Re: Directories named after packages

2011-01-06 Thread Miles Bader
Russ Allbery writes: > I'm hesitant to recommend moving the documentation to /usr/share/doc/foo > when we've always put it in a directory named after the package in the > past; I'm afraid long-time Debian users won't be able to find it. I'd certainly be confused! Being able to just look in /usr/

Bug#609172: ITP: libvendorlib-perl -- Package to enforce only core and vendor perl module usage

2011-01-06 Thread Nicholas Bamber
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nicholas Bamber * Package name: libvendorlib-perl Version : 0.05 Upstream Author : Rafael * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/vendorlib/ * License : perl Programming Lang: perl Description : Package to enforce o

Re: Directories named after packages

2011-01-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson writes: > Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Directories named after packages"): >> See http://bugs.debian.org/106073 and the discussion there. Wording >> proposals very welcome. > OMG it's from 2001 ... Yeah, it's almost old enough that I can blame you for the fact that it wasn't specified

Re: devel files and libraries in /lib

2011-01-06 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Roger Leigh schrieb: > Well, they end up on / to give you /games, /include, /local, /share > and /src. Because /usr is a symlink to /, these are still accessible > as /usr/games, /usr/include etc. for full backward compatibility. If it's just about getting rid of two (lib|bin|sbin) dirs, why

Re: devel files and libraries in /lib

2011-01-06 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Bernhard R. Link schrieb: > They do not only include the library in question, but they include many > other libraries. As paths supplied by the user are searched in before > anything in the system path, this changes the order the system paths are > searched in. > This can both hide a user supli

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2011-01-06 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Olaf van der Spek schrieb: > A transaction to update multiple files in one atomic go? Yes. The application first starts an transaction, creates/writes/ removes a bunch of files and then sends a commit. The changes should become visible atomically and the call returns when the commit() is compl

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2011-01-06 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > To come back to the original question, I'd like to know which concrete > realworld problems should be solved by that. One thing an database-like > transactional filesystem (w/ MVCC) would be nice is package managers: > we still have the probl

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2011-01-06 Thread Enrico Weigelt
> Getting people to believe that you can't square a circle[1] > is very hard, Just allow an infinite number of steps and it's almost trivial ;-) > It's like trying teaching a pig to sing. Well, that works, just sounds a bit like vogon poetry ;-o > If you give me a specific approach, I can t

Re: Directories named after packages

2011-01-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Directories named after packages"): > Ian Jackson writes: > > > For example, there has been a recent trend for FOO's documentation > > package FOO-doc to contain /usr/share/doc/FOO-doc/html/index.html (or > > whatever). I think this is daft. It should be in > > /usr/sh

Re: Directories named after packages

2011-01-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson writes: > For example, there has been a recent trend for FOO's documentation > package FOO-doc to contain /usr/share/doc/FOO-doc/html/index.html (or > whatever). I think this is daft. It should be in > /usr/share/doc/FOO/html/index.html. That way you can find the > documentation fo

Re: Directories named after packages

2011-01-06 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 02:54:38PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Many of the bits of the policy manual, and informal practice, suggest > naming directories after your package. > ... > In general, the principle should be that where to look in the > filesystem for something should not depend on h

Directories named after packages

2011-01-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Many of the bits of the policy manual, and informal practice, suggest naming directories after your package. I just wanted to make a point that perhaps hasn't been entirely clear: when we say that you should name the directory after your package, you should think carefully about what aspect of and

Bug#609121: ITP: nflog-bindings -- High-level bindings for libnetfilter_log

2011-01-06 Thread Pierre Chifflier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Pierre Chifflier * Package name: nflog-bindings Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Pierre Chifflier * URL : https://www.wzdftpd.net/redmine/projects/nflog-bindings/wiki/ * License : GPLv3 Programming Lang: C, Python, Per

squeeze will not have googleearth-package

2011-01-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, so googleearth-package was removed from squeeze, because of a RC bug, which was fixed on mentors.d.n for 4 days already when it was removed. Sadly the maintainer didnt ask for sponsorship on the mentors-list, so his uploaded was not noticed immediatly. Then, 605959 asking for its removal w

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2011-01-06 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Ted Ts'o wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:57:07AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >>> Ted Ts'o writes ("Re: Safe File Update (atomic)"): >>> > Then I invite you to implement it, and start discovering all of

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2011-01-06 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Ted Ts'o wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:57:07AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >> Ted Ts'o writes ("Re: Safe File Update (atomic)"): >> > Then I invite you to implement it, and start discovering all of the >> > corner cases for yourself.  :-)  As I predicted, you're

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2011-01-06 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Ted Ts'o [110105 19:26]: > So one of the questions is how much should be penalizing programs that > are doing things right (i.e., using fsync), versus programs which are > doing things wrong (i.e., using rename and trusting to luck). Please do not call it "wrong". All those programs doing is no

Re: Safe File Update (atomic)

2011-01-06 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:54 AM, Ted Ts'o wrote: >> I was thinking, doesn't ext have this kind of dependency tracking already? >> It has to write the inode after writing the data, otherwise the inode >> might point to garbage. > > No, it doesn't.  We use journaling, and forced data writeouts, to >

Bug#609097: RFP: scannedonly -- scalable samba anti-virus module

2011-01-06 Thread Falk Hackenberger
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: scannedonly Version: 0.21 Upstream Author: Olivier sessink o...@users.sourceforge.net] URL: http://olivier.sessink.nl/scannedonly Lic