Re: Debian 4.0 and Lustre

2009-03-23 Thread Patrick Winnertz
Hey, > I would like to know if there is any package of debian 4.0 and Lustre. > This will be the ultimate. Yes, we've created unofficial backport for etch. Use them on your own risk ;) See [1] for details. But I would strongly suggest you to update to lenny which is now the stable debian rele

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:55:58PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Well, the one thing that I think we need to clarify here is whether we > need to list the licenses for files that aren't source code for what goes > into the binary distribution, such as the build system. The files from > Autoconf and

Re: Bug#520954: ITP: xmind -- Mind mapping and brainstorming

2009-03-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:30:42PM +0100, Cedric Delfosse a écrit : > * License : LGPL v3 Hi Cédric, according to the home page, XMind is dual licensed under 2 open source licenses: the Eclipse Public License v1.0 (EPL), and the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL). Bonne journée,

Re: Re: Debian 4.0 and Lustre

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:52 PM, wrote: > I prefer Debian 4.0 because I feel it is more stable than 5.0. Am I right? I am unable to detect any difference in stability between etch & lenny for my use-cases. There is more useful software available for lenny though and it will be security-support

Re: Re: Debian 4.0 and Lustre

2009-03-23 Thread sethpn
I prefer Debian 4.0 because I feel it is more stable than 5.0. Am I right? On Mar 23, 2009 11:22pm, Paul Wise wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:38 AM, set...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would like to know if there is any package of debian 4.0 and Lustre. > This will be the ultimate. lust

Re: [Amendment] Reaffirm the GR process

2009-03-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:42:40PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > Hello developers, > I am hereby proposing the amendement below to the General resolution > entitled "Enhance requirements for General resolutions". > PROPOSAL START >

Re: Debian 4.0 and Lustre

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:38 AM, wrote: > I would like to know if there is any package of debian 4.0 and Lustre. >  This will be the ultimate. lustre appears to be only available in Debian 5.0 (lenny) and later, you might want to upgrade to lenny instead of continuing to use etch. There is als

Debian 4.0 and Lustre

2009-03-23 Thread sethpn
I would like to know if there is any package of debian 4.0 and Lustre. This will be the ultimate. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Upstream bug about WPAD security issues

2009-03-23 Thread Andreas Rottmann
As I discovered that libsoup SVN trunk has libproxy as an optional build dependency, I stumbled upon this ITP, and found out that upstream has been made aware of this issue: http://code.google.com/p/libproxy/issues/detail?id=21 Based on that bug, I assume that a future release release will offer

Re: [dissenting]: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-23 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le Sunday 22 March 2009 23:53:02 Bill Allombert, vous avez écrit : > Furthermore I am a Debian since 2001 and I see no evidence than the GR > process was abused during that time. On the contrary, some GR were delayed > to the point where it was inconvenient for the release process. I agree. I fail

Re: [Amendment] Reaffirm the GR process

2009-03-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 24/03/09 at 00:29 +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > PROPOSAL START > > === > > General Resolutions are an important framework within the Debian > > Project, which have served us well since the first GR vote in 2003, > > with 804 devel

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Daniel Burrows
I don't have the energy to push this any more, but I should probably at least refer to my previous attempt to standardize bulleted lists: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00531.html You might find it useful, or not. At least it more or less documents current practice in aptitu

[Amendment] Reaffirm the GR process

2009-03-23 Thread Bill Allombert
Hello developers, I am hereby proposing the amendement below to the General resolution entitled "Enhance requirements for General resolutions". PROPOSAL START General Resolutions are an important framework within the Debian

Re: What are the benefits of a machine-parseable ‘debian/copyright’ file? (was: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files)

2009-03-23 Thread Arthur de Jong
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 10:03 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > Anyway, thanks for the work on the format. To me it seems to > > probably be a good thing. I hope this mail wasn't too negative. > > I find this a little confusing, since you spent most of your message > saying how you *don't* think it's a g

Bug#520955: ITP: xserver-xorg-video-glamo -- X.Org X server -- SMedia Glamo display driver

2009-03-23 Thread Luca Capello
Package: wnpp Owner: Luca Capello Severity: wishlist User: pkg-fso-ma...@lists.alioth.debian.org Usertags: package-creation * Package name: xserver-xorg-video-glamo Version : MMDD.gitCOMMIT (read below) Upstream Author : mainly Lars-Peter Clausen * URL or Web page : http://gi

Bug#520954: ITP: xmind -- Mind mapping and brainstorming

2009-03-23 Thread Cedric Delfosse
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Cédric Delfosse * Package name: xmind Version : 3.0.2 Upstream Author : XMind Ltd. * URL : http://code.google.com/p/xmind3/ * License : LGPL v3 Programming Lang: JAVA Description : Mind mapping and brainstorming

Re: Please make openbsd-inetd of priority Extra.

2009-03-23 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Steve Langasek [Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:19:58 -0700]: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:14:24AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > Package: openbsd-inetd > > Version: 0.20080125-2 > > Tags: squeeze sid > > Severity: normal > > Following the thread on debian-devel, where people seemed to agree with > > su

Re: xine-lib transition: packages must depend on libxine1-x or libxine1-console, as needed

2009-03-23 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Darren Salt [Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:01:15 +]: > >> Debian Python Modules Team > >>   pyxine > > We only build-dep on "libxine-dev" and depends are brought in by substvar, > > so a binNMU should be enough to update dependencies. > No; you need to explicitly depend on libxine1-x or libxine1-co

Re: Missing gconf schema

2009-03-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 23 mars 2009 à 10:58 -0700, Ludovico Cavedon a écrit : > > Theoretically, any application should work without its schemas > > installed. Upstream considers it a bug otherwise. Practically speaking, > > we are far from there and it’s safer to consider them required. > > > > In all cases, it

Re: xine-lib transition: packages must depend on libxine1-x or libxine1-console, as needed

2009-03-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Sandro Tosi may or may not have written... > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 17:44, Darren Salt > wrote: >> Debian Python Modules Team >>   pyxine > ... >> Sandro Tosi >>   pyxine (U) > We only build-dep on "libxine-dev" and depends are brought in by substvar, > so a binNMU should be enou

Bug#520930: RFP: libemail-received-perl -- Perl library to parse an email Received: header

2009-03-23 Thread Guillaume Chambriat
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libemail-received-perl Version : 1.00 Upstream Author : Simon Cozens * URL or Web page : http://search.cpan.org/~simon/Email-Received-1.00/ * License : same as Perl itself Description : Perl library to parse an email R

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 02:32:17PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > In that respect, resisting the NIH syndrome just means choose an > already existing text-based markup language and adopt its > convention. For instance, we can just say that long description lists > have to be formatted as Markdo

Re: Missing gconf schema

2009-03-23 Thread Ludovico Cavedon
2009/3/19 Josselin Mouette : > Le jeudi 19 mars 2009 à 11:12 -0700, Ludovico Cavedon a écrit : >> are application using gconf *required* to have provide a schema? >> In other words, does it make sense to file a bug against applications >> which fail to do so? > > Theoretically, any application shou

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Tille (til...@rki.de): > Could you please clarify whether you mean *enumeration* (in the sense I meant itemization, actually, so more "" than "". There are certainly very few cases where ordered lists are really useful in packages' description. Sorry for the approximative English

Re: xine-lib transition: packages must depend on libxine1-x or libxine1-console, as needed

2009-03-23 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 17:44, Darren Salt wrote: > Debian Python Modules Team >   pyxine ... > Sandro Tosi >   pyxine (U) We only build-dep on "libxine-dev" and depends are brought in by substvar, so a binNMU should be enough to update dependencies. Feel free to coordinate this with release te

Re: xine-lib transition: packages must depend on libxine1-x or libxine1-console, as needed

2009-03-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 23 mars 2009 à 16:44 +, Darren Salt a écrit : > Debian GNOME Maintainers >totem (U) Fixed in the svn. -- .''`. Debian 5.0 "Lenny" has been released! : :' : `. `' Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told `-me that if you don't install Lenny, he

xine-lib transition: packages must depend on libxine1-x or libxine1-console, as needed

2009-03-23 Thread Darren Salt
It's time to move towards being able to drop the dependencies on libxine1-x and libxine-console from libxine1 and libxine1-all-plugins. This means that packages which need xine-lib's X output plugins will need to depend on libxine1-x, and packages which need its console output plugins will need to

Re: [dissenting]: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-23 Thread Luca Niccoli
2009/3/23 Lucas Nussbaum : >> Secondly, the GR process depends heavily on the possibility of developers >> to offer amendments and extra options on the ballots. In particular it >> is vital that middle-ground options get on the ballot. Requiring of them >> a high number of seconds might bar them f

Re: [dissenting]: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 23/03/09 at 14:28 +, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Lucas Nussbaum said: > > Could you propose an amendement that explicitely says that the current > > rules don't need to be changed (different from FD), and another one that > > proposes a compromise by requiring 8 or 10

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: In particular, I observe that we (IIRC) already have psuedo-parsing code which is used at least by packages.d.o to render as proper HTML lists the pseudo-lists which come from long descriptions. Not that I know of. IMHO it is just set verbose ()

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:55:58AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Wouter Verhelst: > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:53:55PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> * Bernd Zeimetz: > >> > Being able to rename an interface without messing with udev is a > >> > feature, not a bug. > >> > >> I think you

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:17:01AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 21, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > While 1.6% is indeed a rather small amount, I wouldn't call 1340 people > > 'trivial'. > I do, since I expect that most of these are using sarge or worse. There's no proof of that. Personally,

Re: [dissenting]: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-23 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Lucas Nussbaum said: > Could you propose an amendement that explicitely says that the current > rules don't need to be changed (different from FD), and another one that > proposes a compromise by requiring 8 or 10 seconders? You're aware that you can propose amendments

Re: Splitting of the gnome-python* source packages - MBF

2009-03-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 16 mars 2009 à 14:08 +0100, Josselin Mouette a écrit : > 3. GNOME-PYTHON-EXTRAS > > What is happening in unstable: > * egg.trayicon, gtkhtml2 and gtkmozembed each have their own > binary package (python-eggtrayicon, python-gtkhtml2, > python-gtkmozembed) > * gk

Re: Please Improve Debian for Multimedia Production

2009-03-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Felipe Sateler wrote: The DeMuDi project is dead AFAIK. This fits to my observation. The 64studio spawned from it, and can't be a pure blend. Actually the demudi team merged with the Debian Multimedia Maintainers, so we now work together. That's really good. I would

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 02:45:09PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > I do not propose drastic changes but a start for "Best practices" > might be reasonable and perhaps some lintian warnings might help to > remind developers to move to some standard. Laudable initiative, thanks for raising the issue.

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-23 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Joerg Jaspert wrote: The real problem here is that FTP masters require the list of copyright holders to be up-to-date each time the package goes through NEW. Whatever justification exists for this requirement, I???m starting to find it unacceptable. If a package has to go through NEW, it takes ab

Re: Transition of initscripts to new order / sequence number

2009-03-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 09:16:31AM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > >> It seems to me that it would be a lot less effort to fix this by removing > >> file-rc in Debian, which has only a handful (137) of popcon reports. Even > >> if we take into consideration

Processed: Re: Bug#520891: general: Data coruption on my /dev/sda - /dev/sdd sata_siil siil 3114 chip

2009-03-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 520891 linux-2.6 Bug#520891: general: Data coruption on my /dev/sda - /dev/sdd sata_siil siil 3114 chip Bug reassigned from package `general' to `linux-2.6'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance.

Re: [dissenting]: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 23. März 2009, Neil Williams wrote: > Then make an amendment that produces a lower requirement for seconding > amendments? sounds like an excellent idea to me, any takers? ;-) regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Please Improve Debian for Multimedia Production

2009-03-23 Thread Felipe Sateler
Andreas Tille wrote: > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, Jim wrote: > >> Hi. I took the suggestion of one of the replies to your original post >> and read about debian pure blends, and at first I thought demudi was a >> pure blend; > > At the time of writing the DeMuDi project *intended* to become 100% > Deb

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh (16/03/2009): > > So, ethtool really needs to grow an option to iterate over all > > netdevs, and another one to print a summary of link state and > > speed,duplex before mii-tool could be dropped. > > I won't promise anyth

Re: Jack Audio Connection Kit transition

2009-03-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 23 mars 2009 à 23:30 +1100, Felipe Sateler a écrit : > > No problem here. But objdump -p /usr/bin/creox | grep jack shows NEEDED > > libjack-0.100.0.so.0, that's where the linker looks. > > But why use the field when linking, and not use it when loading the shared > object? I fail to se

Re: Jack Audio Connection Kit transition

2009-03-23 Thread Felipe Sateler
[No need to CC me, thanks] El 23/03/09 23:17 Samuel Thibault escribió: > Felipe Sateler, le Mon 23 Mar 2009 23:02:00 +1100, a écrit : > > [1] This actually surprised me. Could someone explain to me why are there > > SONAMEs when they are not actually used? > > They are used when linking a program,

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Michael Banck wrote: So it would be great if some numbers could be brought up first (maybe Andreas has a rough overview now, because he looked at the different kinds of itemizations). Well, I had not but you can get it somehow by for tag in "\*" "-" "+" "o" ; do echo

Re: Jack Audio Connection Kit transition

2009-03-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Mon 23 Mar 2009 13:17:36 +0100, a écrit : > No problem here. But objdump -p /usr/bin/creox | grep jack shows NEEDED > libjack-0.100.0.so.0, that's where the linker looks. Oops, here, by linker I mean ld.so, not ld. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@li

Re: Jack Audio Connection Kit transition

2009-03-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Felipe Sateler, le Mon 23 Mar 2009 23:02:00 +1100, a écrit : > [1] This actually surprised me. Could someone explain to me why are there > SONAMEs when they are not actually used? They are used when linking a program, to know which NEEDED should be put. > % ldd /usr/bin/creox | grep jack >

Jack Audio Connection Kit transition

2009-03-23 Thread Felipe Sateler
Fellow developers and release team (bcc'ed), The Debian Multimedia Maintainers would like to drop the versioned jack library and development packages (that is, libjack0.100.0-{0,dev}). They were introduced a long time ago (along with the appropriately renamed library) due to perceived instabilit

Re: abiword package lacks maintenance

2009-03-23 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 07:08:08PM +0100, Patrik Fimml wrote: > Before migrating to a VCS, one might consider splitting the source > package. It seems a bit awkward to have four separate source tarballs in > one source package, which then builds four separate binary packages > again. Do you agree?

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-23 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh (16/03/2009): > So, ethtool really needs to grow an option to iterate over all > netdevs, and another one to print a summary of link state and > speed,duplex before mii-tool could be dropped. I won't promise anything, but I'm interested in having a look, time permittin

Bug#520891: general: Data coruption on my /dev/sda - /dev/sdd sata_siil siil 3114 chip

2009-03-23 Thread Bengt Samuelsson
Package: general Severity: grave Justification: causes non-serious data loss -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers oldstable APT policy: (500, 'oldstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-6-686 Locale: LANG=sv_SE.UTF-8, LC_C

Re: Fw: svnbuildstat, "Need build" status

2009-03-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 08:06:57PM +0100, Gonéri Le Bouder wrote: > Svnbuildstat is unmaintained for a while now. buildstat.d.n is the futur. Which currently refuses connections, is that expected? Just in case you overlooked it ... Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ Pos

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 07:24:45AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Michael Banck (mba...@debian.org): > > > > Please note that debian-l10n-english suggests using the enumeration > > > style you mention for a2ps, when we're reviewing package > > > descriptions... > > > > What's the ratio

Re: Bug#520876: general: new FTP app needs packaging ... http://bareftp.org

2009-03-23 Thread Peter Palfrader
reassign 520876 wnpp retitle 520876 RFP: BareFTP - yet another ftp client. thanks Such bugs belong against wnpp, not general. Please see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for mor information. > Package: general > Severity: normal > > Hi, > > There is a new FTP client called BareFTP. It would be

Processed (with 1 errors): Re: Bug#520876: general: new FTP app needs packaging ... http://bareftp.org

2009-03-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > package general Ignoring bugs not assigned to: general > reassign 520876 wnpp Bug#520876: general: new FTP app needs packaging ... http://bareftp.org Bug reassigned from package `general' to `wnpp'. > retitle 520876 RFP: bareftp -- FTP client fo

Bug#520876: general: new FTP app needs packaging ... http://bareftp.org

2009-03-23 Thread Martin Olsson
Package: general Severity: normal Hi, There is a new FTP client called BareFTP. It would be nice to have it packaged into Debian unstable. This application is available at: http://bareftp.org/ -- System Information: Debian Release: 5.0 APT prefers jaunty-updates APT policy: (500, 'jaunty-

Re: Please make openbsd-inetd of priority Extra.

2009-03-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:14:24AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Package: openbsd-inetd > Version: 0.20080125-2 > Tags: squeeze sid > Severity: normal > Following the thread on debian-devel, where people seemed to agree with > such a move, could you please upload a new openbsd-inetd with its > p

Please make openbsd-inetd of priority Extra.

2009-03-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Package: openbsd-inetd Version: 0.20080125-2 Tags: squeeze sid Severity: normal Following the thread on debian-devel, where people seemed to agree with such a move, could you please upload a new openbsd-inetd with its priority set to Extra instead of Standard ? Thanks. On lun, mar 09, 2009 at 07

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: What's the rationale? So far, I was under the impression that " * " A not very strong one, I'm afraid..:-) IIRC, we once found some reference indicating a tendency for dashed enumerations to be an accepted "standard" but I can't quote this. C

Bug#520869: ITP: jconv-reverbs -- Wav files needed for jack-jconv

2009-03-23 Thread Jaromír Mikeš
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Jaromír Mikeš" * Package name: jconv-reverbs Version : 0.8.0 Upstream Author : Fons Adriaensen * URL : http://kokkinizita.net/linuxaudio/downloads/index.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: Description : Wav

Re: What are the benefits of a machine-parseable ‘debian/copyright’ file?

2009-03-23 Thread Ben Finney
Neil Williams writes: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:59:29 +1100 > Ben Finney wrote: > > > > Are you saying that you don't want any BSD packages or that > > > you're trying to make Debian out of only packages using GNU > > > licences? > > > > I would find it useful, for example, to more easily deter

Re: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-23 Thread Joerg Jaspert
> Seconded. Please follow the mail headers in the original mail and send this to the place where vote stuff belongs: debian-v...@lists.debian.org. That is, if you want it to count anything. :) -- bye, Joerg [2.6.15.4 direkt nach 2.6.15.3] Linus muss Gentooler hassen. wieso? Naja, die dürfte

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Michael Banck (mba...@debian.org): > > Please note that debian-l10n-english suggests using the enumeration > > style you mention for a2ps, when we're reviewing package > > descriptions... > > What's the rationale? So far, I was under the impression that " * " A not very strong one, I'

Re: What are the benefits of a machine-parseable ‘debian/copyright’ file?

2009-03-23 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:59:29 +1100 Ben Finney wrote: > > Are you saying that you don't want any BSD packages or that you're > > trying to make Debian out of only packages using GNU licences? > > I would find it useful, for example, to more easily determine which > works, or parts of works, are F