Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org):
http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep4/#index7h2
During the transition, those bugs will remain. After the transition,
those bugs will go away so there should be no need for a closure
method. We’ll need to rely on i18n.debian.org for translation tracking
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Robert Millan wrote:
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 10:27:19PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
License and copyright are one and the same.
GPL license relies on copyright law, just like almost any other open
source license there is, be it BSD, Artistic or
+ Ben Finney (Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:44:48 +1000):
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes:
How is your work on a useful summary of kdebase-workspace going ?
I do wish this tiresome rhetorical non-argument would stop cropping up.
Are we not able to discuss the purpose of ‘debian/copyright’
Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org writes:
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 14:04 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:55:39PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
As (co-)maintainer of pm-utils and hal, I'd prefer if we could work towards
standardizing on one power management stack in Debian
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 08:41:08AM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
Maybe taking derived code (e.g. including new code), one could write only
the license of aggregate work (thus one later license),
I think so. I agree it could be better to list them explicitly, but
upstream doesn't want that.
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 09:32 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes:
I do wish that you would once try to look into the problems at hand
That *is* what I'm doing.
Obviously not. Maintainers keep explaining that your suggestions are not
applicable, maybe you
Le mardi 14 avril 2009 à 18:45 -0500, Raphael Geissert a écrit :
what feature provided by dash is being deprecated?
Like Russ said, if there's any feature not covered by policy that is
reasonable to be required please say so.
It is not the role of the policy to specify the exact requirements
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 05:00:57PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
Philipp Kern wrote:
I also found svn to be not Ctrl-C-able at time. I don't know if that
applies
to other signals too but if so I can imagine quite some hanging processes
on a server.
Ack - I know this problem too well.
ke, 2009-04-15 kello 10:33 +0200, Josselin Mouette kirjoitti:
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 09:32 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes:
I do wish that you would once try to look into the problems at hand
That *is* what I'm doing.
Obviously not.
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
It is not the role of the policy to specify the exact requirements of
the /bin/sh implementation.
It is, however, the role of Policy to specify the minimum required feature
set that all scripts can assume.
Actually it would be better to specify that
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 02:16 -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
Actually it would be better to specify that scripts must work with both
sh implementations available in Debian, being bash and dash, rather than
making nothing more than a fork of the POSIX spec.
The advantage of the current
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On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 10:25 +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:
Well, you can always argue that the rest can be fixed. Provide patches
etc. But the point is that hal implies a regression for many (most?)
users.
please stop the FUD.
hal breaks existing working configurations without warnings. The
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 10:25 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit :
False. All users want all things to work. The just is nice to have,
but not important. It's infinitely better to have to configure things
than not being able to.
Bullshit. This is just true for nerds who want to spend their whole
2009/4/12 Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org:
Expect grumpy people every time that you add something new that they have
to learn. I also had troubles with hal and X when I tried the X servers in
experimental. But I have not read any serious criticism based on technical
facts in the bug report
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 05:58:49PM +0200, Luca Niccoli lultimou...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/4/12 Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org:
Expect grumpy people every time that you add something new that they have
to learn. I also had troubles with hal and X when I tried the X servers in
[not CC-ing the RFA, I did it by mistake before and I don't think this
is so relevant to that specific matter]
2009/4/15 Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org:
Bug count is not a good metric. Take a look at the bug count for linux-2.6,
glibc, iceweasel...
Fair enough.
Is there a convenient way to
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 18:25 +0200, Luca Niccoli a écrit :
Is there a convenient way to measure how long a bug stays unanswered?
Or could someone suggest a better metric?
Because I have the feeling that many hal bugs are just kept undealt
(upstream as well), way more than with other
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 02:16 -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
Actually it would be better to specify that scripts must work with both
sh implementations available in Debian, being bash and dash, rather
than making nothing more than a fork of the POSIX spec.
The
2009/4/15 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org:
Or maybe it is just that the Utopia maintainers, just like those of
Linux, KDE, GNOME, Mozilla or X.org, receive too many bug reports
compared to the amount they can handle. Bugs assigned to HAL are often
caused by buggy drivers or other kernel
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Chris Lamb la...@debian.org
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
* Package name: swordfish
Version : 0.1
Upstream Author : Chris Lamb ch...@chris-lamb.co.uk
* URL : http://chris-lamb.co.uk/projects/swordfish
* License
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
Tracking the potentially hundreds of files with © notices that
make up the binary or the libraries is not something I am likely to
do. People looking for that information can inspect the sources, or ask
upstream, directly.
Or use
]] Luca Niccoli
| But what if I don't need hotplugging? Why should I bear hal flaws if I
| don't need its features?
A machine without USB or PCI is not a particularly common sight those
days. Heck, even machines without SATA are becoming uncommon.
--
Tollef Fog Heen
UNIX is user friendly,
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 11:44 -0500, Raphael Geissert a écrit :
Policy documents practice. When that new /bin/sh exists, you can change
bash is the current /bin/sh, from your statements I could imply that we
should require all /bin/sh's to support: b0rken bash arrrays, shell
regexes!,
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 02:16 -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
The advantage of the current Policy approach is that we have some hope
of introducing a new /bin/sh down the road, and we don't require that
packages comply with bugs in dash that should
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 09:57:25PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Luca Niccoli
| But what if I don't need hotplugging? Why should I bear hal flaws if I
| don't need its features?
A machine without USB or PCI is not a particularly common sight those
days. Heck, even machines without
Luca Niccoli wrote:
But what if I don't need hotplugging? Why should I bear hal flaws if I
don't need its features?
Please see the reply I just posted to the bug for a partial explanation
of why using hal is important for more than just hotplugging. I'll be
writing up a more complete
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 22:26 +0200, Iustin Pop a écrit :
hal, AFAIK, is useful for users who don't want to customize systems; once you
start customizing, hal and similar tools more get in the way than help.
HAL is merely an intermediate layer to help access underlying layers
like udev
2009/4/15 David Nusinow da...@gravitypulls.net:
Please see the reply I just posted to the bug for a partial explanation of
why using hal is important for more than just hotplugging. I'll be writing
up a more complete explanation soon.
I understand that hal fills an important gap in linux; I
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:02:16PM +0200, Luca Niccoli wrote:
2009/4/15 David Nusinow da...@gravitypulls.net:
Please see the reply I just posted to the bug for a partial explanation of
why using hal is important for more than just hotplugging. I'll be writing
up a more complete
Luca Niccoli wrote:
2009/4/15 David Nusinow da...@gravitypulls.net:
Please see the reply I just posted to the bug for a partial explanation of
why using hal is important for more than just hotplugging. I'll be writing
up a more complete explanation soon.
I understand that hal fills
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 11:44 -0500, Raphael Geissert a écrit :
[...]
And taking your statement to the extreme, it means that if zsh was used
as /bin/sh then no other shell interpreter could ever be used as /bin/sh
ever again but a fork of zsh.
I’m proposing
Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org writes:
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 10:25 +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:
Well, you can always argue that the rest can be fixed. Provide patches
etc. But the point is that hal implies a regression for many (most?)
users.
please stop the FUD.
Sorry. You're right.
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@seznam.cz
* Package name: lv2dynparam1-2
Version : 2.0.0
Upstream Author : Nedko Arnaudov ne...@arnaudov.name
* URL : http://download.gna.org/lv2dynparam/
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2009/4/15 David Nusinow da...@gravitypulls.net:
This is absurd. You agree that Hal fills an important need, yet you don't
like it because it's currently buggy? What the hell are you doing running
I wrote that **an** abstraction layer is the way to go.
I deem hal flawed by design, sorry about
Package: general
Severity: normal
Hi,
I try to open this as and udev bug (#524276) but Marco closed it because he
think that this is not an udev bug.
Yesterday, after upgarding my system (aptitude update aptitude safe-upgrade
aptitude clean), when I restarted the system I was not able to use
On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 01:04 +0200, Luca Boncompagni wrote:
Package: general
Severity: normal
Hi,
I try to open this as and udev bug (#524276) but Marco closed it because he
think that this is not an udev bug.
Yesterday, after upgarding my system (aptitude update aptitude
safe-upgrade
Hi Andreas,
Le Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 03:07:56PM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit :
once we are at renaming issues: IMHO we should simply close this bug report.
I fail to se a real problem here. There is only one binary /usr/bin/muscle
so there is no conflict regarding policy and the fact that
Hi!
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 13:26:36 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Michael Banck wrote:
So it would be great if some numbers could be brought up first (maybe
Andreas has a rough overview now, because he looked at the different
kinds of itemizations).
Well, I had not but
On Wed, Apr 15 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Policy documents practice.
I wish people would not say that. It is not true; and hasn't
been. And, moreover, we would not _want_ that to be true; there should
be no excuse to justify wanting to enshrine broken or bad practices
into policy.
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