Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

2016-12-28 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 28.12.2016 12:08, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> Does iproute work on Non-Linux kernels? > No, but net-tools doesn't work on non-Linux either :) > inetutils tools do, however. As long as there is still a way to have working "netstat" and "ifconfig" commands, that is fine. I often work in mi

Re: HEADSUP: mails sent to n...@bugs.debian.org are NOT sent to the submitter

2016-12-28 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:16:08 +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > Quoting Adam Borowski (2016-12-27 17:56:59) > > Current procedure of subscribing to a bug is an abomination: you need FOUR > > mails for something that could be done by default. > I feel you. This is why I long stopped subscribing to bu

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery writes: > I will file a bug against reportbug on your behalf. I think this bug may have been introduced in the Python 2 to Python 3 conversion, if I am understanding it correctly. Bug report is here: https://bugs.debian.org/849586 -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Russ Allbery
TOMAS MARTIŠIUS writes: > Thanks for solving this problem, bus I am not expert of all these > encodings too, so I simply need working reportbug package and I really > don't know in which point the problem is: in packege or in mailing > system, which must accept bug report. But if both encodings c

Re: dput: Call for feedback: What should change? What should stay the same? [and 1 more messages]

2016-12-28 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
FWIW, I don't think any of the dput-ng hackers particularly mind if it changes, changing API could just happen for both together, at the same time. Or maybe just consolidate :) Paul On Dec 28, 2016 4:34 PM, "Ian Jackson" wrote: > Ben Finney writes ("dput: Call for feedback: What should change?

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Andrew Shadura
Tomas, On 28 December 2016 at 18:52, TOMAS MARTIŠIUS wrote: > Thanks for solving this problem, bus I am not expert of all these encodings > too, > so I simply need working reportbug package and I really don't know in which > point the problem is: in packege or in mailing system, which must accep

Bug#849580: ITP: node-graceful-readlink -- graceful fs.readlink

2016-12-28 Thread Paolo Greppi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paolo Greppi X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-graceful-readlink Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : zhiyelee * URL : https://github.com/zhiyelee/graceful-readlink * License : Expat Programm

Re: dput: Call for feedback: What should change? What should stay the same? [and 1 more messages]

2016-12-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Ben Finney writes ("dput: Call for feedback: What should change? What should stay the same?"): > So I'm now familiar enough, but still fresh enough, that feedback from > people with different experiences is particularly valuable. Thanks a lot for seeking input. I'm not a very advanced user of dp

Re: HEADSUP: mails sent to n...@bugs.debian.org are NOT sent to the submitter

2016-12-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Ian Jackson, on Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:03:11 +, wrote: > Even with auto-subscription by default, maintainers would still have > to mail NNN-submitter to ask for moreinfo, Yes. The only way to really fix the issue starting the thread is to change nnn@'s behavior, and possibly change bots to

Re: HEADSUP: mails sent to n...@bugs.debian.org are NOT sent to the submitter

2016-12-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: HEADSUP: mails sent to n...@bugs.debian.org are NOT sent to the submitter"): > I agree in the abstract, but I do think it's also worth noting that > basically every other bug reporting system I'm aware of defaults to > sending all updates to the bug reporter. So while a

Re: dput: Call for feedback: What should change? What should stay the same?

2016-12-28 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi there, On 12/28/2016 06:18 AM, Afif Elghraoui wrote: > but the dput > command from dput-ng does some spurious checks that fail and I've never > found worth the time to investigate. I only use dput-ng, but because of the extra checks that has already saved me from performing a wrong upload; the

Re: dput: Call for feedback: What should change? What should stay the same?

2016-12-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 11:11:02PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ben Finney writes: > > What does ‘dput’ do that you think really should not be changed? > > What does ‘dput’ do that you wish it would stop doing? > > What do other tools do better than ‘dput’? Do you think that ‘dput’ > > should c

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread TOMAS MARTIŠIUS
Thanks for solving this problem, bus I am not expert of all these encodings too, so I simply need working reportbug package and I really don't know in which point the problem is: in packege or in mailing system, which must accept bug report. But if both encodings can be used (as says some diff

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Andreas Metzler
Niels Thykier wrote: > Andreas Metzler: [...] >> No, the encoding was not correct. Compare how you (your MUA) just did it in >> this message with the rejected one. >> From: =?UTF-8?Q?TOMAS_MARTI=c5=a0IUS?= >> From: =?utf-8?b?VG9tYXMgTWFydGnFoWl1cyA8dG9tYXNAcHVnYS52ZHUubHQ+?= [...] > Hi, >

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Andrew Shadura
On 28 December 2016 at 17:14, Niels Thykier wrote: > Niels Thykier: >> Andreas Metzler: >>> [...] >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> No, the encoding was not correct. Compare how you (your MUA) just did it in >>> this message with the rejected one. >>> >>> From: =?UTF-8?Q?TOMAS_MARTI=c5=a0IUS?= >>> >>> F

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Alec Leamas
On 28/12/16 17:02, Niels Thykier wrote: Note the difference between "=?UTF-8?Q?" vs. "=?UTF-8?b?" (Q vs. b). I presume the "b" is for "binary" or/and "Base64 encoded" vs. Q which would be "quoted printed" or something like that. I am not an expert on permitted ways of quoting UTF-8 in mail h

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Niels Thykier
Niels Thykier: > Andreas Metzler: >> [...] >> >> Hello, >> >> No, the encoding was not correct. Compare how you (your MUA) just did it in >> this message with the rejected one. >> >> From: =?UTF-8?Q?TOMAS_MARTI=c5=a0IUS?= >> >> From: =?utf-8?b?VG9tYXMgTWFydGnFoWl1cyA8dG9tYXNAcHVnYS52ZHUubHQ+?=

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Clint Adams
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 04:02:00PM +, Niels Thykier wrote: > I am not an expert on permitted ways of quoting UTF-8 in mail headers, > but the base64 method does not seem entirely inconceivable for some RFC > to support that (especially not considering you can encode the body with > base64). Yo

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Niels Thykier
Andreas Metzler: > [...] > > Hello, > > No, the encoding was not correct. Compare how you (your MUA) just did it in > this message with the rejected one. > > From: =?UTF-8?Q?TOMAS_MARTI=c5=a0IUS?= > > From: =?utf-8?b?VG9tYXMgTWFydGnFoWl1cyA8dG9tYXNAcHVnYS52ZHUubHQ+?= > Hi, The latter i

Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

2016-12-28 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Wookey wrote: I am (vaguely) aware of > something caled 'ip' which does a similar job but have no idea how to > use it. Here are the few sub-commands I use regularly. Their abbreviated form and unabridged form, and the legacy command: ip a ip address show ifconf

Re: HEADSUP: mails sent to n...@bugs.debian.org are NOT sent to the submitter

2016-12-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 12:16:08PM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > 3. or an "autosubscribe to all submitted bugs" or "autosubscribe to all bugs > one contributed to" feature which prevents spam by only subscribing me to > bugs that I write signed emails to Even if other ideas are rejecte

Bug#849511: general: java and javac can't run , it said "java: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so",

2016-12-28 Thread Andrew Shadura
Control: tags -1 moreinfo On 28 December 2016 at 02:14, Jason.katcom wrote: > Package: general > Severity: normal > > Dear Maintainer, > > *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** > >* What led up to the situation? >* What exactly did you do (or not d

Processed: Re: Bug#849511: general: java and javac can't run , it said "java: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so",

2016-12-28 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tags -1 moreinfo Bug #849511 [general] general: java and javac can't run , it said "java: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so", Added tag(s) moreinfo. -- 849511: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=849511 Debian Bug Tracking System Contac

Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

2016-12-28 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:08:06 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: >Marc Haber, on Wed 28 Dec 2016 11:33:13 +0100, wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 14:50:50 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: >> >With this post I want to encourage fellow maintainers to stop depending >> >on net-tools, which is obsol

Re: Thanks to ftpmasters for being so responsive

2016-12-28 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 14534 March 1977, Ian Jackson wrote: >> If everybody agrees that >> - new versions of packages shall be only uploaded to experimental >> - uploads to testing will only be done on request of the RT or with >> really new packages >> - everything else can be rejected >> processing would b

Bug#849541: ITP: python-coards -- COARDS-compliant time parser

2016-12-28 Thread Ghislain Antony Vaillant
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ghislain Antony Vaillant * Package name: python-coards Version : 1.0.5 Upstream Author : Roberto De Almeida * URL : http://code.dealmeida.net/coards * License : Expat Programming Lang: Python Description : COARDS

Re: HEADSUP: mails sent to n...@bugs.debian.org are NOT sent to the submitter

2016-12-28 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Adam Borowski (2016-12-27 17:56:59) > Current procedure of subscribing to a bug is an abomination: you need FOUR > mails for something that could be done by default. I feel you. This is why I long stopped subscribing to bugs I file. The ping-pong is too bothersome for me. Now I just k

Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

2016-12-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marc Haber, on Wed 28 Dec 2016 11:33:13 +0100, wrote: > On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 14:50:50 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > >With this post I want to encourage fellow maintainers to stop depending > >on net-tools, which is obsolete software and has been replaced long ago > >by iproute. > >

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2016-12-28 TOMAS MARTIŠIUS wrote: > 2016.12.28 09:09, Andreas Metzler rašė: >> On 2016-12-27 TOMAS MARTIŠIUS wrote: >>> Why I can't report bug using reportbug command? After reporting I get back >>> e-mail with this message: [...] >> The From header does not look too good: >>> From: =?utf-8?b

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread Andrew Shadura
On 28 December 2016 at 10:08, TOMAS MARTIŠIUS wrote: > Hello, > > But I am not only english speaking man, so there are UTF-8 chars in my last > name. Thats why subject > is encoded. And it is encoded in standard way, using reportbug command. > > It seams that if someone using UTF-8 in his name and

Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

2016-12-28 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 14:50:50 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: >With this post I want to encourage fellow maintainers to stop depending >on net-tools, which is obsolete software and has been replaced long ago >by iproute. Does iproute work on Non-Linux kernels? Greetings Marc -- -

Re: unattended-upgrades by default?

2016-12-28 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 26-12-16 om 23:44 schreef Paul Wise: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 12:35 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > >> I use a script on a few servers to realize this, it's not perfect: >> http://vandervlis.nl/files/updateafter > > It might be interesting to contribute this to unattended-upgrades. I use the

Re: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2016-12-28 Thread TOMAS MARTIŠIUS
Hello, But I am not only english speaking man, so there are UTF-8 chars in my last name. Thats why subject is encoded. And it is encoded in standard way, using reportbug command. It seams that if someone using UTF-8 in his name and wants report bug - it has a problems. I think this is total