Re: Difficult Packaging Practices

2019-05-26 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 27 mai 2019 16:15 +10, Ben Finney : >> If you just want to get upstream's idea of their package onto a system >> with their release schedule and their recommended dependency versions, >> there are better ways than getting a package into Debian. > > In the Debian mentors forum (that is, the chat

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andreas Tille (2019-05-27 06:29:05) > On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 07:28:55PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > > > We "uphold this reputation" by maintaining many packages, which is > > > good. > > > > Do we? I am now using nix to get packages for stuff not in Debian. > > Our package count is a

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Re: Difficult Packaging Practices

2019-05-26 Thread Ben Finney
Sam Hartman writes: > If you just want to get upstream's idea of their package onto a system > with their release schedule and their recommended dependency versions, > there are better ways than getting a package into Debian. In the Debian mentors forum (that is, the chat channel, the mailing li

Bug#929606: ITP: dataset-fashion-mnist -- (DL-Policy) A MNIST-like fashion product database.

2019-05-26 Thread Mo Zhou
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mo Zhou * Package name: dataset-fashion-mnist * URL : https://github.com/zalandoresearch/fashion-mnist * License : MIT Description : A MNIST-like fashion product database. This is a part of DL-Policy[1]'s experiments. The fir

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 25, 2019 5:26:47 PM UTC, Sam Hartman wrote: > >Hi. Almost two weeks ago [1] I started a discussion on whether we >wanted to increase the strength of our recommendation of the dh >sequencer from debhelper. >This message is a consensus call summarizing my reading of the >discussion. ... >

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 07:28:55PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > > We "uphold this reputation" by maintaining many packages, which is > > good. > > Do we? I am now using nix to get packages for stuff not in Debian. Our > package count is artificially inflated by *-perl packages, golang-* > packag

Re: Difficult Packaging Practices

2019-05-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Sam Hartman writes: > I think it's a combination of a lot of things. We have high standards, > a lot of complexity, and you have to get most or all of that right to > contribute. You have to have a package that meets our standards. You > have to have a copyright file that meets our standards.

Re: Difficult Packaging Practices

2019-05-26 Thread Jérémy Lal
Le dim. 26 mai 2019 à 23:01, Sam Hartman a écrit : > > "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes: > > Adrian> It is a problem for people making their first contributions > Adrian> to Debian to get them into unstable. The problem here is > Adrian> lack of sponsors willing to do proper review

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-26 Thread Philip Hands
Adrian Bunk writes: ... > Often the most difficult part of packaging are the unique rules the > Debian ftp team requires for debian/copyright that are not required in > distributions with actual lawyers. That's a completely separate topic. That seems needlessly snide, and glosses over the fact

Difficult Packaging Practices

2019-05-26 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes: Adrian> It is a problem for people making their first contributions Adrian> to Debian to get them into unstable. The problem here is Adrian> lack of sponsors willing to do proper reviews and then Adrian> uploads. Usually the package in questio

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 11:34:39AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: >... > We have a reputation of having difficult > packaging practices. We uphold this reputation as long as we have so > many ways to do the same thing. [citation needed] I do honestly not know what statements/comparisons from peop

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-26 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 26 mai 2019 12:04 +02, Jonas Smedegaard : >> > * People who make changes across the archive such as enabling >> > hardening, cross-building, bootstrapping, etc benefit >> > significantly from more uniformity in packaging practices. The >> > time they spend working on packages that use

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-05-26 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/26/19 1:22 PM, Bastian Blank wrote: > [SN: Trimmed Cc list] > > Hi John My name is Adrian. Thanks. > On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 06:48:36AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> Could you PLEASE stop posting to debian-ports@? You are sending these mails >> to every Debian Ports architectu

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-05-26 Thread Bastian Blank
[SN: Trimmed Cc list] Hi John On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 06:48:36AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Could you PLEASE stop posting to debian-ports@? You are sending these mails > to every Debian Ports architecture mailing list. Please stop shouting. Please fix your MUA to produce readabl

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Vincent Bernat (2019-05-26 11:34:39) > ❦ 25 mai 2019 13:26 -04, Sam Hartman : > > > * People who make changes across the archive such as enabling > > hardening, cross-building, bootstrapping, etc benefit > > significantly from more uniformity in packaging practices. The > > time

Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16

2019-05-26 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 25 mai 2019 13:26 -04, Sam Hartman : > * People who make changes across the archive such as enabling hardening, > cross-building, bootstrapping, etc benefit significantly from more > uniformity in packaging practices. The time they spend working on > packages that use dh is significantly