Re: Bug#886238: Please introduce official nosystemd build profile

2018-01-05 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Am 04.01.2018 um 05:12 schrieb Russ Allbery: > I think the key to a good path forward is to recognize that systemd solved > some specific problems, and to build a roadmap of which problems do indeed > need to be solved and the alternate solutions to them, and which aren't > important enough t

Re: e2fsprogs as Essential: yes?: Maybe we should be separating l10n files first?

2018-01-05 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2018-01-02 03:10 Theodore Ts'o: My only real concern is whether this might complicate building the latest version of e2fsprogs for stable and old-stable for debian-backports. I think that it's fine, they've been supported for a long time and stable and old-stable should be covered, not sure abo

Bug#886238: Please introduce official nosystemd build profile

2018-01-05 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hallo, * Johannes Schauer [Wed, Jan 03 2018, 08:24:49PM]: > > The speculation about a possible nosystemd profile in > > is > > not consistent with that design principle. If a package contains systemd > > units or uses of libsys

Bug#886418: ITP: kwant -- Python package for numerical quantum transport calculations

2018-01-05 Thread Christoph Groth
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christoph Groth * Package name: kwant Version : 1.3.2 Upstream Author : Kwant authors * URL : http://www.kwant-project.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python, Cython Description : Python package for numeri

Re: Bug#886238: Please introduce official nosystemd build profile

2018-01-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 12:08:42PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > On Fri, 2018-01-05 at 01:47 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Especially you two shouldn't be fighting.  As far as I know, Svante is > > somewhat involved with eudev maintenance in Devuan (done mostly by parazyd, > > though), while Mar

Re: Bug#886238: Please introduce official nosystemd build profile

2018-01-05 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2018-01-05 at 01:47 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > Especially you two shouldn't be fighting.  As far as I know, Svante is > somewhat involved with eudev maintenance in Devuan (done mostly by parazyd, > though), while Marco has a great wealth of udev experience. Well I did the work an

Bug#886238: marked as done (Please introduce official nosystemd build profile)

2018-01-05 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:50:23 +0100 with message-id <20180105105023.r2xpt2ixtoqfa...@shell.thinkmo.de> and subject line Re: Bug#886238: Please introduce official nosystemd build profile has caused the Debian Bug report #886238, regarding Please introduce official nosystemd build prof

Re: Bug#886238: Please introduce official nosystemd build profile

2018-01-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 10:44:24PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: Do we have runtime systemd detection in all software linked against libsystemd so it will work properly in absence of systemd? To rebuild software without libsystemd is the only reliable way to ensure that non-systemd code pathes are

Re: Bug#886238: Please introduce official nosystemd build profile

2018-01-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 10:25:14PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: 1) Even Wikipedia knows 43 distributions, much more can be found on http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributions, some of them are still Debian based (but migrate to Devuan). Perhaps these interested

Bug#886238: Please introduce official nosystemd build profile

2018-01-05 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 10:44:24PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > On 1/3/18, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > Moreover, defining an official nosystemd profile in Debian signals that we > > are willing to support it, which means any maintainers who refuse such > > patches will immediately become the tar