Le samedi 29 novembre 2014 à 16:37 +, Ivan Shmakov a écrit :
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
[…]
Desktops (not only GNOME) use a very tiny bit of systemd, interfaces
that could be provided elsewhere.
Is that “use” as in “if available” or is that actually
Hi,
Philip Hands:
It seems to me that we could:
Make systemd link runlevel 2 to graphical.target, and 3,4 5 to
multi-user.target, or perhaps in an attempt to be slightly less
confusing to outsiders, how about:
2 5 -- graphical
3 4 -- multi-user
Or we could simply pop
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le samedi 29 novembre 2014 à 16:37 +, Ivan Shmakov a écrit :
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
[…]
Desktops (not only GNOME) use a very tiny bit of systemd,
interfaces that could be provided elsewhere.
Is that “use” as in “if
❦ 30 novembre 2014 10:10 GMT, Ivan Shmakov i...@siamics.net :
Directly: DEs provide more useful features (especially power
management) with systemd but will work correctly without.
I see nothing in the ‘apcupsd’ changelog [1] (which is about the
only package related to power
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014, Vincent Bernat wrote:
A side-effect is that power management got a lot easier and reliable for
people not using GNOME, thanks to systemd.
As a XFCE user, I have to contradict this statement. It is still a
pain because xfce and systemd still don't act completely properly
I demand that Stephan Seitz may or may not have written...
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 02:41:23PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Nov 28, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:
a) Upgrades should _not_ change init: whatever is installed should be
kept.
I disagree: upgrades should get the
Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org writes:
❦ 30 novembre 2014 10:10 GMT, Ivan Shmakov i...@siamics.net :
[…]
Or does the above concerns the users of “normally battery-powered”
devices instead?
Previously, every DE would need to reimplement power management.
Now, this is handled by
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On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
working upstream
Are there any vendors of ARM-based devices who are doing that?
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Le dimanche 30 novembre 2014 à 12:50 +, Ivan Shmakov a écrit :
PolicyKit rely on logind to know if a user is locally connected. A
non-local user won't be allowed things like network management, local
device mounting or sound card access.
That looks like a problem to solve,
❦ 30 novembre 2014 12:50 GMT, Ivan Shmakov i...@siamics.net :
PolicyKit rely on logind to know if a user is locally connected. A
non-local user won't be allowed things like network management, local
device mounting or sound card access.
That looks like a problem to solve, not a
Hi,
Ivan Shmakov:
I agree that the issue gets trickier for multiuser hosts, but
I’m pretty sure that there still will be at least one user for
whom no such access restrictions should apply, – irrespective of
his or her “login locality.”
The access groups are still
* Darren Salt lists...@moreofthesa.me.uk [141130 14:17]:
I demand that Stephan Seitz may or may not have written...
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 02:41:23PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Nov 28, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:
a) Upgrades should _not_ change init: whatever is
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Balasankar C balasank...@autistici.org
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* License : Expat
Programming Lang: Ruby
On 11/30/2014 at 06:56 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote:
❦ 30 novembre 2014 10:10 GMT, Ivan Shmakov i...@siamics.net :
Directly: DEs provide more useful features (especially power
management) with systemd but will work correctly without.
I see nothing in the ‘apcupsd’ changelog [1] (which is
❦ 30 novembre 2014 14:53 +0100, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org :
That looks like a problem to solve, not a feature.
For home installs, I see no reason for the owner of the device
to be /denied/ access to the sound card just because of using
SSH. Why, it’s exactly
On Friday, 28 de November de 2014 07:45:29 Josselin Mouette escribió:
[...]
This is nothing short of bullying. If you want to help our users, you
can contribute to debianfork, or you can improve your packages in
Debian. But spreading your bitterness on development forums is only
about hurting
On Sunday, 30 de November de 2014 13:55:04 Vincent Bernat escribió:
❦ 30 novembre 2014 12:50 GMT, Ivan Shmakov i...@siamics.net :
PolicyKit rely on logind to know if a user is locally connected. A
non-local user won't be allowed things like network management, local
device mounting
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le dimanche 30 novembre 2014 à 12:50 +, Ivan Shmakov a écrit :
[…]
For home installs, I see no reason for the owner of the device to be
/denied/ access to the sound card just because of using SSH. Why,
it’s exactly what I do. (I even did
Hi,
The Wanderer:
Thus, having systemd provide power management would at best have no
effect, more likely increase the likelihood of power-management bugs
(and make documenting power-management behavior harder),
You're forgetting a few things here.
* The idea is for all the legacy code to go
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 15:59:06 +
Noel Torres env...@rolamasao.org wrote:
On Friday, 28 de November de 2014 07:45:29 Josselin Mouette escribió:
[...]
This is nothing short of bullying. If you want to help our users,
you can contribute to debianfork, or you can improve your packages
in
On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 21:48 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
working upstream
Are there any vendors of ARM-based devices who are doing that?
Most of the SoC vendors seem to be doing *some* work to get their chips
supported upstream, but I don't
Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de writes:
Hi,
Philip Hands:
It seems to me that we could:
Make systemd link runlevel 2 to graphical.target, and 3,4 5 to
multi-user.target, or perhaps in an attempt to be slightly less
confusing to outsiders, how about:
2 5 -- graphical
Am Sonntag, 30. November 2014, 18:05:54 schrieb Neil Williams:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 15:59:06 +
Noel Torres env...@rolamasao.org wrote:
[…]
Debian:
If you want to help our users, you
can contribute to debianfork, or you can improve your packages in
Debian. But spreading your
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Severity: wishlist
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Upstream Author : Dominique Dumont
* URL : https://metacpan.org/release/App-Cme
*
Le dimanche 30 novembre 2014 à 19:59 +0100, Martin Steigerwald a écrit :
You complain about people blaming Debian, or more exactly Debian technical
committee and GR decisions, for their decision to leave. Yes, it is anyone´s
decision to leave. No one to blame for it.
But that also works in
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Am Sonntag, 30. November 2014, 21:54:09 schrieb Josselin Mouette:
Le dimanche 30 novembre 2014 à 19:59 +0100, Martin Steigerwald a écrit :
You complain about people blaming Debian, or more exactly Debian technical
committee and GR decisions, for their decision to leave. Yes, it is
anyone´s
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Johan Van de Wauw johan.vandew...@gmail.com
* Package name: geopy
Version : 1.4.0
Upstream Author : Brian Beck, other contributors
* URL : https://github.com/geopy/geopy
* License : MIT
Programming Lang: Python
Hello!
I am at least pausing my work on fio, fsmark, as well as unreleased filebench
and atop 2.1 packaging work as I do not want to waste my energy with working
in what I perceive as a hostile environment.
I have been told to stop posting here and have even been moderated by a
listmaster for
On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
I have been told to stop posting here and have even been moderated by
a listmaster for expressing my truth. And I believe this to be
unjustified and not neutral.
Just for the record, listmaster@ has not moderated Martin. I have
personally warned
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 04:40:21PM +, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
* Other users only have access to audio devices through ACLs when
physically logged on.
Unless I be mistaken, ACLs are only applied at the time of
open(2). What about the
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014, Don Armstrong wrote:
Just for the record, listmaster@ has not moderated Martin. I have
personally warned him in regards to his recent content-less postings to
-devel in a private e-mail which was Cc:'ed to listmaster.
Which is a listmaster statement ... I told you already
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 02:10:09AM +0100, Andreas Bombe wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 04:40:21PM +, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
* Other users only have access to audio devices through ACLs when
physically logged on.
Unless I be mistaken,
Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at writes:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014, Don Armstrong wrote:
Just for the record, listmaster@ has not moderated Martin. I have
personally warned him in regards to his recent content-less postings to
-devel in a private e-mail which was Cc:'ed to listmaster.
Which is
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+1 Phil.
Norbert's and TG's mail in this year (not all mail but everyone following ML's
knows which one) are definition of bad behaviour that at least violates good
manners and should be sanctioned so others don't feel they can call out their
On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 11:42 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
Except that if a firewall protects a user from using their printer
(random example, not sure how likely)
Well most security guys are probably sceptical about any automagical
confiugration of things like a printer... so protects can
On 29/11/14 3:51 AM, Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org wrote:
Hi Tim,
I believe we already have that one:
https://packages.qa.debian.org/j/jffi.html
Thanks Emmanuel. You're correct of course. The rest of the jnr-* modules
require a big update (1.0.2 - 1.2.7) to the jffi package, but I
Forward for -devel convenience only, bug is already reassigned,
retitled, etc.
Andrei
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:54:15 +0100
From: Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net,
To: sub...@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#771592: TAG:
Control: reassign -1 wnpp
Control: severity -1 wishlist
Control: retitle -1 RFP: python-isoweek -- Python module to provide the class
Week
On Du, 30 nov 14, 22:54:27, Pander wrote:
Package: python-isoweek
Severity: RFP
See also and link to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1273829
Control: reassign -1 wnpp
Control: severity -1 wishlist
Control: retitle -1 RFP: tg -- Command-line interface for Telegram
On Du, 30 nov 14, 22:54:22, Pander wrote:
Package: tg
Severity: RFP
See also and link to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1284112
description: Command-line
Control: reassign -1 wnpp
Control: severity -1 wishlist
Control: retitle -1 RFP: python-nfc -- Python module to read/write NFC tags or
communicate with another NFC device
On Du, 30 nov 14, 22:54:31, Pander wrote:
Package: python-nfc
Severity: RFP
See also and link to
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