Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 08:35:22AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Sorry, but I wouldn't touch code with a ten-feet pole who from someone > is so naive claiming that he knows more about writing an open source > BIOS than the people at Coreboot who have been doing that since > 1999. I star

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 12:52:47PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 11/25/2012 12:15 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > They're constantly claiming, for example, that udev and systemd break > > a separate /usr partition which is simply not true. > I believe you've been reading too much L. Po

Re: release goal for jessie! (Source-only uploads

On 25/11/12 00:00, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Thomas Goirand debian.org> writes: Though I'm in the favor of dropping binaries rather than source-only, This could even help the cases of packages that need itself to be built. When a packager does a source+binary upload of foo (= 1.2-1), it would

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

On 11/25/2012 12:15 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > They're constantly claiming, for example, that udev and systemd break > a separate /usr partition which is simply not true. I believe you've been reading too much L. Poettring. Yes, lots of udev stuff are moving to /usr, and this is a fact.

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:29:51PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:17:35PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 07:20:02PM +0100, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/RaringUpstartUs

Re: the right bug severity in case of data corruption

On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > This however leads to irrecoverable data corruption, as the partial > quoting of so called From_ lines cannot be undone anymore. > An easy solution for that dilemma is known for years, namely the other > mbox formats (either mboxrd, mboxcl or m

Re: release goal for jessie! (Source-only uploads

Thomas Goirand debian.org> writes: > Though I'm in the favor of dropping binaries rather than source-only, This could even help the cases of packages that need itself to be built. When a packager does a source+binary upload of foo (= 1.2-1), it would be built in a clean, minimal chroot (yes, I’

Bug#694278: ITP: gpg-remailer -- GnuPG-enabled remailer for mailing lists

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: tony mancill * Package name: gpg-remailer Version : 2.53.0 Upstream Author : Frank Brokken * URL : https://www.icce.rug.nl/debian/remailer * License : GPLv3 Programming Lang: C++ Description : GnuPG-enabled remai

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 22:46:29 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:28:46PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > > waitid is supported on FreeBSD. > > Are you sure? According to their status page [1] it's not yet fully > implemented. The page is dated to last October.

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)

Le samedi 24 novembre 2012 à 18:25 +, Steve McIntyre a écrit : > Please drop the systemd propaganda crap. We get enough of that from > Lennart already. OTOH we also get quite enough of FUD from people who don’t know what systemd is but don’t want us to use it. -- .''`. Josselin Mouett

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:28:46PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > > waitid is supported on FreeBSD. Are you sure? According to their status page [1] it's not yet fully implemented. The page is dated to last October. Adrian > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html -- .''`. John Pa

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 20:29:51 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > While reading a bit on it, I found this passage: > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:17:35PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > By making use of a Linux-specific prctl(2) call, we effectively tie > > Upstart to systems ru

Re: the right bug severity in case of data corruption

* Christoph Anton Mitterer [121124 17:42]: > I've recently reported several bugs against MUAs and mail tools, that > employ the mboxo (note the trailing "o") format to either store or > import mails. > So,... bringing this up here at d-d, as I think it would be good for > Debian to have a well th

Re: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 02:26:34PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:02:18AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > > * Package name: linux-minidisc > > > > Thats a strange name considering it bu

Re: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, 00:26:34 LHST, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:02:18AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > > * Package name      : linux-minidisc > > > > Thats a strange name considering it bu

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:17:35PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> By making use of a Linux-specific prctl(2) call, we effectively tie >> Upstart to systems running with a Linux kernel. This is a major >> restriction, but porting to other systems is

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:17:35PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 07:20:02PM +0100, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/RaringUpstartUserSessions > > This is actually going to be very interesting to see if they are

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 07:20:02PM +0100, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/RaringUpstartUserSessions This is actually going to be very interesting to see if they are able to extend upstart in such a way that they can use it for session management si

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

Hello! Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez has written on Saturday, 24 November, at 19:20: >FYI, Yet another episode of the Linux init drama: >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/RaringUpstartUserSessions >https://plus.google.com/115547683951727699051/posts/ZZWLtq6tYdn It is only me

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)

Adrian wrote: > >If both Ubuntu and Gentoo would just go with the rest of the community >and accept systemd, we wouldn't have to bother whether udev runs >without systemd or not. Please drop the systemd propaganda crap. We get enough of that from Lennart already. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK

Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

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Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 04:58:04PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: >> I, for one, wholeheartedly welcome the fork, as I hope that this will >> help getting back some of the modularity in Linux that was there, once >> upon a time, and which contributed to making Linu

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 06:03:02PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 05:15:25PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > If both Ubuntu and Gentoo would just go with the rest of the community > > and accept systemd, we wouldn't have to bother whether udev runs > > without s

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 05:15:25PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > If both Ubuntu and Gentoo would just go with the rest of the community > and accept systemd, we wouldn't have to bother whether udev runs > without systemd or not. I would highly prefer a system where I can take small b

the right bug severity in case of data corruption

Hi. I've recently reported several bugs against MUAs and mail tools, that employ the mboxo (note the trailing "o") format to either store or import mails. This however leads to irrecoverable data corruption, as the partial quoting of so called From_ lines cannot be undone anymore. An easy solutio

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Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 04:58:04PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > > This thread was originally about udev, yet everyone is starting again the > > systemd / upstart / sysv-rc war. I think we can agree that we don't about > > I, for one, wholeheartedly welcome the fork, as I hope that this will > help

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems (was: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev)

Hi, On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 02:09:51AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 11/14/2012 11:12 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > The full thread is here: > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/2262 > This thread was originally about udev, yet everyone is starting again the > systemd / ups

Bug#694173: ITP: gdnsd -- authoritative domain name server

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Faidon Liambotis * Package name: gdnsd Version : 1.6.9 Upstream Author : Brandon L Black * URL : https://github.com/blblack/gdnsd * License : GPLv3 Programming Lang: C Description : authoritative domain name serve

Bug#694157: ITP: kerkerkruip -- interactive fiction roguelike game

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: kerkerkruip Version: 6 Upstream author: Victor Gijsbers Maintainer: Dannii Willis URL: https://github.com/i7/kerkerkruip Licence: GPL3+ Description: Kerkerkruip is a dungeon crawling game that brings tog

Re: release goal for jessie! (Re: Source-only uploads

]] Gunnar Wolf > Didier Raboud dijo [Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:21:19PM +0100]: > > Actually, I like that way to put it as it leaves us with multiple ways > > forward: > > > > * accept source-only; > > * drop uploaded binaries; > > I would join this camp as well. Without the working knowledge of