Re: When do we update the homepage to a modern design? (was Re: Moving away from (unsupportable) FusionForge on Alioth)

2017-05-15 13:12 GMT+03:00 lumin : > Especially look at the homepage of Gentoo It's ugly, seriously.

Re: Mass bug filing about non free lena image.

2015-08-12 16:32 GMT+03:00 Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu: Any productive suggestion? Take a picture of one of Debian women ? :-)

Re: Facilitating external repositories

2015-06-05 19:10 GMT+03:00 Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org: Given that the packages in question appear to be Free Software (at least from a quick check of a couple of them, as well as the repository being named main), is there a reason you don't maintain them in Debian (including backports

Re: Please more fish (was: so long and thanks for all the fish)

2014-11-10 0:38 GMT+03:00 Simon Richter s...@debian.org: automake With autotools one can always use plain shell code in configure.ac and plain make in Makefile.am ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Fwd: open-axiom is marked for autoremoval from testing

Is it really a good idea to remove packages which FTBFS because of *internal compiler error*? Shouldn't GCC be removed instead? :-) -- Forwarded message -- From: Debian testing autoremoval watch nore...@release.debian.org Date: 2014-09-29 8:39 GMT+04:00 Subject: open-axiom is

Re: -- APT's New Version --

As for me I'd like to have source and clean subcommands for apt ;-) (For aptitude too) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: OpenRC

The discussions on init system have discovered much energy of developers and users, so I think they are able to use that energy to support multiple systems :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: How can I make this work

2014-01-29 Roelof Wobben rwob...@hotmail.com: Now it fails with this message : /usr/bin/ld: SDL_2dgl.o: undefined reference to symbol 'floor@@GLIBC_2.2.5' //lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

Re: GnuTLS in Debian

Do I understand correctly the following: Application M under the MIT license linked to LGPL3 library L - ok Application C under the CDDL license linked to LGPL3 library L - ok Application G under the GPL3 license linked to LGPL3 library L - ok, all under GPL3 Bang! Application M is now under

Re: can i have the main os files in zip file?

2014/1/3 freddie simmonds frederick.simmo...@aspects.net: i want to make my own oprating system from debian system for a certain usb device. however, trying to accses the files from a disc, i cant find them. Majority of files are in packages, see

Bug#733651: general: Any USB card reader works only after being replugged.

I can confirm this. # uname -a Linux hope 3.10-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.10.7-1 (2013-08-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux # cat /etc/debian_version jessie/sid udev/204-5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Bug#732159: Should this package be removed?

2013/12/21 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de: mplayer2 is badly maintained as compared to mplayer, don't know anything about mpv though. Just learned about it as of today, in fact. mplayer2 looks more portable to me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: debconf as a registry

2013/11/27 Joey Hess jo...@debian.org: I'd think it would be obvious why it's not good design to put parsers for every possible config file format in debconf. There is libaugeas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013/10/30 Helmut Grohne hel...@subdivi.de: What is going to happen with non-Linux ports? Debian is not Debian without non-Linux ports. As for me, I think it is not very hard to maintain diffrent init systems for different kernels. Especially if Debian GNU/Linux get rid of sysvinit: writing

Re: Anybody using quilt?

https://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0 Anything other looks bad :-) 2013/8/26 Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com Hi, Is any of you Debian maintainers/developers using guilt (qit+quilt)for patch management/developement? Is it good or bad? If you are not, what do you use?

Re: pidof changing from sysvinit-devel to procps

Since we are talking about pidof, I'd like to note that pgrep is more portable ;-) 2013/8/9, Craig Small csm...@debian.org: Besides my Debian duties I am also upstream for procps. I have been in discussion with the sysvinit-tools upstream and they want to find a new home for pidof so it fits

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013/7/22 Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net: We would be effectively locked in. We are locked in sysvinit. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013/7/18 William Giokas 1007...@gmail.com: Having not used OpenRC, I have no comment on the real world advantages or disadvantages of either init system I'm a user of Gentoo and Debian. I do not care of what to type: 'emerge -avuND world' or 'apt-get upgrade' I do not care of which init

Re: SONAME migration: from liblambda0 to liblambda1

2013/7/15 Jerome BENOIT g62993...@rezozer.net: the former binary package liblambda0 is not discarded by the new binary package liblambda1, neither in Sid nor at the upgrading stage with aptitude. I guess that something is missing in `debian/control', any clue ? I think this is intentional.

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

Why not to use different init systems on different kernels? Debian already supports 3 (three) init systems *at once*, sysvinit, upstart, systemd. This is much harder that using single system. FYI, on Dyson [1] I've made dh_installinit noop, and working on dh-smf [2] [1] http://osdyson.org [2]

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013/7/14 Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it: which is a waste of time and adds code which cannot be well tested. Isn't Debian itself is a waste of time, while we have RedHat? :-P Let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought contend. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: 7.0- 7.1: any reasons for switching from {4,5,6}.0.x scheme?

2013/6/17 Neil McGovern ne...@debian.org: #712586 So... why is postgres relying on an undocumented numbering schema, and breaking when it doesn't match what it expects? Why it checks for version at all? Isn't package dependencies should be used? What about Debian derivatives? -- To

Re: DH way to set SONAME

Changing package name is not enough. You should patch the library build system to produce different soname and library filename 2013/6/9, Jerome BENOIT g62993...@rezozer.net: Hello List, because of backward incompatibility I have to add a suffix to my library package name. But lintian keep

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013/5/31 Jeff Epler jep...@unpythonic.net: Yes and yes. Wheezy kfreebsd amd64 is dandy for server and OK for some minor graphical desktop stuff (opengl is not in a good state right now, at least with nvidia hardware: nouveau is no-go due to not having kernel support and proprietary won't

Re: optimizing PNGs

2013/5/29 Paul Wise p...@debian.org: Does that mean switching away from autotools? No. Or not shipping configure/Makefile.in in the tarballs? No. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: default MTA

2013/5/28 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org: Nobody, I repeat, nobody, ever reads local mail on most desktop systems I read mail from my desktop :-) It is forwarded to my gmail account -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013/5/27 brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.net: At the risk of adding another level of indirection, we could add a meta-init format that can generate an appropriate file for any of these. http://xkcd.com/927/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013/5/23 Helmut Grohne hel...@subdivi.de: * stdout/stderr to syslog redirection This is possibly implementable, but needs more than a line of shell. In Solaris SMF each service has its own log file with SMF messages *and* all stdout/stderr pashev@bok:~$ find /var/log/svc/ /var/log/svc/

Re: Packaging releases without a tarball (sometimes)

Put git updates as a patch, e. g. debian/patches/git-update.patch Bump debian part of version as usual. AFAIK python is packaged in this way -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013/5/14 Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org: But ansgar's objection about the duplication of the changelog in multiple .deb when it used to be shared via a symlink also makes sense. As does the fact that there's currently no way to not install some control files. What about creating symlinks

Re: systemd^wfoo on linux, bar on bsd,so what (Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013/5/13 Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org: On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 08:46:23AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: There is no need for udev to be dependent upon a specific init system, other than laziness. Except if you want to receive device plug events as triggers to start up / shut down services. The

Re: systemd^wfoo on linux, bar on bsd,so what (Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013/5/14 Игорь Пашев pashev.i...@gmail.com: 2013/5/13 Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org: On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 08:46:23AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: There is no need for udev to be dependent upon a specific init system, other than laziness. Except if you want to receive device plug events

Re: Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

2013/5/12 Stéphane Glondu glo...@debian.org: What about /etc ? /var ? both contain data that can mess up with a running system... All go into a snapshot. That's why I stand for moving /var/lib/mysql and similar things out of /var -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013/5/12 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de: Honestly, you simply can't expect every single package in Debian to run on any of the supported kernels. If systemd profits from the use of Linux-specific kernel features, which is a good thing in my humble opinion because Linux

Re: Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

2013/5/11 Aron Xu a...@debian.org: An easy example is that, on Solaris, there is a something called boot environment (BE), which is essentially snapshots of the combination of /usr and /boot, users can switch between different BEs easily without affecting any user data. Without /usr merge,

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013/5/11 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org: We have had two releases with kfreebsd, which failed to provide anything usable. Debian is only about Linux, and has always been. I have some news about it ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013/5/12 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org: GNOME depends on a working glibc, too. Does it dictate the C library? Yes. Portability still makes sense. Portability is a part of the word Free in Free Software. Debian is about Free Software. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: /srv (was /export)

2013/5/8 Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org: Игорь Пашев pashev.igor at gmail.com writes: What about moving default location for applications to /export ? *NO*! Maybe not /export, but /srv, which already exists, the idea is separating system data and application data. (Actually, I do not like

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013/5/8 Peter Samuelson pe...@p12n.org: Wrong list, please bring this up instead on fhs-discuss. (If that still exists - it looks a bit stale - but anyway, debian-devel is not for FHS discussion.) I'd like to have an open discussion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013/5/8 Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org: How about moving /home into /usr? I proposed exactly an opposite thing for databases :-) If do not like /usr/home, you might not like to have your data under /var/lib ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013/5/8 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org: The FHS has the perfect place for such data: /srv. I agree we should move the data there, but there is no reason to invent a new place. Yeah. /export was my typo ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013/5/8 Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name: On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 03:51:33PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: How about moving /etc into /home? How about moving /home into /usr? Note that / was moved to /usr and /usr to /home just for HDD size reasons [1]. [1]:

Setting up package vs triggers

=== BEFORE = $ sudo apt-get install dbus Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Suggested packages: dbus-x11 The following NEW packages will be installed: dbus 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not

Re: New version of libselinux makes libpcre3 pseudo-essential

2013/5/8 Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org: On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 07:49:37PM +0400, Игорь Пашев wrote: Does it matter? If libselinux depends on libpcre3, libpcre3 will be pulled. I believed all libraries are optional. Please re-read the policy, especially 2.5: | Packages must not depend

Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

What about merging / and /usr ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALL-Q8zwv5QtT05VA+cQg+OF=paijrt606x2shdte+b4qv2...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

2013/5/7 Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org: Not when you have a 500 meg internal storage that the firmware boots off of, and using a multi-gig CF card to store the mega-awesome-app you're using it for. Similar to Live CDs where /usr used to be compressed on a CD?

Re: New version of libselinux makes libpcre3 pseudo-essential

2013/5/7 Laurent Bigonville bi...@debian.org: Hello, As Guillem asked me in a bug report (#695620), I'm bringing this to debian-devel. The latest version of libselinux is now using libpcre3 instead of the regex functions from the glibc. This is improving the performances quite

/export (was Re: jessie release goals)

Currently /var/lib contains data for system utilities (dpkg, apt, aptitute) and for user application like databases. What about moving default location for applications to /export ? Think about modern fs like btrfs and zfs: One may want to create a snapshot of the entire system, user data

Re: Switching packages to non-awaiting triggers

Hi, I think I know one more issue related to this, correct me if it is not. This might be a problem for systemd, but I will talk about SMF [1] and concrete example - dbus. 1. dbus package includes SMF manifest 2. for dbus service to appear, its manifest should be imported 3. importing manifests

Re: Switching packages to non-awaiting triggers

2013/5/7 Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org: We don't use dpkg triggers to start (systemd) services. Hm? http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-systemd/systemd.git;a=blob;f=debian/systemd.triggers;h=f6c3c0ce0da08815f366868d3b3a3f9e5907875f;hb=refs/heads/debian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Switching packages to non-awaiting triggers

2013/5/7 Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org: If you actually looked at the package, you would have noticed that it has nothing to do with starting services. Maybe, systemctl enable does not start the service? Main question is: can triggers be activated before package is configured (namely

Re: jessie release goals

2013/5/6 Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name: There is also a related thing that was discussed in the past: stop disabling services via /etc/default. Modern service management systems might be better choice. E. g. systemd or SMF :-P -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Debian on illumos (Dyson) LiveCD

Hi, all! In a shadow of Debian 7 release, Dyson - a Debian port to illumos kernel - became self-hosted and now has an installer :-) http://osdyson.org/projects/dyson/wiki/Dyson_Installer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Debian on illumos (Dyson) LiveCD

2013/5/6 Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl: I just tried it and ported some stuff to it, it seems that its libc is pretty bizarre. For example math functions in C++ require quite a bunch of manual work (you need to explicitely cast all arguments unless they happen to be float, double or long

Add multiarch library paths to DEFAULT_LIBRARY_PATH in Dpkg::Shlibs?

Hi, all. Now, /usr/share/perl5/Dpkg/Shlibs.pm defines default library search path as: use constant DEFAULT_LIBRARY_PATH = qw(/lib /usr/lib /lib32 /usr/lib32 /lib64 /usr/lib64 /emul/ia32-linux/lib /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib); and adds multiarch dirs only for crosscompiling: if

Re: Add multiarch library paths to DEFAULT_LIBRARY_PATH in Dpkg::Shlibs?

2013/4/16 Paul Wise p...@debian.org: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Игорь Пашев wrote: Now, /usr/share/perl5/Dpkg/Shlibs.pm defines default library search path as: Sounds like a topic for the debian-dpkg list? No. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Add multiarch library paths to DEFAULT_LIBRARY_PATH in Dpkg::Shlibs?

2013/4/16 Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org: On Tue, 16 Apr 2013, Игорь Пашев wrote: I think it would be better to add multiarch dirs to DEFAULT_LIBRARY_PATH, and put them in first positions. Why? This modules tries to mimick ld.so's logic to find libraries as closely as possible. /lib

Re: Add multiarch library paths to DEFAULT_LIBRARY_PATH in Dpkg::Shlibs?

2013/4/16 Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org: On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:11:24 +0400 No - there's confusion here between the runtime link path and the build time link path. Dpkg::Shlibs at the point quoted is concerned with the build time paths. Where to find the stuff which has been linked

Debootstrap progress does not look monotonic

Progress, reported by debootstrap does not look monotonic. Do I miss something? . 254 255 P: 2243294 76407470 256 257 P: 2289076 76407470 - HERE 258 259 I: VALIDATING 260 261 IA: aptitude 262 263 IF: Validating %s 264 265 I: RETRIEVING 266 267 IA:

alternative debian/rules

I've just realized that debian/rules might not be a makefile, but can be a script in any language. Is there any package using debian/rules whihc is not a makefile? Are there any packages that can get advantages by using debian/rules written in bash/perl/python/etc? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: alternative debian/rules

2013/4/5 Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl: The policy says Indeed. So, in any case one can use its own tool just like dh: %: debian/megatool $@ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

objcopy vs absolute addresses

Hi, all. While trying to build GRUB on illumos [*-pc-solaris2.11], I've found that for different absolute addresses (-Wl,-Ttext -Wl,ADDR) objcopy -O binary produces different objects files, but it is expected to be the same. Test script see at the bottom. I've checked it with binutils 2.22 on

Re: objcopy vs absolute addresses

2013/3/30 Игорь Пашев pashev.i...@gmail.com: Hi, all. While trying to build GRUB on illumos [*-pc-solaris2.11], I've found that for different absolute addresses (-Wl,-Ttext -Wl,ADDR) objcopy -O binary produces different objects files, but it is expected to be the same. Building grub-legacy

Re: objcopy vs absolute addresses

Actually, grub-legacy is buildable... Probably, some patches make it possible. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: objcopy vs absolute addresses

2013/3/30 Jeff Epler jep...@unpythonic.net: This is something to do with the .note.gnu.build-id. Both of these alternatives give three identical object files: Removing this section in objcopy: $OBJCOPY -R .note.gnu.build-id ... Or requesting that the linker not generate it in the first

Debian on illumos (Dyson) LiveCD

Hi, all! It was a long and hard way, but here it is. The new LiveCD. http://osdyson.org/news/20 This is the last stage before creating installable port of Debian on illumos. What is Dyson - http://osdyson.org/projects/dyson/wiki It uses 64-bit (amd64) illumos kernel, libc (not glibc yet), and

grub2 on zfs root

Suddenly, I've found that grub2 knows about kopensolaris [1] Could anybody say how it happened? Any experience on using Grub2 with ZFS root? And even more: on OpenSolaris? [1] http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/grub2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Creating symlinks to manpages

2013/2/12 Colin Watson cjwat...@debian.org: There is, as far as I can see, no code in dh_installman that forces the section to upper-case. I guess this is due to .TH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Creating symlinks to manpages

2013/2/12 Colin Watson cjwat...@debian.org: IMO it's rational to patch manual pages to lower-case the section in such cases, and forward that patch upstream so you don't need to continue maintaining it. You'd have to do the same thing if they specified an entirely wrong section number, which

Creating symlinks to manpages

Hi all. Some manpages describe several utilities in one page, so I have to create symlink for manpages, e. g. dcopy.1.gz - clri.1.gz (while clri.1.gz is installed with dh_installman). The thing I concern it that I need to know exact file name for link target. If I write foo.1m in d/XXX.manpages,

Re: Creating symlinks to manpages

2013/2/11 Kartik Mistry kartik.mis...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Игорь Пашев pashev.i...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any handy way to link manpages? That is I could just write `bar` is described in `foo`. I know about .so, but looks urgly because debhelper finally replaces

Re: Creating symlinks to manpages

2013/2/11 Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org: The thing I concern it that I need to know exact file name for link target. Why is that a problem? Because final file name is out of my control :-) It is controlled by dh_installman and dh_compress I have foo.1 in d/xxx.manpages, and only want to have

Re: Creating symlinks to manpages

Does it make sense? 1. Extend d/xxx.manpages to form: bar.1 foo.1 2. dh_installman will create symlink bar.1 - foo.1 3. dh_compress will take care of symlinks, e. i.: a) compress foo.1 to foo.1.gz (or whatever) b) rm bar.1 c) create symlink bar.1.gz - foo.1.gz I remember such a thing in

Re: Creating symlinks to manpages

And http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Creating symlinks to manpages

2013/2/11 Игорь Пашев pashev.i...@gmail.com: a) compress foo.1 to foo.1.gz (or whatever) b) rm bar.1 c) create symlink bar.1.gz - foo.1.gz hm.. dh_compress does it already. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Creating symlinks to manpages

2013/2/11 Arno Töll a...@debian.org: Hi, On 11.02.2013 13:46, Игорь Пашев wrote: I have foo.1 in d/xxx.manpages, and only want to have bar.1 - foo.1, no matter where foo.1 get its location or how it is compressed. You should not use symlinks, but source pages such tasks [1]. Install

Re: socket-based activation has unmaintainable security?

2013/2/6 Chow Loong Jin hyper...@debian.org: On 07/02/2013 01:35, Thomas Goirand wrote: Which would be the wrong way of doing things / wrong reason for using root as running user, since you can set the CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE capability... (man capabilities ...) Yeah, I figured as much, but

Should llvm source package include *patched* sources?

The package llvm-3.0-source includes tarball /usr/src/llvm-3.0/llvm-3.0.tar.xz. This tarball seems to include original llvm sources without Debian patches. clang-3.0 uses that tarball to build itself, obviously without Debian patches. Should llvm source package include *patched* sources? Or, at

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013/1/30 Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:25:12 +, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: To be fair, it's similar in reverse. Some Debian developers prefer to _not_ install Ruby *at all*. Given how utterly awful the internals of the language implementation

Re: screen says Bad tty if /dev/console is a symlink

So, is it ok? Index: screen/tty.sh === --- screen.orig/tty.sh 2013-01-27 02:16:57.916935245 + +++ screen/tty.sh 2013-01-27 02:33:12.831241123 + @@ -1506,11 +1506,21 @@ char *tty; { struct stat st; + char * real;

Re: screen says Bad tty if /dev/console is a symlink

I guess you meant PATH_MAX here, in any case POSIX does not guarantee MAX variables to be defined, it would be better to use the POSIX.1-2008 variant of realpath(3) that allocates when passed a NULL (by checking if it's available at configure time). I thought my libc did not support it, but

Re: screen says Bad tty if /dev/console is a symlink

So, do you mean it is good to do realpath() and only then stat() etc.? CheckTtyname (tty) { realpath; check real path; } ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

screen says Bad tty if /dev/console is a symlink

Before filling a bug, I need a review :-) The patch fo screen.cc [1] introduces the function CheckTtyname(): int CheckTtyname (tty) char *tty; { struct stat st; if (lstat(tty, st) || !S_ISCHR(st.st_mode) || (st.st_nlink 1 strncmp(tty, /dev/, 5))) return -1; return 0;

Re: screen says Bad tty if /dev/console is a symlink

Did I break anything? Too paranoid? Index: screen/tty.sh === --- screen.orig/tty.sh 2013-01-26 07:55:33.092171499 + +++ screen/tty.sh 2013-01-26 08:56:34.254462991 + @@ -1505,12 +1505,29 @@ CheckTtyname (tty) char

Re: screen says Bad tty if /dev/console is a symlink

I'd rather drop checking for path at all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALL-Q8zSrj=fgggfqeva4k4iuqngbb6u12to8_fz1vp4uqo...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Time to merge back ubuntu improvements!

What is the defference: 1. Insert a new stage between stable and testing and 2. double the period of automatic migration from unstable to testing? m? :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Packaging upstream tarballs with mixed C and Python sources

2012/12/22 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de: Hi, I am currently trying to figure out how to get the new UAE fork fs-uae [1] ready for Debian and I haven't yet found a satisfiable way to build the package. fs-uae itself is written in C, but it ships together with a

Re: Mplayer not running with user privileges

2012/12/7 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com This is list is for development of Debian, your question should be posted on debian-user instead (or one of the debian-user-language lists). This makes me think that the right list have been choosen: :-) I have ported debian-squeeze on my

Re: [OT] config file formats

Guys, it looks like you are looking for The Silver Bullet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

2012/12/2 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net: No, that's not sufficient. You may want relations between key-value pair. For instance, if you have a line with a key foo, then a line with a key bar must also exist. Or a line with a key number must have a value that is a number (more generally

Debian package browser

Hi, all. For obvious reasons I cannot find [in the Net] a way how to setup a package browser similar to one used at http://packages.debian.org or at http://packages.ubuntu.com Could anybody point me in the right direction? Once again: I'd like to have debian package browser on my site. -- To

Re: Debian package browser

Hi! The source code for packages.debian.org is available in this git repository: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=webwml/packages.git;a=summary Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012/11/29 Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org: glibc and the kernel is developed by the same group of companies. Both interact very closely and integration of the sources was the natural consequence. Please, *DONT* :-) I've tired of this crap on illumos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Do not CC me

Hi there! I see many note in this list like: I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me. So I'd like to note: 1. Some e-mail cleints make it hard not to CC. For example GMail has only two options: reply and reply to all. Reply will send email to the author, not to the list 2. Some

Re: A common configuration format, anyone?

2012/11/14 Philip Ashmore cont...@philipashmore.com simple format which, like xml, is human-readable XML is not human-readable :-)

Re: History of Debian bootstrapping/porting efforts

I took OpenIndiana and started to rebuild Debian packages ignoring formal dependencies. Each new package was install via dpkg-deb -x :-)

Re: major linux problems summary 2012

These are not *linux* problems. 2012/11/3 Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 07:30:00PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: Don't feed the troll. It's not trolling. It's a honest list of problems which a lot of developers don't view as problems. -- WBR, wRAR

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages

Do not kick me, but in Solaris, there are : 1) special ELF section .SUNW_ldynsym extending .dynsym [1] 2) .SUNW_ctf with CTF data [2] 3) Function args are saved in stack for amd64 But from my point all it exists because Solaris lacks robust package manager :-) [1]

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012/10/25 Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org It may just mean you've managed to send your request to the wrong place As I see, almost all debian guys are so courteous that they point to the right place.

Re: (seemingly) declinging bug report numbers

I will fill your bugreports for $1.99 per bug :-) 2012/10/19 Peter Samuelson pe...@p12n.org: [Kelly Clowers] But I basically never report bugs. I have used Sid for years, and in fact I often don't notice bugs in my personal workflow (maybe if I can think of myself as a user? I notice

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