baal
* URL : http://mdcc.cx/draai
* License : GPL v3 or later
Programming Lang: zsh
Description : A command line music player
D
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Raphael Hertzog said:
> > * either we modify policy to mandate the set of environment variables that
> > dpkg-buildpackage sets
> >
[...]
> > In terms of efforts, the first solution is the easiest. But we aim at the
> > _rig
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> There are several things I dislike about the first option.
> 1. I do not like that policy would turn around 15 years of convention
> and suddenly outlaw $(MAKE) -f debian/rules foo. This will break
> many of my packages; and I do not
Hello,
this mail is to talk a bit about the current situation regarding
transitions in unstable. In my opinion, it is unfortunate that the
Release Team has had to insist on semi-serializing them, because that’s
not the kind of development you want to have in unstable right after a
release.
Execut
Hi,
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:
> Thanks for letting me know. It would have been even better if you had
> provided an answer that actually help resolving my problem.
I did, I pointed you to dpkg-shlibdeps(1).
> Luckily someone did, and recommended the use of pbuilder to build t
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:12:39 +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> As an extra idea, on IRC Peter Palfrader suggested never skipping the
> warning, but always sending it to syslog rather than stderr.
Adding a NEWS.Debian file about the changed behaviour might be helpful too.
Cheers,
gregor
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On Sunday 15 March 2009 22:19:14 Luk Claes wrote:
> > 2. Provide an empty toolame package that depends on twolame.
>
> Preferably in the twolame source package.
As the current twolame maintainer.
I would be happy with this approach.
Mark
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Fabian Greffrath wrote:
> However, I think the toolame package in stable may stay both for the
> convenience of our users and because it's not *that* bad after all. I
> have prepared a package targeted at Lenny that fixes two portability
> bugs and some minor lintian warnings. It can be found at
Le dimanche 15 mars 2009 à 01:30 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
> Say you have acrobat reader installed which depend on ia32-libs-gtk.
> You also have libgtk2.0 (i386) installed with a newer version that
> breaks acrobat reader (like it did last year). Then acrobat reader
> will use the newe
As an extra idea, on IRC Peter Palfrader suggested never skipping the
warning, but always sending it to syslog rather than stderr.
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Hi
2009/3/15 Raphael Hertzog
>
> Everybody has stuff to learn but your mail made it clear that you had a
> lot to learn yet about libraries and automatic dependencies:
Thanks for letting me know. It would have been even better if you had
provided an answer that actually help resolving my prob
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > I wanted to gather some opinions on this matter. I've recently applied
> > to the mlocate package a patch I received to skip running the daily
> > update of the database if the system is running on batteries.
>
> > When that h
Hello Jean-Yves,
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:
> 2009/3/14 Adeodato Simó
>
> > Hello, Jean-Yves.
> >
> > Please mail your questions about packaging to
> > debian-ment...@lists.debian.org.
>
> I'm not sure I like to classify as "newbie"
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