Re: Please, provide a fixed Cloud Image URL for Debian

2016-08-16 Thread Guido Günther
Hi, On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 05:58:05PM -0400, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: [..snip..] > Debian 8.5 image URL: > > > > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/openstack/8.5.0/debian-8.5.0-openstack-amd64.qcow2 > > This image will be gone, soon as Debian launches 8.6.0!!! This is bad. > > > So, can Debi

Bug#834544: ITP: dh-copyright -- debhelper extension to aid in tracking copyright and licensing info

2016-08-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: dh-copyright Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : Jonas Smedegaard * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: Perl Description : debhelper extension to

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andrew Shadura (2016-08-16 19:57:05) > > > On 16 August 2016 at 14:32, Ian Jackson > wrote: > > Jonas Smedegaard writes ("Re: copyright precision"): > >> Quoting Markus Koschany (2016-08-15 23:02:06) > >> > So yes, copyright files are hard and unfun but why should we continue > >> > to w

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 02:30:58PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > I always use this as one argument when it comes to "Why should be care > about Debian? Our users use something else", that packaging includes a > careful review and documentation of the copyright. Usually only for the initial upload,

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 03:25:24PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Normally what a potential user needs to know is the effective licence > of the whole thing. Note that we don't even try to declare the license of *binaries we are shipping* and, unless I'm mistaken, the license of a library you are goin

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Ian Jackson (2016-08-16 15:32:55) > Jonas Smedegaard writes ("Re: copyright precision"): >> Quoting Markus Koschany (2016-08-15 23:02:06) >>> So yes, copyright files are hard and unfun but why should we >>> continue to write them the way we do if we are not legally bound to >>> do so? >>

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Alec Leamas
On 16/08/16 16:21, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Ian Jackson (2016-08-16 15:32:19) Ghostscript packaged for Debian has a debian/copyright file with ~400 lines enumerating which source files are covered by which license (and then another ~800 lines covering the actual licenses verbatim). Fedo

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Jonas Smedegaard writes ("Re: copyright precision"): > Quoting Ian Jackson (2016-08-16 15:32:19) > > In the end up looked at the package's upstream web pages, which > > contained a clear answer to the question. > > How was the approach¹ not successful? Didn't you succeed in realizing > that the

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Ian Jackson (2016-08-16 15:32:19) > Andreas Tille writes ("Re: copyright precision"): >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:59:09AM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: >>> It's at least worth a discussion whether nitpicking at d/copyright >>> is really helping the package quality at all, and if it's

Bug#834512: ITP: google-android-platform-installers -- This is a packaged scripts that automatically downloads Google's Android SDK Platform packages and unpacks them into Debian-friendly paths.

2016-08-16 Thread Mouaad Aallam
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mouaad Aallam * Package name: google-android-platform-installers Version : 1470833400 Upstream Author : Google, Inc * URL : https://developer.android.com/index.html * License : public-domain Programming Lang: C, Java, B

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Jonas Smedegaard writes ("Re: copyright precision"): > Quoting Markus Koschany (2016-08-15 23:02:06) > > So yes, copyright files are hard and unfun but why should we continue > > to write them the way we do if we are not legally bound to do so? > > Same reason that we should continue to care abou

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Andreas Tille writes ("Re: copyright precision"): > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:59:09AM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > It's at least worth a discussion whether nitpicking at d/copyright is > > really helping the package quality at all, and if it's worth it. > > I would be interested in having

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Ole Streicher
Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > It's at least worth a discussion whether nitpicking at d/copyright is > really helping the package quality at all, and if it's worth it. I see here another reason -- and an argument actually *for* Debian packaging (being different from, f.e. MacPorts or Conda): Detai

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Ole Streicher
Scott Kitterman writes: > Personally, I think the bulk of the reason we should care about > debian/copyright is to achieve license compliance. For this, IMO the licensing information is not just enough, since it does not document how our binaries are licensed. For example, a source package may

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:30:34AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > Not because we are legally bound to do so, but because we want to do our > > > job as distributors properly. We appreciate good quality packaging! > > It's at least worth a discussion whether nitpicking at d/copyright is > > rea

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andrey Rahmatullin (2016-08-16 07:59:09) > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 01:10:42AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>> So yes, copyright files are hard and unfun but why should we >>> continue to write them the way we do if we are not legally bound to >>> do so? >> >> Same reason that we should

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:59:09AM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > Not because we are legally bound to do so, but because we want to do our > > job as distributors properly. We appreciate good quality packaging! > It's at least worth a discussion whether nitpicking at d/copyright is > really

Re: Base binary packages using xz instead of gzip

2016-08-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 01:55:48AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > Some time has passed and the current situation in sid is this: > > COMP=xz → 158 packages > COMP=gz → 5 packages > > The ones using gzip are: > > base-files_9.6_amd64.deb > base-passwd_3.5.39_amd64.deb > dpkg_1.18.10_

Re: [debian-mysql] Introducing default-mysql-* metapackages

2016-08-16 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:36:15AM +0300, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Yes, this scheme is very flexible and in cases like > > mysql-connector-c++ the package can depend explicitly on the MySQL > > package and not the default package. OK. > > Or we keep a w

Re: [debian-mysql] Introducing default-mysql-* metapackages

2016-08-16 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! 2016-08-16 7:44 GMT+03:00 Rene Engelhard : > On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 05:22:22PM +0300, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: >> Hello maintainers of packages that depend in MySQL/MariaDB! > > Not everyone is required to read -devel. Mailing them where they read > it (and be it Cc'ing them) would be better