On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 11:12:01PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
Surely, it should be an OPT-IN choice, not an OPT-OUT one? I'm talking
upgrades here, not new installs.
I have no clue why we are continuing to discuss this. The ctte
resolution says that the default init system for Linux
On 2014-09-07 18:35:55, quang wrote:
Package: general
Severity: normal
Dear Maintainer,
Recently I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie only to find a very annoying bug.
There is no sound on headphones, however the speakers still work fine. I
googled for answered (purge pulseaudio, delete
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 09:57:36 +1000, Brian May wrote:
As far as I can tell, this problem has been fixed. ftp-master didn't
respond, maybe it come good by itself?
No, they fixed it last week.
Cheers,
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, Axel Beckert wrote:
cleo is a utility for playing back pre-recorded shell commands in a
live demonstration. cleo displays the commands as if you had actually
typed them and then executes them interactively.
Will it run them anew, or just display the output from the
first
Adam Borowski wrote:
Noel Torres env...@rolamasao.org writes:
So, in your POV, forcing millions of sysadmins out there to take
extra pain to
keep their systems running as they expect is the way to go?
I think it's fair to expect the few hundred
Hi,
Thorsten Glaser wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, Axel Beckert wrote:
cleo is a utility for playing back pre-recorded shell commands in a
live demonstration. cleo displays the commands as if you had actually
typed them and then executes them interactively.
Will it run them anew, or just
Your message dated Mon, 8 Sep 2014 11:13:56 +0200
with message-id 201409081113.58841.hol...@layer-acht.org
and subject line Re: Bug#760734: general: no sounds on headphones
has caused the Debian Bug report #760734,
regarding general: no sounds on headphones
to be marked as done.
This means that
Le 06/09/2014 22:22, Jerome BENOIT a écrit :
Hello List,
I filled an ITA for guava [1]. Because it is rather a GAP package then a
stand alone software,
it would make more sense to rename it gap-guava: how can I rename its source
from guava to gap-guava ?
Note that the deb ball associated
* Tomas Pospisek t...@sourcepole.ch, 2014-09-06, 21:06:
Open a terminal and in the terminal write the following:
cd /tmp
echo #!/bin/sh foobar
echo touch foobar.touched foobar
chmod +x foobar
This is not a secure way to use /tmp.
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* Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org, 2014-09-08, 10:58:
Excuse me? Are you trying to use the fact that you and your stupid
friends are trolling about systemd all day long in order to justify
your own rants?
And I thought you couldn’t get any lower. You have a very good shovel.
OTOH, a
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On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 02:02:33PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
On the other hand, a non-GNOME wheezy user SHALL not
be upgraded to systemd, true.
That is contadicted by:
https://lists.debian.org/20140907151102.go21...@smurf.noris.de
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Hi,
At this point
the only viable option is to uncheck everything, install as a bare base
system and then deal with package inclusion post-install reboot.
This is also my experience. It's also something I repeatedly had to
explain to friends installing Debian, who had false expectations based
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On 09/08/2014 at 02:05 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 11:12:01PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
Surely, it should be an OPT-IN choice, not an OPT-OUT one? I'm
talking upgrades here, not new installs.
I have no clue why we
On 08/09/14 12:45, Ralf Jung wrote:
I tried to find out what tools are pulled
in by standard system utilities, but couldn't find the package in
aptitute.
The other tasks are packages (e.g. task-gnome-desktop), but
task-standard is special and does not exist as a package. Instead, it
contains
On Sunday, 7 de September de 2014 23:45:12 David Weinehall escribió:
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:37:12PM -0700, Cameron Norman wrote:
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Noel Torres wrote:
So we are clearly failing to follow the least surprise (for the
On 08/26/2014 06:37 PM, Mike Gabriel wrote:
For rebasing debian/patches/*.patch against new upstream releases, I
simply copy my tarball into the packaging Git, rebase the patches,
remove upstream sources again and commit the patches.
This is exactly why it's preferable to have upstream
On Sunday, 7 de September de 2014 16:11:02 Matthias Urlichs escribió:
Hi,
Chris Bannister:
If technically feasible, that would be a far better safety net (just
tell people to boot with init=/sbin/sysvinit if they run into a
problem) than an oh dear, it's so dangerous that we don't
Quoting David Weinehall (2014-09-08 00:45:12)
Most Debian systems aren't using sysvinit by active choice, but
because it was the default when they installed their machines, so this
argument doesn't really make sense.
We have no way of knowing how many of our users would have chosen I
want
On 08/09/14 14:44, Noel Torres wrote:
Example: having EMC Networker server softare for backups in a sysvinit
machine
is (relatively) easy, because the scripts for starting and stopping the
services are (quite) standard (but very complicated) sysv scripts.
systemd is compatible with LSB
On 08/09/2014 15:27, Noel Torres wrote:
On Sunday, 7 de September de 2014 23:45:12 David Weinehall escribió:
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:37:12PM -0700, Cameron Norman wrote:
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Noel Torres wrote:
So we are clearly failing to
Opening a new thread, trying to sum-up what's been said.
sum-up
It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced
users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and
there's no obvious way to know what will happen (other than looking at
the package source of
On 09/08/2014 07:45 PM, Ralf Jung wrote:
They are often surprised to find Exim on their
system just because they checked standard system utilities
Well, not only a mail server:
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Hi,
Vincent Danjean:
If I recall correctly, when Debian switched the default MTA, upgrades
did not change the already installed.
You cannot have an MTA without configuring it, and nobody even tried to
implement auto-migration of the old default mailer's configuration to the
new one. Also, we
On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 02:33:04PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
Ok, so let's quantify the view of sysadmins somehow.
This is a complete waste of time and I expect better of you in particular.
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Hi,
Having separate tasks for mail and NFS servers, would IMHO be a good
step in the right direction.
Yes. Though the design idea behind tasksel is to have generic theme
and not technical words which a user wont understand. (note: it's not
that I agree (or not) with this design choice,
Hi,
So, with what you're proposing, we'll have something like this:
│[*] Desktop environment │
│[*] ... Xfce│
│[ ] ... GNOME │
│[ ] ... KDE
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Someone already
proposed, in the wiki, to add Games. I like the idea a lot, and it
perfectly makes sense to select all games at once.
You might want to check the download size it would have first: some game
data packages are _big_ (~1GB for flightgear, ~400MB each for openarena
and wesnoth,
On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 09:39:05AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Note also that a few of those things (udev, adduser, and
libdevmapper1.02.1 for example) are likely to be on any non-chroot system
already since they're either dependencies of other things (such as grub
for libdevmapper1.02.1) or
On Sep 08, Ralf Jung p...@ralfj.de wrote:
I agree, this is a great improvement. I wonder though whether it is
justified to add SSH again? It is of course just a single package being
dragged in, but it is special in the sense that it's often used to
provide the very access to the machine.
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it wrote:
Agreed. It is very useful to have a working sshd on a new system
without having to use the console again to install it.
This sounds like an acceptable default for a server installation, but
for desktops maybe not so much. Is it
On 08/09/2014 18:07, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Hi,
Vincent Danjean:
If I recall correctly, when Debian switched the default MTA, upgrades
did not change the already installed.
You cannot have an MTA without configuring it, and nobody even tried to
implement auto-migration of the old
On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:07:18 +0200, Matthias Urlichs
matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Vincent Danjean:
If I recall correctly, when Debian switched the default MTA, upgrades
did not change the already installed.
You cannot have an MTA without configuring it, and nobody even tried to
implement
Quoting Vincent Danjean (2014-09-08 21:37:14)
On 08/09/2014 18:07, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Vincent Danjean:
If I recall correctly, when Debian switched the default MTA,
upgrades did not change the already installed.
You cannot have an MTA without configuring it, and nobody even tried
to
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License
You have a great piece of software. It is popular, so even included as
convenience code copies in other projects. You choose to clean that up
and package it separately.
...except it turns out that you cannot compile the code - source exist
as ActionScript3 but the free compiler in swftools
From reading the bug it's not clear to me whether or not libjs-mediaelement
does anything, but IMHO your tone towards the uploader seems unnecessarily
bullish and confrontational. In particular [1] strikes me as sacrificing any
moral high ground when it comes to BTS ping-pong.
[1]
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El lun, 8 de sep 2014 a las 9:07 , Matthias Urlichs
matth...@urlichs.de escribió:
Hi,
Vincent Danjean:
If I recall correctly, when Debian switched the default MTA,
upgrades
did not change the already installed.
You cannot have an MTA without configuring it, and nobody even tried
to
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Rebecca Palmer wrote:
Someone already
proposed, in the wiki, to add Games. I like the idea a lot, and it
perfectly makes sense to select all games at once.
That was me. We don't yet have a games-all metapackage in the games
blend, games-finest is probably a
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
sum-up
It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced
users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and
there's no obvious way to know what will happen (other than looking at
the package source
On Sep 09, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:
Isn't tasksel for people with no expectations? People who know
something about the technology they are looking for will install the
relevant packages instead of following tasksel recommendations.
Tasksel is not about recommendations: its purpose is
Hi Jonas,
On Montag, 8. September 2014, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I did not file a bugreport about that - where could I?
upgrade-reports seems to be the pseudo package you want. See
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=upgrade-reports :-)
cheers,
Holger
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On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
- database-server: commonly one would expect MySQL, and postgress gets
installed
[Paul Wise]
Isn't tasksel for people with no expectations? People who know
something about the technology they are looking for will install the
relevant
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 02:02:33PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
On the other hand, a non-GNOME wheezy user SHALL not
be upgraded to systemd, true.
SHOULD not, but currently is:
.--==[ dist-upgrade from a bare wheezy deboostrap ]
The following NEW packages will be installed:
acl
Am 09.09.2014 01:37, schrieb Adam Borowski:
This is easily fixable by adding such a dependency, or making things simpler
by dropping the sysvinit-core package at all, returning its contents back to
sysvinit. In fact, this whole split was done in a NMU by a systemd
maintainer, so no wonders
Quoting Jonathan Dowland (2014-09-08 22:52:21)
From reading the bug it's not clear to me whether or not
libjs-mediaelement does anything, but IMHO your tone towards the
uploader seems unnecessarily bullish and confrontational. In
particular [1] strikes me as sacrificing any moral high
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 02:05:52AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
Am 09.09.2014 01:37, schrieb Adam Borowski:
This is easily fixable by adding such a dependency, or making things simpler
by dropping the sysvinit-core package at all, returning its contents back to
sysvinit. In fact, this whole
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
sum-up
It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced
users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and
there's no obvious way to know what will happen (other
On 09/09/2014 02:45 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Sep 08, Ralf Jung p...@ralfj.de wrote:
I agree, this is a great improvement. I wonder though whether it is
justified to add SSH again? It is of course just a single package being
dragged in, but it is special in the sense that it's often used to
On 09/09/2014 06:21 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
sum-up
It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced
users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and
there's no obvious way to know what will happen
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close 760906
thanks
Silly me, this is already packaged :)
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