Marco d'Itri md at Linux.IT writes:
On May 07, Игорь Пашев pashev.igor at gmail.com wrote:
What about merging / and /usr ?
Absolutely not, and I’ll support a GR against it.
I strongly support the everything in /usr scheme, but let's first
Absolutely not, and I’ll support a GR against
On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:31:55 PM Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Matt Zagrabelny mzagrabe at d.umn.edu writes:
epochs never go away - AIUI. They detract from meaningful information
in the version string.
So do changelogs. But it’s not that hard to mentally strip away a
leading [0-9]+: in a
On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:19:18 PM Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Matt Zagrabelny mzagrabe at d.umn.edu writes:
Use the mechanism of really:
That is *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much*
*much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* more ugly than epochs
and actually a
Am 08.05.2013 00:19, schrieb Thorsten Glaser:
Matt Zagrabelny mzagrabe at d.umn.edu writes:
Use the mechanism of really:
That is *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much*
*much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* more ugly than epochs
and actually a prime
Am 07.05.2013 17:46, schrieb Julian Taylor:
On 05/07/2013 03:25 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
...
== binutils ==
binutils 2.23.2 will be uploaded to unstable after GCC 4.8 as the
default on x86 reaches testing. Later updates will introduce binutils
trunk leading to 2.24, later this year.
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Antoine Beaupré anar...@debian.org
* Package name: breakin
Version : 3.20
Upstream Author : Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com, Kyle Sheumaker
ksheuma...@advancedclustering.com
* URL :
On Tue, 07 May 2013 19:46:43 +0200
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2013 16:46:46 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
On May 07, Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org wrote:
My stated goal here is, indeed, to be able to run at least some useful
configurations of
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 10:18:25PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Игорь Пашев pashev.igor at gmail.com writes:
What about moving default location for applications to /export ?
/run is a catastrophe, although an understandable one.
Is there anything specific that's wrong with it? Is there
* Wookey woo...@wookware.org [130507 23:31]:
The tradeoff is:
1) (Move _all_ headers to /usr/include/triplet)
* Much duplication of installed headers
* Only one system include dir, which fits current build-system
expectations
Which would also punish the libraries getting headers
On May 07, Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de wrote:
What about merging / and /usr ?
So we really want to explicitly not offer an upgade path from wheezy
to jessie?
This causes no major issues on upgrades, Fedora did it.
The hard part is replacing with a symlink to the other one of every
Scott Kitterman wrote:
The really mechanism is useful for derivatives that don't want to get a
higher epoch than Debian, but in Debian, I totally agree. Just because it
makes sense for a derivative, doesn't mean it makes sense for Debian.
It makes sense for Debian, too. Epochs were
Am 07.05.2013 17:48, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 03:25:29PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
Up to today jessie did see updates for the kernel headers, eglibc, and
GCC.
What a wonderful coordination with the release team. Quoting the last
mail from them on the mailing list:
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:39:25AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
Am 07.05.2013 17:48, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 03:25:29PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
Up to today jessie did see updates for the kernel headers, eglibc, and
GCC.
What a wonderful coordination with
On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 15:03 -0400, Barry Fishman wrote:
On 2013-05-07 13:20:02 EDT, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 11:14:23AM -0400, Barry Fishman wrote:
1) This bug is a month old and due to a Debian patch which was rejected
by the upstream kernel team.
Perhaps you
Hi,
On 07/05/13 14:25, Matthias Klose wrote:
== (e)glibc 2.17 ==
We had hoped that leaving
it FTBFS in experimental for several months and gently pinging [...]
That was a bit unexpected, and I haven't seen it brought up on
debian-bsd@ until now.
== GCC 4.8 ==
It is planned to only keep
I'm not happy how the architecture qualification for wheezy did go (as
communicated in the session about the status of the release at DebConf 2012). I
did criticize the attitude of the release team as overly optimistic (green
light attitude), and I do see that at least GCC and binutils don't have
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:59:38AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
They weren't coordinated within the team. Furthermore I don't consider
that eglibc was ready to go to unstable, as it was known that two
architectures were going to FTBFS, without a real try to get that fixed
(for example by
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 06:35:16PM -0600, Adam Conrad wrote:
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:59:38AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
They weren't coordinated within the team. Furthermore I don't consider
that eglibc was ready to go to unstable, as it was known that two
architectures were going
On May 07, Matt Zagrabelny mzagr...@d.umn.edu wrote:
First, is there a consensus or quorum that believes that unnecessary
epochs is undesirable?
Among reasonable people, I'd say yes.
Epochs are like herpes: once you have one on your package it's going to
be around forever. So try to avoid them
But either way, the problem is that .dsc and .deb version numbers are
not used only by dpkg. Lots of tools use them, inside and outside of
Debian packages, inside and outside of Debian infrastructure. We
cannot be sure that they all use dpkg's own interfaces to do so (e.g.
dpkg
Am 08.05.2013 02:31, schrieb Matthias Klose:
gabrielli as the porter box is now up again, but I don't see any real support
for mips, mipsel, s390, sparc, and maybe powerpc within Debian. Please
consider
toolchain maintenance when starting the architecture qualification for jessie.
forgot to
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 01:39 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
[...]
- I didn't upload linux-libc-dev myself, but until today I didn't
see any announcement or a test rebuild done by the Debian kernel
maintainers, so I did add the note about what I did see in multiple
packages when doing a
On 05/08/2013 05:55 AM, Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
Hello world,
I've grepped the d-d list, but didn't find any threads regarding
fixing epochs in package versions.
First, is there a consensus or quorum that believes that unnecessary
epochs is undesirable?
I think they are necessary and
+++ Wookey [2013-05-07 22:31 +0100]:
The tradeoff is:
1) (Move _all_ headers to /usr/include/triplet)
* Much duplication of installed headers
* Only one system include dir, which fits current build-system
expectations
2) (Move only arch-dependent headers to /usr/include/triplet)
+++ Wookey [2013-05-07 22:31 +0100]:
[right. 3rd attempt at getting this email to make sense. reposting the
whole thing this time, hopefully with no remaining howlers]
+++ Stephen Kitt [2013-05-07 14:38 +0200]:
Hi Wookey,
On Tue, 7 May 2013 03:04:50 +0100, Wookey woo...@wookware.org wrote:
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:59:38AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
(b) It's completely useless on a Debian system, as the kernel doesn't
support x32 binaries.
Is there a big reason to not enable CONFIG_X86_X32 in default kernels?
It doesn't seem to have more downsides than your average kernel
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 09:46:02AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
What I think should be fixed is the fact that it doesn't
appear in the filename. I never understood why they
don't. Did I miss something?
Having a colon in CD/DVD images is likely to cause problems, with the chance
of breakage
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 05:15 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:59:38AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
(b) It's completely useless on a Debian system, as the kernel doesn't
support x32 binaries.
Is there a big reason to not enable CONFIG_X86_X32 in default kernels?
Matt Zagrabelny wrote :
is there a consensus or quorum that believes that unnecessary epochs is
undesirable?
I don't think so. Package maintainers may have different views of the meaning
of unnecessary in this context.
could we add a field to debian/control such as Supersede-Epoch. After
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 05:27:01AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 09:46:02AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
What I think should be fixed is the fact that it doesn't
appear in the filename. I never understood why they
don't. Did I miss something?
Having a colon in
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