On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Chow Loong Jin hyper...@debian.org wrote:
On 17/05/2013 01:01, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote:
Patch releases are NOT available as zip files and the list of
wrongdoings is long:
- Patch releases are only available from the git repository
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le jeudi 16 mai 2013 à 17:35 -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
I have a C shared library that takes a pointer to an opaque struct as
the first argument to most of its API calls. The internal layout of
that opaque struct is changing (to add new members).
Le 16/05/2013 18:37, Russ Allbery a écrit :
You could, in theory, switch to DNSSEC, but now you're just replacing
one CA cartel with another.
Except that with DNSSEC (and DANE), the number of people you have to
trust is much smaller.
Right, it depends on what your risk model is. If
On Monday 13 May 2013 11:26 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 05/13/2013 03:06 PM, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
1) Duplicate bug reports: There are high possibilities that we could see
a sudden increase in the number of bug reports, many duplicates. This is
something I'm not sure how we want to
Le 16/05/2013 20:40, Russ Allbery a écrit :
What am I missing?
I suppose one thing that I could be missing is that, with a certificate,
you have no privacy controls over what metadata you release. Whatever you
put in the certificate is visible to anyone who looks at the certificate.
(Well,
On Mon, 13 May 2013 02:31:02 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
Maybe kfreebsd will do, but as I explained at FOSDEM I plan to make udev
depend on either upstart or systemd.
I would rather not be the one who will choose which one of them, so
I hope that we will get to a consensus about
Hi,
On Fri, 17 May 2013, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
That is a good point. Thanks Thomas. We could submit apport reports with
the tag Apport and instruct reportbug to forward the report to
pack...@qa.debian.org.
This way we avoid the flood of bug reports in general while at the same
time the
Hi.
Philip Hands p...@hands.com writes:
Do you have any thoughts on how that compares with using
BrowserID/Persona? I'd got the impression that BrowserID has been put
together learning from mistakes of OpenID WebID, but perhaps I'm just
swallowing their marketing.
AFAIU, I guess that,
Quoting Stéphane Glondu (2013-05-17 08:14:13)
Le 16/05/2013 18:37, Russ Allbery a écrit :
You could, in theory, switch to DNSSEC, but now you're just
replacing one CA cartel with another.
Except that with DNSSEC (and DANE), the number of people you have
to trust is much smaller.
Hi.
Sorry to be a bit late in the discussion.
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
I'd never heard of WebID before this thread, but looking briefly at the
spec, I share Daniel's concerns. I don't see how this eliminates reliance
on the normal CAs. You still have to do certificate
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk writes:
Quoting Russ Allbery (2013-05-16 18:37:06)
but it's not clear to me why we'd bother as opposed to just issuing
client X.509 certificates with the metadata already included.
Because the very separation of
Hi again.
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
I can understand why you may want to externalize the metadata if you have
no control over the certificate creation process and therefore can't put
metadata directly in it. I don't understand what you gain (other than
complexity) by
Le vendredi 17 mai 2013 07:17:48, Guillem Jover a écrit :
(…) I agree dlopen()ing shared libraries in general should not
be supported (I'd even go further and say this should be outright
banned, given the pain it causes, and optional library support should
always be implemented by loading a
Hi again.
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk writes:
Quoting Russ Allbery (2013-05-16 19:57:59)
Sure, but if you have control over the server certificate and are tying
the server certificate to the user certificate via some mechanism like
Monkeysphere, why
On 17/05/2013 13:17, Guillem Jover wrote:
Yeah that should be the case, the dynamic linker should not be
loading the same SONAME multiple times, so there should be no race
here, and I agree dlopen()ing shared libraries in general should not
be supported (I'd even go further and say this should
Quoting Russ Allbery (2013-05-16 22:24:34)
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk writes:
Quoting Russ Allbery (2013-05-16 19:57:59)
Sure, but if you have control over the server certificate and are
tying the server certificate to the user certificate via some
mechanism like Monkeysphere, why
Hi again.
Just in case it helps a bit more, let me forward you this message from
Andrei Sambra, a Debian user and WebID working group member (who's also
the developer of MyProfile, a killer demo service of WebID at [1]
- project/code at [0]).
Andrei read the thread an wanted to provide some
On Monday 13 May 2013 11:14:07 Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
There have been previous discussions how to fix this[2]. The dpkg
maintainers would like to treat changelogs and copyright files as
metadata and move them out of /usr/share/doc[3].
[2]
On 17/05/13 10:43, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
On 17/05/2013 13:17, Guillem Jover wrote:
I agree dlopen()ing shared libraries in general should not be
supported (I'd even go further and say this should be outright
banned, given the pain it causes, and optional library support
should always be
Hi Marc,
On Freitag, 17. Mai 2013, Marc Haber wrote:
We're going to have a TC decision or a GR about this anyway.
why do you think so?
cheers,
Holger
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Le vendredi 17 mai 2013 13:40:13, Dominique Dumont a écrit :
This may be a dumb question, but looking at this example of different
binNMU changelogs [1], I wonder what is the point of having a log specific
to each build system ...
In other word, can't we have a binNMU log generated by
On 2013-05-17, Simon McVittie s...@debian.org wrote:
dlopen()'d. However, GNU/anything and Windows (and also Mac OS, I
think) are among the platforms where either works, so in practice most
You can't link plugins on windows, I'm told.
/Sune
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Le 17/05/2013 13:50, Simon McVittie a écrit :
According to libtool documentation, on some platforms this distinction
is really significant, and real shared libraries can't be
dlopen()'d. However, GNU/anything and Windows (and also Mac OS, I
think) are among the platforms where either works, so
Le 17/05/2013 14:18, Sune Vuorela a écrit :
On 2013-05-17, Simon McVittie s...@debian.org wrote:
dlopen()'d. However, GNU/anything and Windows (and also Mac OS, I
think) are among the platforms where either works, so in practice most
You can't link plugins on windows, I'm told.
Indeed. Some
On 2013-05-07 14:23:47 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
Shells suitable for /bin/sh are currently bash, dash, mksh.
I forgot about that (partly because of workarounds), but due to the
SIGINT problem, I think that *currently*, among these 3 shells, bash
is the most suitable one, and mksh is a bit
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 14:14:20 +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
Also, it wouldn't help for the case of a binNMU on a subset of all arches
since only some of them would have the entry. The solution proposed by ansgar
cover this case.
No it doesn't. dpkg will still refuse to install a m-a
Le vendredi 17 mai 2013 15:36:02, Julien Cristau a écrit :
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 14:14:20 +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
Also, it wouldn't help for the case of a binNMU on a subset of all arches
since only some of them would have the entry. The solution proposed by
ansgar cover this
On 17/05/2013 19:50, Simon McVittie wrote:
On 17/05/13 10:43, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
On 17/05/2013 13:17, Guillem Jover wrote:
I agree dlopen()ing shared libraries in general should not be
supported (I'd even go further and say this should be outright
banned, given the pain it causes, and
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonathan Wiltshire j...@tiger-computing.co.uk
* Package name: unittest-xml-reporting
Version : 1.4.3
Upstream Author : Daniel Fernandes Martins
* URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/unittest-xml-reporting
* License :
Le 17/05/2013 15:45, Chow Loong Jin a écrit :
But how do you load a plugin without using dlopen()?
[...]
Okay, so real shared libraries can't be dlopen()'d on some systems, and
plugins
still have to be dlopen()'d. That doesn't answer my question, really.
It kind of does, actually :-) You
Stéphane Glondu glo...@debian.org writes:
Le 16/05/2013 18:37, Russ Allbery a écrit :
Right, it depends on what your risk model is. If you're defending
against incompetence and/or commercial greed overriding security
practices, DNSSEC looks a lot more appealing than the CA cartel, since
ober...@debian.org writes:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
I'd never heard of WebID before this thread, but looking briefly at the
spec, I share Daniel's concerns. I don't see how this eliminates
reliance on the normal CAs. You still have to do certificate
validation to be able to
Le 17/05/2013 17:43, Russ Allbery a écrit :
[...]
4. Hijack that metadata identity request so that it goes to their server
instead of mine. This can be done in any number of ways (DNS cache
poisoning, compromise of www.eyrie.org, compromise of my account on
www.eyrie.org, TCP active
Stéphane Glondu glo...@debian.org writes:
Le 17/05/2013 17:43, Russ Allbery a écrit :
[...]
4. Hijack that metadata identity request so that it goes to their server
instead of mine. This can be done in any number of ways (DNS cache
poisoning, compromise of www.eyrie.org, compromise of
Hi.
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
ober...@debian.org writes:
I'm not sure I understand all aspects of the recent evolutions of the
WebID auth protocols nor the big picture, but my understanding is that
to auth to a server using a WebID (i.e. a URI pointing to a RDF document
which
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 01:10:06PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:21:33PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:03:34AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
I think that, to convince people that flexibility won't cause stability
and complexity
On 17/05/13 17:36, Olivier Berger wrote:
The only way to prevent this attack in WebID that I see is to either do
leap-of-faith permanent caching [...] or
to secure the connection to my identity URI.
I wonder how OpenID, for instance, is supposed to resist to such
attacks, in comparison...
Olivier Berger olivier.ber...@it-sudparis.eu writes:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
ober...@debian.org writes:
I'm not sure I understand all aspects of the recent evolutions of the
WebID auth protocols nor the big picture, but my understanding is that
to auth to a server using a WebID
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes:
By way of context, OpenID originated on Livejournal as a way to have
federation between blogging platforms (e.g. other sites running the
Livejournal codebase). At the time, https was considered sufficiently
expensive that LJ didn't even use it to secure
On 05/14/2013 09:40 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Could you build a 32bit only, a 64bit only and a 32+64bit wine, run
make install for each case and generate a file list for each?
Including file output so it shows what is 32bit and what 64bit in
the mixed case.
I have these file lists now,
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 07:12:26PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
I can already say that it won't be binary identical to the 64+32 build,
because even the 64-bit standalone build isn't binary identical to the
64-bit side of a combined build (even though they're configured the
exact same way). I'm
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Andreas Beckmann wrote:
now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals
for jessie.
How about setting default umask for users (uid = 1000) to 002?
+1. It would be a useful default.
Bob
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On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Neil McGovern wrote:
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:29:11AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
Some upstreams have a testing branch of there software and a
release branch. It's sometimes useful to have people test the
version in from the testing branch, and having it
On 2013-05-16 at 14:12:33, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
It looks to me like BrowserID/Persona will only work in web browsers
with a functional javascript stack (and eventually, with a functional
javascript crypto stack). The client authentication happens inside the
TLS layer, over the HTTP
On 2013-05-17 at 10:08:20, Olivier Berger wrote:
AFAIU, I guess that, at least from the user-friendliness POV, the main
perceptible difference, is :
- OpenID uses a URL as a person's identifier : may or not be easily
copied/remembered/dictated
- WebID uses a URL too, same problems (there
Le Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:29:42PM -0600, Bob Proulx a écrit :
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Andreas Beckmann wrote:
now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals
for jessie.
How about setting default umask for users (uid = 1000) to 002?
+1. It would be a useful
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