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Re: Invite to join the Release Team

2010-03-31 Thread Micah Anderson
Clint Adams sch...@debian.org writes: [Adding and M-F-T-ing -project] On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:04:58AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: I want to point out that Luk's mail was not in any way discussed in the release team. I think it is horrible. I welcome everyone to critize the

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org wrote:   Description     : debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build Package: dh-autoreconf I'd suggest just putting this into debhelper rather than making it a separate package. -- bye, pabs

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010, Sven Mueller wrote: Julien BLACHE schrieb: Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: I expect this to be of particular interest when we'll have VCS-powered source formats (say 3.0 (git2quilt)) that generate source packages that are plain 3.0 (quilt) based on the

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Ben Finney
James Westby jw+deb...@jameswestby.net writes: The unpacked source package has no format, it's a directory on disk with certain properties. You could take that directory and produce a source package in any number of formats. The debian/source/format is then not a declaration of what format

Re: Naming policy for Perl modules (mass bug filing)

2010-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Luke L lukehasnon...@gmail.com wrote: Philosophical question: When does this sort of thing get taken care of? In twenty years, will Debian (if it's still going) have myriad misnamed libraries? I know one can Shouldn't housecleaning like this be of higher

Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:24 PM, John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 09:02:59AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:03 AM, John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org wrote: 1. workstation running sid I used that until DebConf9 when I reinstalled and

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 31 mars 2010 à 08:18 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : I agree. dpkg-dev should not be depending on any VCS and it should not promote any particular VCS either. I know that git is the new black (oh, wait, that was something else), but I personally don't like it. And I

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-31 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Now, should the technician not be able to resurrect ries, our backup plan extends to have the disks shipped over and replace the ones currently in rietz. I'm wondering if Debian has the resources (DSA, local admins and hardware) to have a hot-swappable backup machine for ftpmaster, since it

Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-03-31 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 30. März 2010, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote: squid! (Or any other normal http proxy. I don't recommend any apt-proxy solution...) Can you explain why? apt-proxy had issues when I tried (as well as others, which I cannot rememeber now), approx iirc requires to

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 02:07:31PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Package: dh-autoreconf I'd suggest just putting this into debhelper rather than making it a separate package. Seconded. The addons looks quite general, I don't see the point of having it in a separate package. Cheers. -- Stefano

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Niels Thykier
Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 31 mars 2010 à 08:18 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : I agree. dpkg-dev should not be depending on any VCS and it should not promote any particular VCS either. I know that git is the new black (oh, wait, that was something else), but I personally don't like

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org wrote: The only trouble this setup has is that you have a pretty huge expensive machine always on and running, but not actually doing stuff for 99.% of the time. And usually the support pack we ordered provides a

Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-03-31 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 02:44:48PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: I'm having a bit of trouble visualizing how that works; can you spell out your apt settings? Something like this (not my exact settings): Package: * Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 700 Package: * Pin: release a=testing

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Niels Thykier wrote: That being said, I would (as it is now) actually prefer that it was just a helper tool that from a VCS could derive a source package of existing format. That would probably also increase the adoption rate, since existing tools would work with those

Bug#576006: ITP: qtwebkit -- Web content engine library for Qt

2010-03-31 Thread Fathi Boudra
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Fathi Boudra f...@debian.org Owner: Fathi Boudra f...@debian.org * Package name: qtwebkit Version : 2.0 Upstream Author : Apple Inc. * URL : http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/QtWebKit * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-31 Thread Simon Josefsson
Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org writes: Now, should the technician not be able to resurrect ries, our backup plan extends to have the disks shipped over and replace the ones currently in rietz. I'm wondering if Debian has the resources (DSA, local admins and hardware) to have a hot-swappable

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-31 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 09:35:59AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: I'm wondering if Debian has the resources (DSA, local admins and hardware) to have a hot-swappable backup machine for ftpmaster, since it does go down occasionally and when it does the downtime is fairly disruptive to Debian.

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:18:30AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Niels Thykier wrote: That being said, I would (as it is now) actually prefer that it was just a helper tool that from a VCS could derive a source package of existing format. That would probably also

Hadoop in Debian, was:Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org

2010-03-31 Thread Thomas Koch
Joerg Jaspert: SNIP The only trouble this setup has is that you have a pretty huge expensive machine always on and running, but not actually doing stuff for 99.% of the time. /SNIP Hadoop is now in Debian: http://packages.qa.debian.org/h/hadoop.html Hadoop is an Open Source

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 02:07:31PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org wrote:   Description     : debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build Package: dh-autoreconf I'd suggest just putting this into

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread James Vega
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 08:47:28PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:18:30AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Niels Thykier wrote: That being said, I would (as it is now) actually prefer that it was just a helper tool that from a VCS could

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 03:13:14PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org wrote: Description : debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build Package: dh-autoreconf I'd suggest

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org wrote: Description : debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build Package: dh-autoreconf I'd suggest just putting this into debhelper rather than making it a separate

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Julian Andres Klode wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 03:13:14PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org wrote: Description : debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build Package:

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Mittwoch, den 31.03.2010, 15:45 +0200 schrieb Mehdi Dogguy: Julian Andres Klode wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 03:13:14PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org wrote: Description : debhelper add-on to

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 03:45:14PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Julian Andres Klode wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 03:13:14PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org wrote: Description : debhelper add-on to

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 31/03/2010 15:45, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: I do use autoreconf and I don't have these changes in my diff. Do you remove the modified files in your clean target ? (removed files will be ignored when creating the diff but you need to list them explicitely in debian/rules: this is what I do

Bug#576018: ITP: narval -- An Ada framework for Distributed Acquisition Systems

2010-03-31 Thread xavier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: xavier xavier.gr...@ipno.in2p3.fr * Package name: narval Version : 1.10.1 Upstream Author : Xavier Grave xavier.gr...@ipno.in2p3.fr * URL : http://narval.in2p3.fr * License : GPL v2+ Programming Lang: Ada Description

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Julian Andres Klode wrote: IMO, a backup/restore script (where you specify the list of files to backup) may be more useful. It would be called before build and when cleaning. I don't think so, it requires you to keep track of the files and you may miss some. OTOH,

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Julian Andres Klode wrote: A 'debuild; debuild' should have a different result than a single debuild then. If you build from a clean directory, the first build will contain no changes. But after the build, the directory is not clean anymore and debian/rules clean does not do enough to keep the

Bug#576029: ITP: angband-audio -- Non-free sound files for the angband game

2010-03-31 Thread Chris Carr
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Chris Carr ranting...@gmail.com * Package name: angband-audio Version : 3.1.0 Upstream Author : Dubtrain angb...@dubtrain.com * URL : http://www.dubtrain.com/angband * License : CC BY-NC-SA Programming Lang: n/a

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Niels Thykier
Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 02:03:09PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: [...] In the general case, switching is a small effort for sure, but in the case pointed out by Neil (he won't convert packages with no patches because he doesn't see the benefit) the effort is almost null,

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 04:46:00PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Julian Andres Klode wrote: A 'debuild; debuild' should have a different result than a single debuild then. If you build from a clean directory, the first build will contain no changes. But after the build, the directory is not

Advice needed on howto take care about /usr/share/pyshared/scikits

2010-03-31 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Dear Debianizers, NB. I have asked similar question at debian-python [1] but had no replies, so re-posting to -devel now I am ITPing python-scikits-learn and possibly few other python-scikits-* packages in the future. All of the packages would have 1 peculiarity, they all would rely on

Re: Hadoop in Debian, was:Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org

2010-03-31 Thread Obey Arthur Liu
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Thomas Koch tho...@koch.ro wrote: Joerg Jaspert: SNIP The only trouble this setup has is that you have a pretty huge expensive machine always on and running, but not actually doing stuff for 99.% of the time. /SNIP Hadoop is now in Debian:

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Julian Andres Klode wrote: A backup and restore approach is a completely different and more complicated (in I/O sense) way than just deleting the files; e.g. for a single file: … except that they do not operate on the same set of files. dh_backup's list would be a lot smaller than

Bug#576079: ITP: ngsolve -- Finite Element Library on top of Netgen

2010-03-31 Thread trophime
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: trophime troph...@calcul8.lcmi.local * Package name: ngsolve Version : 4.9.12 Upstream Authors : Joachim Schöberl et al. * URL : http://www.mathcces.rwth-aachen.de/netgen/doku.php * License : LGPL Programming Lang: C++

Bug#576080: general: missing ftp://ftp.upload.debian.org/pub/UploadQueue/README

2010-03-31 Thread Osamu Aoki
Package: general Severity: normal We have moved UploadQueue to: ftp://ftp.upload.debian.org/pub/UploadQueue/ But new URL is missing ftp://ftp.upload.debian.org/pub/UploadQueue/README Thus poliy document has missing link. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-03-31 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Hi, On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 07:03:00PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: 2a. pbuilder pbuilder, or some other chroot such as schroot, can help. In theory, it is a good plan. I don't have to dedicate a lot of RAM to it. The problem is that a chroot doesn't establish terribly strict separation

Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-03-31 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Filippo Giunchedi] pbuilder sets up /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d to exit 101 so if a daemon starts out of your control (e.g. with /etc/init.d/daemon start) you have found a bug somewhere in a package, no? I've not seen daemons randomly starting lately. Well, one point of a non-sid system with a

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-31 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Replying to three in one. Well, this would mean: a) double ftpmaster. Just as a rough number, the new machine that is currently in progress has an estimated cost of 2 Dollar (if you take prices from HP Website. This is not what it will cost in the end, but it shows what

Bug#576088: ITP: libphp-swiftmailer -- component-based library for sending e-mails

2010-03-31 Thread Nicolas Roudaire
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nicolas Roudaire nikro...@gmail.com Owner: Nicolas Roudaire nikro...@gmail.com * Package name: libphp-swiftmailer Version : 4.0.6 Upstream Author : Chris Corbyn * URL : http://swiftmailer.org/ * License : LGPL

Re: Bug#575938: ITP: dh-autoreconf -- debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

2010-03-31 Thread Axel Beckert
Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is there any advantage to have it packaged? AIUI, you have to add a build-dependency anyway and change at least one line in the debian/rules to call dh-autoreconf. Well, that line could simply call autoreconf (or whatever) which even makes debian/rules

Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-03-31 Thread Simon Paillard
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 08:46:01AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: On Dienstag, 30. März 2010, Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote: squid! (Or any other normal http proxy. I don't recommend any apt-proxy solution...) Can you explain why? apt-proxy had issues when I tried (as well as

Processed: reassign 576080 to ftp.debian.org

2010-03-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: reassign 576080 ftp.debian.org Bug #576080 [general] general: missing ftp://ftp.upload.debian.org/pub/UploadQueue/README Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'ftp.debian.org'. thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need

Re: Hadoop in Debian, was:Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org

2010-03-31 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Obey Arthur Liu said: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Thomas Koch tho...@koch.ro wrote: I believe, but can't know for sure, that everything what FTP-Master does, could be implemented on top of hadoop. However it means for sure a lot of work and many hardcore

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-31 Thread Jens Peter Secher
On 30 March 2010 16:46, Sven Mueller deb...@incase.de wrote: My main reason for not yet switching is that hg-buildpackage and svn-buildpackage don't completely support the 3.0 format yet as far as I can tell. You can try out mercurial-buildpackage, where I have tried to support 3.0 (quilt) as

Bug#576128: ITP: otcl -- an extension to Tcl/Tk for object-oriented programming

2010-03-31 Thread syq
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: syq wzss...@gmail.com * Package name: otcl Version : 1.13 Upstream Author : David Wetherall d...@lcs.mit.edu * URL : http://otcl-tclcl.sourceforge.net/otcl/ * License : BSD, MIT/X Programming Lang: C, TCL