On Sun, 4 Nov 2012, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> > Linux/open source developers are usually not interested in fixing bugs if
> > they cannot easily reproduce them. This problem plagues virtually all
> > Open Source projects.
>
> Well in proprietary software you are usually required to blindly purchas
* Ian Jackson , 2012-08-06, 16:15:
The following package pairs:
1) are co-installable,
2) both ship binaries with the same name, but in different directories
within $PATH (e.g. one in /usr/bin, another in /usr/sbin):
sethdlc: ax25-tools dahdi
crm: crm114 pacemaker
cutter: cutter-testing-framew
Andrey Rahmatullin writes:
> On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 08:53:24PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>> And if he doesn't like the answers, there are plenty of other operating
>> systems to choose from.
> This is dangerously close to "if you think these are problems, just use
> a different OS, we are fin
On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 03:23:06AM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 08:53:24PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > > Don't feed the troll.
> > > It's not trolling.
> > > It's a honest list of problems which a lot of developers don't view as
> > > problems.
> > He should use
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 08:53:24PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > Don't feed the troll.
> > It's not trolling.
> > It's a honest list of problems which a lot of developers don't view as
> > problems.
> He should use the BTS like everyone else.
A lot of things can't be expressed in a form of a bu
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 09:53:53PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > > Don't feed the troll.
> > It's not trolling.
> > It's a honest list of problems which a lot of developers don't view as
> > problems.
>
> It's not. If he was serious, he wouldn't be citing articles from 2007.
Do that
Hi Karol,
Karol Szkudlarek wrote:
> I'm Debian/Ubuntu/Linux enthusiasts which loves using free operating
> systems on my machines, but today in 2012 I'm struggling with many
> problems with setup/tunning my Dell Latitude E6510 and Ubuntu and I
> have some thoughts general thoughts about Linux lac
Hello!
Ben Hutchings has written on Saturday, 3 November, at 19:30:
>Don't feed the troll.
I believe that was not trolling but rather list of what every good
developer should pay attention - especially moments that give biggest
inconveniences for the users. At least from my experience I
Hello!
Salvo Tomaselli has written on Saturday, 3 November, at 20:36:
>> Linux/open source developers are usually not interested in fixing bugs if
>> they cannot easily reproduce them. This problem plagues virtually all Open
>> Source projects.
>Well in proprietary software you are usually re
On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 01:56:08AM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 07:30:00PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > Don't feed the troll.
> It's not trolling.
> It's a honest list of problems which a lot of developers don't view as
> problems.
It's not. If he was serious, he w
On Sun, 2012-11-04 at 01:56 +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 07:30:00PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > Don't feed the troll.
> It's not trolling.
> It's a honest list of problems which a lot of developers don't view as
> problems.
He should use the BTS like everyone else
On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 12:05:23AM +0400, Игорь Пашев wrote:
> These are not *linux* problems.
If you mean just the kernel, a large part of the list is comprised of
kernel problems.
> 2012/11/3 Andrey Rahmatullin
>
> > On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 07:30:00PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > Don't fe
These are not *linux* problems.
2012/11/3 Andrey Rahmatullin
> On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 07:30:00PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > Don't feed the troll.
> It's not trolling.
> It's a honest list of problems which a lot of developers don't view as
> problems.
>
> --
> WBR, wRAR
>
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 07:30:00PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> Don't feed the troll.
It's not trolling.
It's a honest list of problems which a lot of developers don't view as
problems.
--
WBR, wRAR
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On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 08:36:51PM +0100, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> > Distros' repositories do not contain all available open source software
> well given that on github there are several toy projects, or projects made
> for
> courses that are completely useless for the users and abandoned in a fe
Hello,
> In my opinion is a objective view of desktop linux problems and I
> would like to show it in Debian environment which always was (and is)
> a mission to create solid rock
> software.
That list is quite questionable. For example:
> Linux/open source developers are usually not interested
Don't feed the troll.
Ben.
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Ben Hutchings
I'm always amazed by the number of people who take up solipsism because
they heard someone else explain it. - E*Borg on alt.fan.pratchett
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On Sat, 2012-11-03 at 19:35 +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 3 novembre 2012 15:15 CET, Ben Hutchings :
>
> >> I can now disable DAD, or insert "sleep 10" at the top of
> >> /etc/init.d/unbound, but neither is an acceptable solution.
> >>
> >> IPv6 has been a release goal for years and we are a
On Sat, 2012-11-03 at 18:29 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Ben Hutchings [2012.11.03.1515 +0100]:
> > int one = 1;
> > setsockopt(sock, IPPROTO_IP, IP_FREEBIND, &one, sizeof(one));
> > bind(sock, ...);
> >
> > Or we set the net.ipv4.ip_nonlocal_bind sysctl globally, but t
]] Thomas Goirand
> Are the hooks in /etc/network/if-{down,post-down,up,pre-up} only for
> ipv4? If so, shouldn't it be extended to also support v6, and unbound
> (patched to) use it? I can see that bind9 has:
The hooks are just called for ifup-ed interfaces, not when addresses
come and go throu
❦ 3 novembre 2012 15:15 CET, Ben Hutchings :
>> I can now disable DAD, or insert "sleep 10" at the top of
>> /etc/init.d/unbound, but neither is an acceptable solution.
>>
>> IPv6 has been a release goal for years and we are about to release
>> another Debian version that does not properly cat
Hello All,
I'm Debian/Ubuntu/Linux enthusiasts which loves using free operating
systems on my machines, but today in 2012 I'm struggling with many
problems with setup/tunning my Dell Latitude E6510 and Ubuntu and I
have some thoughts general thoughts about Linux lacking and problems.
And in the i
also sprach Ben Hutchings [2012.11.03.1515 +0100]:
> int one = 1;
> setsockopt(sock, IPPROTO_IP, IP_FREEBIND, &one, sizeof(one));
> bind(sock, ...);
>
> Or we set the net.ipv4.ip_nonlocal_bind sysctl globally, but this is
> probably not a good idea. (Note that 'v4' there is not
also sprach Thomas Goirand [2012.11.03.1714 +0100]:
> Are the hooks in /etc/network/if-{down,post-down,up,pre-up} only
> for ipv4?
They run after bringing IPv6 interfaces up but most of the time
before DAD completed.
--
.''`. martin f. krafft Related projects:
: :' : proud Debian dev
On 11/03/2012 06:24 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> wheezy will be the first Debian release to feature dependency-based
> booting (insserv). I just finished installing a very simple gateway
> (IPv4 and IPv6) for a customer, and unbound is failing to start
> during a regular boot.
>
> Th
On Fri, 2012-11-02 at 23:24 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> wheezy will be the first Debian release to feature dependency-based
> booting (insserv). I just finished installing a very simple gateway
> (IPv4 and IPv6) for a customer, and unbound is failing to start
> during a regular
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