Re: doc-base section for server software

2009-12-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 10:21:10PM +0100, Stefan Fritsch wrote: > the doc-base sections follow the menu sections. What to do with server > software? There is obviously no menu section for those. In fact, doc-base is now a bit less strict than that: it is based on the menu sections, but also allow

Re: Has Debian abandoned Python?

2009-12-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 04:48:37PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 02:11:41PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > The question of whether someone is doing an adequate job of maintaining a > > package is a legitimate one. The identity of their employer is > > imm

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Dec 06 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 09:28:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 06 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: >> >> > On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 11:44:39AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> Making a package essential in order to avoid

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 01:17:30PM +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 12:39:28PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > There's no reason that ucf *should* fall under either of these rules; so > > even if ucf /didn't/ work the way it does, the right solution here would be > > to f

Re: Policy conformant conffile handling...

2009-12-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 11:40:06AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > However, and here's the policy-related problem: Of course the admin > might have changed the default paper for one particular binary > manually. What should I do in this case? [...] > - let libpaper's setting overwrite everything: Pr

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 09:48:44PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 12:39:28PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > the right solution here would be to fix it so that it did, not to add > > it to Essential. > On a side note, I thought the right solution was to integrate the ucf >

Re: New Menu category Applictions/Multimedia

2009-12-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Andreas Marschke wrote: > I'm hereby proposing an additional Category for this list of such applications > called Multimedia. This defines clearer what they are. Sounds reasonable to me, this would bring the Debian menu closer to the FreeDesktop menu, which has Au

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | As is adding a perl dependency to packages that have no previous need > | for perl. > > *shrug*, unless you're talking about embedded systems, which are of > course free to patch their way out of this some other way, most systems > will h

Re: Bug#559774: ITP: modem-cmd -- send arbitrary AT commands to your modem

2009-12-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 01:43 +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Robert Millan > > * Package name: modem-cmd > Version : 0.0.1 > Upstream Author : me > * URL : none yet, debian-native Why should this be Debian-specific? > * Licens

Bug#559774: ITP: modem-cmd -- send arbitrary AT commands to your modem

2009-12-06 Thread Robert Millan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Robert Millan * Package name: modem-cmd Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : me * URL : none yet, debian-native * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : send arbitrary AT commands to your modem modem-cmd c

Bug#559761: ITP: release -- provides information about the current releases

2009-12-06 Thread Benjamin Drung
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Benjamin Drung * Package name: release Version : 0.1 (native) Upstream Author : Benjamin Drung * License : GPL v3+ Programming Lang: Python Description : provides information about the current releases This package contain

ITP: pesto -- is a library for Python web applications

2009-12-06 Thread Marcelo Jorge Vieira (metal)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marcelo Jorge Vieira (metal) * Package name: pesto Version : 13 Upstream Author : Oliver Cope * URL : http://pesto.redgecko.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : is a library for Python web

Bug#559757: ITP: sndfile-tools -- A collection of tools for operating on sound files.

2009-12-06 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Erik de Castro Lopo * Package name: sndfile-tools Version : 1.02 Upstream Author : Erik de Castro Lopo * URL : http://www.mega-nerd.com/libsndfile/tools/ * License : GPL and BSD Programming Lang: C Description :

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 09:28:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 11:44:39AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> Making a package essential in order to avoid a if clause in > >> postinsts is very likely too fri

doc-base section for server software

2009-12-06 Thread Stefan Fritsch
Hi, the doc-base sections follow the menu sections. What to do with server software? There is obviously no menu section for those. In particular, I want to know what to set for the Apache docs. There is Web Development and Network/Web Browsing, but both do not fit web servers. Currently, Apach

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 05:00:18PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Patrick Schoenfeld > > Hi, > > | depends on what you expect. I would expect or no lets say I wish that > | purging a package removes all traces that the package where installed > | in the first place, except the cases where th

Bug#559751: ITP: python-configglue -- Glues together optparse.OptionParser and ConfigParser.ConfigParser

2009-12-06 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julian Andres Klode * Package name: python-configglue Version : 0.2dev * URL : https://launchpad.net/configglue * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Glues together optparse.OptionParser and Config

Bug#559750: ITP: ubuntuone-storage-protocol -- Python library for Ubuntu One file storage and sharing service

2009-12-06 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julian Andres Klode * Package name: ubuntuone-storage-protocol Version : 1.0.0 * URL : https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone-storage-protocol * License : AGPL-3 Programming Lang: Python Description : Python library for Ub

Bug#559752: ITP: ubuntuone-client -- Ubuntu One client

2009-12-06 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julian Andres Klode * Package name: ubuntuone-client Version : 1.0.2 * URL : https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: Python Description : Ubuntu One client Package: ubuntuone-clie

Bug#559748: RFP: kdebase-runtime -- [Dependancy redundancy on libxine1]

2009-12-06 Thread Kolya Ay
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: kdebase-runtime Version: 4:4.3.2-1 Upstream Author: [NAME ] URL: [http://example.com] License: [GPL, LGPL, BSD, MIT/X, etc.] Desc

Re: Problem buildiing asterisk package

2009-12-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 08:20:14PM +0100, Marcin J. Kowalczyk wrote: > [LD] eagi-test.o strcompat.o -> eagi-test > [CC] eagi-sphinx-test.c -> eagi-sphinx-test.o > [LD] eagi-sphinx-test.o -> eagi-sphinx-test > [CC] chan_local.c -> chan_local.o > [LD] chan_local.o -> chan_local.so > /usr/

New Menu category Applictions/Multimedia

2009-12-06 Thread Andreas Marschke
Hi, I was pointed to http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu-policy/ch2.html as I had an issue with an application categorized as Sound though it did video and pictures, too. I found that there was no entry for Multimedia but for Applications/Sound and Applications/Video which is ra

Re: Problem buildiing asterisk package

2009-12-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 05:57:23PM +0100, Marcin J. Kowalczyk wrote: > Hi, > > Since Digium released Asterisk 1.6.1.8 I can't build debian package > (tried 1.6.2.0-rc7 and 1.6.1.11 as well). > While compiling straight on system everything is OK, but while I try to > build package I get: >From

Bug#559732: ITP: libweb-simple-perl -- simple web framework

2009-12-06 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: gregor herrmann * Package name: libweb-simple-perl Version : 0.002 Upstream Author : Matt S. Trout * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Web-Simple/ * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Programming Lang: Perl Description

Problem buildiing asterisk package

2009-12-06 Thread Marcin J. Kowalczyk
Hi, Since Digium released Asterisk 1.6.1.8 I can't build debian package (tried 1.6.2.0-rc7 and 1.6.1.11 as well). While compiling straight on system everything is OK, but while I try to build package I get: /usr/bin/ld: chan_bridge.o: in function __register_file_version:chan_bridge.c:30: err

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
2009/12/6 Patrick Schoenfeld : > > Actually the point is what a random package should do if it is beeing > purged in order to undo what it has done on installation in the > corner-case when ucf is beeing removed. > > Regards, > Patrick > My opinion If ucf is just removed then any dangaling files

Re: defaulting to net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 for squeeze

2009-12-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 24, Marco d'Itri wrote: > I am proposing to set net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 by default for new > installations Done, let's see what breaks. :-) -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: is it ok to listen on a localhost port for tests during build time?

2009-12-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Serafeim Zanikolas | On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:56:37AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > ]] Serafeim Zanikolas | > | > | The service supports no authorisation/authentication and, as of now, has no | > | way of limiting the size of inserted messages. Would it be acceptable if I | > | were t

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Patrick Schoenfeld Hi, | depends on what you expect. I would expect or no lets say I wish that | purging a package removes all traces that the package where installed | in the first place, except the cases where this is inappropriate (for | example: there is a good reason not to remove logfil

Bug#559719: ITP: classlib -- C++ Class Library

2009-12-06 Thread Gabriele Giacone
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gabriele Giacone <1o5g4...@gmail.com> * Package name: classlib Version : 3.0.9 Upstream Author : Lassi Tuura * URL : http://cmsmac01.cern.ch/~lat/exports * License : GPL2 Programming Lang: C++ Description : C++ Cl

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Dec 06 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 08:35:38PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> > I never said that. The problem are not the files owned by the package, >> >> > but the files owned by ucf, which are modified by ucfr, while not >> >> > restoring t

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Dec 06 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > On So, 06 Dez 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> So, policy does not require dependencies to be around at least >> during purge. > > Ah yes of course, sorry. I was referring to the remove phase, where it > is also not present, although policy s

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Dec 06 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 11:44:39AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Making a package essential in order to avoid a if clause in >> postinsts is very likely too frivolous a reason to pass muster, yes. > > I do not want to avoid the if-claus

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Dec 06 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > Actually the point is what a random package should do if it is beeing > purged in order to undo what it has done on installation in the > corner-case when ucf is beeing removed. Remove your files, and make a best effort attempt to call oth

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:48:44 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: >On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 12:39:28PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: >> the right solution here would be to fix it so that it did, not to add >> it to Essential. > >On a side note, I thought the right solution was to integrate the ucf >functional

Bug#559688: ITP: pescetti -- Bridge Pseudo-duplimate generator

2009-12-06 Thread Matthew Johnson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matthew Johnson X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Source package: pescetti Binary package(s): pescetti Version: 0.5-1 Licence: GPL-2 Author: Matthew Johnson Homepage: http://www.matthew

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 06:12:24AM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > Not wanting to start another flame war, but ... > > On Sa, 05 Dez 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > > The crux is the last point. For a good reason postrm must not require > > tools it depends on to be around when removing the pac

Re: is it ok to listen on a localhost port for tests during build time?

2009-12-06 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:56:37AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Serafeim Zanikolas > > | The service supports no authorisation/authentication and, as of now, has no > | way of limiting the size of inserted messages. Would it be acceptable if I > | were to patch the tests to accept connectio

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi, On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 11:43:28AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > This is where things break down. ucf --purge does not do what > you think it does, it by no means removes the configuration files. You > remove the configuration files, not ucf. It seems that I expressed myself uncl

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hello, On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 08:35:38PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> > I never said that. The problem are not the files owned by the package, > >> > but the files owned by ucf, which are modified by ucfr, while not > >> > restoring the changes if ucf is not around. > >> > >> Well

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 12:39:28PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > There's no reason that ucf *should* fall under either of these rules; so > even if ucf /didn't/ work the way it does, the right solution here would be > to fix it so that it did, not to add it to Essential. Makes sense. But how do y

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 11:44:39AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Making a package essential in order to avoid a if clause in > postinsts is very likely too frivolous a reason to pass muster, yes. I do not want to avoid the if-clause. I want to avoid leaving modified files around when r

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Neil Williams | > * foo 1.0 ships /etc/foo.conf with | > featureA=yes | > featureB=no | > * I change featureB to yes | > * foo 2.0 ships /etc/foo.conf with | > featureA=yes | > featureB=no | > featureC=7 | > * Now dpkg ask if I want the new version or my modified one. But what | >

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 05:41:14PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > It is beginning to make some sense but the problems do not outweigh the > (frankly wishlist) benefits so far outlined. If the package isn't > buggy, it won't need a model No, not really. The package can be perfectly fine and still be

Re: is it ok to listen on a localhost port for tests during build time?

2009-12-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Serafeim Zanikolas | The service supports no authorisation/authentication and, as of now, has no | way of limiting the size of inserted messages. Would it be acceptable if I | were to patch the tests to accept connections only from the localhost? | (implies a potential risk of a local user att

Bug#559681: ITP: flapjack -- scalable and distributed monitoring system

2009-12-06 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Serafeim Zanikolas * Package name: flapjack Version : 0.tag.0.5 Upstream Author : Lindsay Holmwood * URL : http://flapjack-project.com * License : BSD Programming Lang: Ruby Description : scalable and distributed

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Norbert Preining
On So, 06 Dez 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > So, policy does not require dependencies to be around at least > during purge. Ah yes of course, sorry. I was referring to the remove phase, where it is also not present, although policy states it. Best wishes Norbert ---