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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:28:52 +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> OoO Pendant le temps de midi du mercredi 30 décembre 2009, vers 12:03,
> Gabor Gombas disait :
>
>>> If this is a real question, put:
>>> 127.0.1.1 fqdn nodename
>>>
>>> This seems a very acceptable way to give a FQDN to your lapto
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 03:18:51PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> I prefer to alocate such host names in a real domain, and give them just TXT
> records or 127.0.1.1 A records in some weird cases where I can't trust the
> box to not do idiotic things like go to the DNS bypassing the li
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OoO Pendant le temps de midi du mercredi 30 décembre 2009, vers 12:03,
Gabor Gombas disait :
>> If this is a real question, put:
>> 127.0.1.1 fqdn nodename
>>
>> This seems a very acceptable way to give a FQDN to your laptop without
>> relying on network. hostname -f and programs using
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
>>> In truth, my laptop *does not have an FQDN*. The concept has no useful
>> It must have, POSIX provided a way for apps to query it, and apps
>> started doing that. So you need one. It will be an a
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> In truth, my laptop *does not have an FQDN*. The concept has no useful
> It must have, POSIX provided a way for apps to query it, and apps
> started doing that. So you need one. It will be an arbitrary one, but
Vincent Lefevre writes:
> On 2009-12-29 20:23:31 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> No, it's not. You have completely misunderstood the purpose of
>> /etc/mailname.
> No, this is what is documented. You should RTFM.
Er, yes, I have, several times. It's something that one does when one is
maintaini
Your question sounds like you want autotools to automatically rebuild
the intermediary files when ./configure detects the requisite
build-depends. I'd suggest discussing this autotools feature request
on the upstream lists instead of here.
>From the debian/rules side of things; there isn't yet any
Reinier Haasjes writes:
>> This doesn't help with any of your other dependencies, just the dependency
>> on debconf (or some other DCMS implementation).
> So if I understand correctly a (pre-)depend on host/dig won't help to
> make sure bind/dig is installed during the config script.
Correct.
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> there are several tools that generate C source code that is later
> complied in object code, e.g. yacc, lex or valac. automake defaults to
> distribute these built intermediate files, so they are usually not
> regenerated during a build.
[...]
> 1.
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Philipp Kern wrote:
> You don't switch to v6-only, you switch to dual stack IPv4+IPv6. One point
> being that with a v6-only host you're totally unable to reach IPv4 sites
> without the help of application-level proxies.
That's false. You can use protocol-level gateways, whi
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > In truth, my laptop *does not have an FQDN*. The concept has no useful
>
> It must have, POSIX provided a way for apps to query it, and apps started
> doing that. So you need one. It will be an arbitrary one, but that's fine.
Better c
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2009-12-29 17:44:31 +0100, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
> > Mutt in testing/unstable use /etc/mailname.
>
> But not the official Mutt version.
Who lets you configure the correct domain you want it to use for email
addresses in its config files, although
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > If this is a real question, put:
> > 127.0.1.1 fqdn nodename
>
> I think we're having some sort of fundamental misunderstanding or
> communications gap here. What FQDN do you think I should put there?
> Should I just make something up, like laptop.russ
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In article <20091229135244.gc26...@xvii.vinc17.org> you wrote:
> When the machine is correctly configured (i.e. really has a FQDN),
> "hostname -f" is reliable. But note that this is Debian-specific.
It is not. It is net-tools specific, hostname -f uses gethostbyname. If you
only want the node nam
Hello,
On Wed 30 Dec 2009 2:07:16 Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
I am curious why ssh+screen can't do the job? It would be much more
secure than telnet. It would be nice to add a note in the package
description.
Also it is much more "à la unix" to use two tools together to do one
job, each one doing one
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:09:51 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Indeed, I was doubly wrong. It is ‘dget -x’, not ‘dpkg-source -x’ that refuses
> to unpack signed packages whose key is not available.
JFYI: This can be changed by setting
DGET_VERIFY=no
in ~/.devscripts .
Cheers,
gregor
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On 2009-12-30 11:56:13 +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:31:25PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > Then you need to configure your machine according to the spec, i.e.
> > you need a single FQDN / canonical name / official name of the host.
>
> If getaddrinfo(AI_CANONNAME) fai
On 2009-12-29 20:23:31 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I'm having a hard time figuring out what you think the canonical name of
> my laptop could possibly be, given that it has no static IP address and no
> DNS entry.
It doesn't need to have a static IP, nor a DNS entry.
> In practice, it's whatever
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:12:41AM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 2009-12-29, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > It's not "hypothetical". IPv4 sucks so badly compared to IPv6 that once you
> > switch your internal hosts to v6-only, you don't want to go back.
>
> You don't switch to v6-only, you switch to
Le Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 01:46:08PM +0100, Andreas Metzler a écrit :
> Charles Plessy wrote:
>
> > Indeed I was wrong: dpkg-source will refuse to unnpack a package
> > that is signed but the key is not available locally, however it will
> > accept to unpack a package that is not signed.
>
> Works
* Benjamin Drung , 2009-12-23 22:01:
JDownloader is open source (…)
(…) JDownloader is absolutely free of charge (…)
You don't need to include this in a package description (hint: DFSG).
This package contains only a dektop file and a script, which will download and
launch the current JDownload
Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:27:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit :
>> Charles Plessy writes:
[...]
>> > given that 1) dpkg-source will not extract
>> > packages that are not GPG-trusted,
>> Eh? I'm fairly sure it does for me, although it prints a warning.
> Indeed I was w
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Le Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:27:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit :
> Charles Plessy writes:
>
> > There were some concerns that applying patches through debian/rules
> > could be a security hole. In my opinion – that I already expressed in
> > the DEP1 discussion – given that 1) dpkg-source will no
On 2009-12-29, Adam Borowski wrote:
> It's not "hypothetical". IPv4 sucks so badly compared to IPv6 that once you
> switch your internal hosts to v6-only, you don't want to go back.
You don't switch to v6-only, you switch to dual stack IPv4+IPv6. One point
being that with a v6-only host you're
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 08:37:21AM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> If this is a real question, put:
> 127.0.1.1 fqdn nodename
>
> This seems a very acceptable way to give a FQDN to your laptop without
> relying on network. hostname -f and programs using a similar inner
> working will be ab
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 02:36:12AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> BTW, Debian defines /etc/mailname as containing the FQDN. So,
> this notion is explicitly defined on Debian, and one should
> expect "hostname -f" to return the same name (according to its
> documentation).
What makes you think th
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:31:25PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> Well, the node name is unique. From that, you'll obtain the FQDN with
> either the obsolete function gethostbyname or the new POSIX function
> getaddrinfo (by using the AI_CANONNAME flag). POSIX says:
>
> If the AI_CANONNAME fla
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 05:13:29PM +0900, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> But my goal is the opposite: I want to *force* automake to regenerate
> the files, and preferably not even include them in the distribution.
The reason to include the autogenerated files is that while most UNIX based
platforms co
On Dec 30, "Bernhard R. Link" wrote:
> > > I routinely blacklist the ipv6 module. There are far too many
> > > programs breaking or doing stuff I do not want if it is loaded.
I call bullshit on this.
> a) netstat garbling the addresses of connected endpoints
This is one of the reasons why bindv
> This doesn't help with any of your other dependencies, just the dependency
> on debconf (or some other DCMS implementation).
>
So if I understand correctly a (pre-)depend on host/dig won't help to
make sure bind/dig is installed during the config script.
My idea now is the following:
config-scr
* Ben Hutchings [091229 19:26]:
> > I routinely blacklist the ipv6 module. There are far too many
> > programs breaking or doing stuff I do not want if it is loaded.
>
> I trust you have filed bugs on these applications?
No, on most I have not. I don't believe anyone only having ipv6 right
now so
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:50:40PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Patrick Schoenfeld writes:
>
> > Debconf or another tool that implements the Debian Configuration
> > Management Specification will also be installed, and any versioned
> > dependencies on it will be satisfied before preconfiguration
Michael Tautschnig writes:
>> there are several tools that generate C source code that is later
>> complied in object code, e.g. yacc, lex or valac. automake defaults to
>> distribute these built intermediate files, so they are usually not
>> regenerated during a build.
>
> Why do you restrict t
Serafeim Zanikolas writes:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 03:23:21AM +0900, Ansgar Burchardt wrote [edited]:
>> there are several tools that generate C source code that is later
>> complied in object code, e.g. yacc, lex or valac. automake defaults to
>> distribute these built intermediate files, so
Hi,
> Another good solution would be to get the brokers list in the
> config/preinst (and ask which one to use) if bind or host are already
> there (the common case) and to get the list in the postinst if the
> information has not already been gotten.
I think this won't be such a bad solution. It
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