On 04/23/2013 11:48 AM, Laszlo Kajan wrote:
Dear Russ, Debian Med Team, Charles!
(Please keep Tobias Hamp in replies.)
@Russ: Please allow me to include you in a discussion about a few
bioinformatics packages that depend on big, but free data [2]. I have cited
your opinion [3] in this
Olivier Sallou olivier.sal...@irisa.fr writes:
Indeed, many bioinformatics programs relies on external data. But I am afraid
that if we start to add some data packages, we will open an endless open
door BioInformatics datasets are large, and becoming huge and numerous.
This size will be an
Le mardi, 23 avril 2013 12.23:23, Andreas Tille a écrit :
I would even go that far that it might make sense to package these data
and upload it to demonstrate that we should *really* create a solution
for such cases if they will increase in the number and size of data
packages.
Isn't that
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:32:52AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Le mardi, 23 avril 2013 12.23:23, Andreas Tille a écrit :
I would even go that far that it might make sense to package these data
and upload it to demonstrate that we should *really* create a solution
for such cases if
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 09:38:14AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Well yes, but if you do even small things such as generate the
package manually instead of using debhelper, prepare to be shouted
at by the British Cabal with threats of using superpowers to remove
such packages from Debian.
Hi Bill and Debian Developers,
while doing work on GD Library 2.1.0 it was discovered there's
encoding incompatibility introduced by libjpeg8/9 [1]. While doing
further research I have found that Fedora has switched to
libjpeg-turbo[2] (for reasoning please read the referred email).
Ubuntu (and
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:23:04AM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
A. Add libjpeg-turbo to Debian archive (that's easy)
Not really (especially if you want it to ship libjpeg.so.* too).
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On 23/04/13 10:48, Laszlo Kajan wrote:
free packages that depend on big (e.g. 400MB) free data outside 'main'
This comes up in the Games Team, too.
Here are some possibilities you might not have considered:
* Package a small demo data-set (enough to test that the package is
working
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:30:46 +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:23:04AM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
A. Add libjpeg-turbo to Debian archive (that's easy)
Not really (especially if you want it to ship libjpeg.so.* too).
We have a plenty of libraries (and other packages)
Package: wnpp
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On 04/22/2013 06:09 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
#690381
Gosh, what a shocking thread...
I didn't read until end, but nearly at half of it, it felt bad already.
Thorsten, you should have kept your custom debian/rules. If it
prevented incompetent developers from NMUing the package, then all
good
Hi Ondřej,
I have just uploaded libjpeg-turbo to Debian and it still hovers in NEW [1].
On Mi 24 Apr 2013 11:23:04 CEST Ondřej Surý wrote:
Debian has already open ITP[3] #602034 for libjpeg-turbo, which
support libjpeg62 API/ABI and also some important bits of libjpeg8. As
libjpeg is one of
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Owner: HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai) d...@debian.org
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:23:04AM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
Hi Bill and Debian Developers,
My proposal is:
A. Add libjpeg-turbo to Debian archive (that's easy)
B. Add required provides/alternatives for libjpeg62-dev and
libjpeg8-dev (where API/ABI match)
C. Decide which package should
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* URL : http://www.alexdantas.net/projects/yetris/
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Programming
Hi Olivier!
On 24/04/13 08:20, Olivier Sallou wrote:
On 04/23/2013 11:48 AM, Laszlo Kajan wrote:
Dear Russ, Debian Med Team, Charles!
(Please keep Tobias Hamp in replies.)
@Russ: Please allow me to include you in a discussion about a few
bioinformatics packages that depend on big, but
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Franck Routier a...@mecadu.org
* Package name: base91
Version : 0.6.0
Upstream Author : Joachim Henke he...@gmx.de
* URL : http://base91.sourceforge.net/
* License : BSD
Programming Lang: C
Description : base91
Hello Didier!
On 24/04/13 09:32, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Le mardi, 23 avril 2013 12.23:23, Andreas Tille a écrit :
I would even go that far that it might make sense to package these data
and upload it to demonstrate that we should *really* create a solution
for such cases if they will
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Bill Allombert
bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr wrote:
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:23:04AM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
Hi Bill and Debian Developers,
My proposal is:
A. Add libjpeg-turbo to Debian archive (that's easy)
B. Add required provides/alternatives for
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:48:48PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote:
C. Decide which package should provide default libjpeg-dev library
Last statement from Bill: libjpeg by IJG
The current IJG has nothing to do with the IJG that originally created JPEG.
The last activity of original IJG was in
* Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi, 2013-04-22, 13:22:
Thorsten, you should have kept your custom debian/rules. If it
prevented incompetent developers from NMUing the package, then all
good for you and for Debian.
Was there perhaps some emoticon missing?
Sorry, yes, this one:
:/
On 04/24/2013 04:02 PM, Laszlo Kajan wrote:
Hello Didier!
On 24/04/13 09:32, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Le mardi, 23 avril 2013 12.23:23, Andreas Tille a écrit :
I would even go that far that it might make sense to package these data
and upload it to demonstrate that we should *really*
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 04:25:42PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
* Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi, 2013-04-22, 13:22:
Thorsten, you should have kept your custom debian/rules. If it
prevented incompetent developers from NMUing the package, then
all good for you and for Debian.
Was there
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 05:01:50PM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote:
Libjpeg-turbo website [3] has all the signs of an healthy open source
project - A SVN repo with many commiters, bug tracker, a mailing list
with open discussion etc.
libjpeg-turbo is also used by webkit, blink, and gecko.
Mike
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On 04/24/2013 05:23 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote:
Hi Bill and Debian Developers,
while doing work on GD Library 2.1.0 it was discovered there's
encoding incompatibility introduced by libjpeg8/9 [1]. While doing
further research I have found that Fedora has switched to
libjpeg-turbo[2] (for
On 04/24/2013 10:39 PM, Neil McGovern wrote:
I'm sorry, but can I just clarify: do you think that it's an advantage
that your custom debian/rules prevents others from understanding your
package?
Neil
I don't think anyone ever wrote that. Jakub was quite clear, IMO.
If you are scared by echo
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:12:33PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Just being curious... Is the -turbo called this was because it's faster?
How much faster is it then?
Hi, Thomas,
The very first hit on the duckduckgo.com search engine for search
expression libjpeg-turbo (not including the quotes)
Hello Simon!
Thank you for these suggestions.
On 24/04/13 13:06, Simon McVittie wrote:
On 23/04/13 10:48, Laszlo Kajan wrote:
free packages that depend on big (e.g. 400MB) free data outside 'main'
This comes up in the Games Team, too.
Here are some possibilities you might not have
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:19:48PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 04/24/2013 10:39 PM, Neil McGovern wrote:
I'm sorry, but can I just clarify: do you think that it's an advantage
that your custom debian/rules prevents others from understanding your
package?
I don't think anyone ever
On 04/25/2013 12:10 AM, Neil McGovern wrote:
If you're deliberately obfuscating debian/rules when there's no or very
little advantage, then you shouldn't be producing the package.
I'm not the one claiming that using echo and cat is obfuscation!
Thomas
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On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 01:25:00AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 04/25/2013 12:10 AM, Neil McGovern wrote:
If you're deliberately obfuscating debian/rules when there's no or very
little advantage, then you shouldn't be producing the package.
I'm not the one claiming that using echo and cat
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes:
Agreed. Especially when I see that this:
echo .nr g 2 | cat - cpio.1 | \
gzip -n9 debian/pax/usr/share/man/man1/paxcpio.1.gz
is called obfuscation, then doom it as unacceptable for the archive.
I'm generally in favor of using standardized
Hi!
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 09:38:14 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Adam Borowski kilobyte at angband.pl writes:
It can be done
Well yes, but if you do even small things such as generate the
package manually instead of using debhelper, prepare to be shouted
at by the British Cabal with
Neil McGovern ne...@debian.org writes:
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:19:48PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
If you are scared by echo x | cat - y, that it prevents you from
understanding the rules files, then you shouldn't touch the package
anyway.
If you're deliberately obfuscating debian/rules
Neil McGovern ne...@debian.org writes:
Perhaps you should go read the bug report first. As you seem to be
unwilling to actually do research, I'll include the relevant section for
your benefit:
-
1: deliberate obfuscation for no benefit:
echo .nr g 2 | cat - cpio.1 | \
gzip
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:05:30PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
For the record, I completely disagree with this packaging advice. Why
carry an upstream patch when you can handle this easily during build time?
As much as I dislike quilt, at least it makes it easy to see what
change Debian is
Hi!
On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 11:05:29 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
[...]. IMO this is why upstream packaging should be
embraced and enhanced rather than focusing on dpkg.
I'm not sure if you refer to the tool here, or to the packaging work,
doesn't change much anyway.
I once worked on the 'pkgme'
Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi writes:
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:05:30PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
For the record, I completely disagree with this packaging advice. Why
carry an upstream patch when you can handle this easily during build
time?
As much as I dislike quilt, at least it makes it
+1 to everything Guillem said. I particularly want to emphasize this
part:
Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org writes:
On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 11:05:29 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
Where Debian's efforts should be focused is on things like license
verification and helping bug reports and fixes get
Hi Alexandre,
Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 20:09 -0300 schrieb Alexandre Dantas:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Alexandre Dantas alex.danta...@gmail.com
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* URL
❦ 24 avril 2013 13:08 CEST, Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org :
We have a plenty of libraries (and other packages) who do conflict
between themselves, so we know the drill.
Also Debian no longer ships libjpeg62, so there's not conflict there
at least for baseline implementation (libjpeg62
Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org writes:
❦ 24 avril 2013 13:08 CEST, Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org :
We have a plenty of libraries (and other packages) who do conflict
between themselves, so we know the drill.
Also Debian no longer ships libjpeg62, so there's not conflict there
at least for
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On 04/25/2013 01:52 AM, Neil McGovern wrote:
Perhaps you should go read the bug report first. As you seem to be
unwilling to actually do research, I'll include the relevant section for
your benefit:
-
1: deliberate obfuscation for no benefit:
echo .nr g 2 | cat - cpio.1 | \
Le Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:52:36PM -0400, Neil McGovern a écrit :
1: deliberate obfuscation for no benefit:
Hi everybody,
Can everybody please avoid to guess or propagate guesses on other persons
motivations ?
I think that a discussion can not be constructive if it contains statements
that
On 23/04/2013 23:15, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Joachim Breitner nomeata at debian.org writes:
The (luxury) problem is that I got used to it and began uploading the
new (and NEW) dependency bar of package foo along with the new version
of foo (instead of uploading bar first, wait for NEW
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 03:11:53PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
We have a plenty of libraries (and other packages) who do conflict
between themselves, so we know the drill.
Also Debian no longer ships libjpeg62, so there's not conflict there
at least for baseline implementation (libjpeg62
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 03:19:59PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
As IJG libjpeg maintainer, my plan is to move to libjpeg9 which has more
feature.
Only the applications that actually want to experiment with libjpeg8/9 ABI
should be using it -
The 100% of current applications that work just
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Maintainer: Emmanuel Bouthenot kol...@debian.org
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Urgency: low
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Maintainer: Kenneth J. Pronovici prono...@debian.org
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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Kenneth J. Pronovici prono...@debian.org
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Kenneth J. Pronovici prono...@debian.org
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:53:58 -0400
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Version: 1.08-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Chris Lawrence lawre...@debian.org
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:34:16 -0400
Source: clamav
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 03:58:02 +0200
Source: kismet
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 2013.03.R1b-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Nick Andrik nick.and...@gmail.com
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Source: debian-history
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Bdale Garbee bd...@gag.com
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Source: mongodb
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Distribution: unstable
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