Am Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 09:23:48AM -0600 schrieb Sam Hartman:
> So, even though I think the extensions to dpkg will also be complicated,
> at a purely technical level, I think they are less complicated.
>
> I understand technical complexity is only part of the picture.
> I understand the dpkg
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> Of course, having to unnecessarily add more maintainer scripts to
> handle something that dpkg can do perfectly fine on its own
TL;DR: merged-usr-via-symlink-farms cannot be done without changing dpkg,
and since the quote above seems to indicate you'd be willing to do that,
why not just change
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On 2021-07-27 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 02:13:33PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
[...]
>> Afaiu you are suggesting to do somethink like this instead and
>> immediately post bulleye release.
>>
>> preinst upgrade|install
>> if
> "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst writes:
Wouter> I'm convinced there is a way that we can move forward which
Wouter> does *not* require bypassing the dpkg database. I think that
Wouter> such a way *should* be preferential, and the complete lack
Wouter> of even a desire to
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 04:26:34PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> Also, take care when moving shell commands from a shell script: the bash
> shell at least keeps a cache of commands to paths so it doesn't have to do a
> full path search every time. A shell script that calls
>
> mv /bin/cp
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 06:53:01PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 03:25:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > I'm worried about systems being written to completely bypass the dpkg
> > database.
> Like alternatives and things that create files in postinst?
The
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On Tue, 2021-07-27 at 16:26:34 +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> On 7/27/21 11:44 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > A package in the essential set could work around the issue by moving a
> > file around and creating a necessary symlink in preinst rather than
> > shipping things. The set of Essential
Hi,
On 7/27/21 11:44 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
A package in the essential set could work around the issue by moving a
file around and creating a necessary symlink in preinst rather than
shipping things. The set of Essential packages is small however, and
most packages can ship a compat
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 03:25:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> I'm worried about systems being written to completely bypass the dpkg
> database.
Like alternatives and things that create files in postinst?
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On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 02:13:33PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> On 2021-07-27 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 03:20:05PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:53:32 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >>> I've suggested previously that we can easily make it
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Maintainer: Debian Go Packaging Team
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Hi! I'm now resuming work on the libidn shared library transition, and
I'm ready for the upload to experimental. I wanted to ping back here to
get more review. I'm following Andreas Metzler's outline, but included
some tweaks suggested by Simon McVittie. I decided to do some more
changes that
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On Tue, 2021-07-27 at 11:44:32 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 03:20:05PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:53:32 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > I've suggested previously that we can easily make it RC for bookworm to
> > > have a file outside a
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Maintainer: Debian Games Team
Changed-By: Reiner Herrmann
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On 2021-07-27 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 03:20:05PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:53:32 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>>> I've suggested previously that we can easily make it RC for bookworm to
>>> have a file outside a limited set of directories
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On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 03:20:05PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:53:32 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > I've suggested previously that we can easily make it RC for bookworm to
> > have a file outside a limited set of directories (/etc and /usr would be
> > OK, but
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