Re: realplayer installer and frozen

2000-03-15 Thread Alex Yukhimets
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 07:09:31PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Lars Wirzenius wrote: I agree with Branden: remove the installer from potato. The problem that I forgot to mention is that anyone who upgrades from slink to potato w/o upgrading realplayer, and had realplayer installed via the

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Alex Yukhimets
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 10:47:51PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: You are going to keep /usr/X11R6 for this release right? I guess that the XFree86 people might get a bit irritated if you tried to drop it. Actually, I've evilly been toying with the idea of #defining ProjectRoot to /usr for

Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Alex Yukhimets
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 08:20:48AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:59:20AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote: _please_ don't do it. It will be utterely confusing to find everything in a new place. As a person who does X development writing -I/usr/X11R6/include is an idiom

Re: Warnings when linking with gtk

1998-04-15 Thread Alex Yukhimets
I use the minimal Makefile: CFLAGS=-O2 -g -I/usr/lib/glib/include/ LDFLAGS=-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lglib -lgdk -lgtk -lm and get an (apparently) working program but the warnings: ld: warning: libc.so.5, needed by /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXi.so.6, may conflict with libc.so.6

Re: linking problem

1998-04-13 Thread Alex Yukhimets
if i replace -lXpm by /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 the program links fine. does anybody have any idea what's going on here? ld only looks for libXpm.so, not for libXpm.so.version. In Debian, libfoo.so is part of the libfoo-dev package, not of the libfoo package, as you need the header files

Re: Re^2: Debian 2.0 release requirements

1998-01-10 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Moin Alex! AY I would like to question the need for this requirement. ??? Aren't you questioning my right to do that? :) AY While this can be of importance to some users, it can be quite AY annoying to others. ??? Please remember, a lot of languages need 8 bit clean programs. Non 8

Re: Debian 2.0 release requirements

1998-01-10 Thread Alex Yukhimets
You can't satisfy all users anyway. In addition, I would hate to be able to switch to russian keyboard mode (by mistake) and enter some letters which look just like English ones in the editor I use for _programming_. OTOH, many people'd be upset not to be able to insert comments using

Re: Debian 2.0 release requirements

1998-01-10 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Alex, this is much simpler than you think. I will give you a simple example: My keyboard has a key for the \~n letter (using TeX notation) which is used in the Spanish language. When I press that key, I *expect* to produce such character. Not obtaining that letter but some other is

Re: Debian 2.0 release requirements

1998-01-07 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Support of 8-bit characters by default Some programs need special configuration options to work 8-bit clean. This is very important for a lot of non-English users who need to input umlauts, accented characters, etc. All Debian packages will be configured to be 8-bit

Re: Debian 2.0 release requirements

1998-01-07 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Support of 8-bit characters by default Some programs need special configuration options to work 8-bit clean. This is very important for a lot of non-English users who need to input umlauts, accented characters, etc. All Debian packages will be configured to

Re: non-hub 10baseT connections

1997-12-30 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Thomas Lakofski wrote: You'd be surprised... I described a cross cable to a friend of mine, and told him that he'd have to go and get one made up or get some tools. He mailed me back 5 minutes later to tell me that he'd got it working. I asked him how, he said he'd pried the cable apart,

Re: Motif Software

1997-12-24 Thread Alex Yukhimets
It looks like you already have motif, right? In this case I would recommend using all packages dynamicaly linked with Motif (like ddd-dmotif, etc.) from contrib/ *and* hamm/contrib/. Since Motif is not available for libc6 (glibc2) yet, all Motif packages, even from unstable tree should be libc5-

Re: Moving topics from debian-private (was Re: SPI money out)

1997-12-18 Thread Alex Yukhimets
On 18 Dec 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: Remember there are people that can't stand Emacs. Strange... :) Nothing strange. After a couple of _years_ of struggling in attempts to learn emacs (I made about 6 attempts total) I found a *great* relief in... vi (vim actually). I was able to get

Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts'

1997-12-17 Thread Alex Yukhimets
And there is one thing which I would qualify as a mistake in the above description: $2 is actually in the form /dev/ttyS1 than just ttyS1. Doh! I wish they wouldn't do that. I guess it's for some kinda security? ...A. P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]URL:http://www.onShore.com/ Well, as it

Re: Moving topics from debian-private (was Re: SPI money out)

1997-12-16 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Please let noone think that just because that absurd and awful suggestion was the last thing anyone said that everyone is happy with it. Rather, the rest of us have more important things to do than to fight battles with people with broken mailers and broken ideas about how mailers ought to

Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts'

1997-12-16 Thread Alex Yukhimets
FWIW I've been using run-parts in ip-up and ip-down for some time now, the scripts reconfigure stuff based on my ip address (2 ISPs) etc. and everything works like a charm. I dunno about packages placing scripts in ip-[up|down].d/ -- I'd rather put them in /usr/doc/package/examples. One

Re: Linux on a i286

1997-12-11 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Is there a way I can get Linux to work on my old 286? There is an attempt to port Linux to 086 called ELKS. Look for it's link on LDP page (http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/). Last time I checked I still couldn't even boot it on my 286 though. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___

Re: [PGP]: can someone in NYC sign me?

1997-12-09 Thread Alex Yukhimets
I'm hoping to get my PGP keys signed by a known and registered debian developer in the NYC area so as to comply with the Debian Developer's Reference Section 1.2. I'm located in Manhattan; specifically on the Lower East Side. Any takers? Please reply to me offline. Thanks. ...A. P.

Re: libc5 backports problem

1997-12-07 Thread Alex Yukhimets
One problem with doing backports of libc5 packages is that dpkg-dev in bo doesn't seem to support pristine sources; it complained that the original wasn't in the .orig subdirectory. Although dpkg-dev from hamm works fine on bo since it is not libc dependent, it's still not possible to

Re: libc5 backports problem

1997-12-07 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Although dpkg-dev from hamm works fine on bo since it is not libc dependent, it's still not possible to backport on a completely-bo given this factor, unless I am missing something .. As far as I understand, you just told that you can use dpkg-dev from hamm to produce binary

Re: Re^2: fixhrefgz - tool for converting anchors to gzipped files

1997-06-29 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Moin Christoph! CL 200Mhz Pentiums are the standard fare today. And I am running CL the boa webserver for example on some low memory 486DX66s with I'm using a 486/100 and a 486SL/33. In my opinion we should avoid using the server to uncompress the files. We should find another solution.

Re: Re^4: fixhrefgz - tool for converting anchors to gzipped files

1997-06-29 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Am 29.06.97 schrieb aqy6633 # is5.nyu.edu an Marco Budde ... Moin Alex! AY Right, but does all WWW server offer this feature? We can't force the AY user to install a specific server. AY Why not? This could be a part of Debian documentation system. Because no admin would like to have

Re: How about e2compr? Was: fixhrefgz debate

1997-06-28 Thread Alex Yukhimets
I am really irritated by such insistence on a view my box at home and nothing else matters. We are not all just hacking for fun at home. Some people actually make their living with the stuff. I completely agree with you. But this is just some kind of a Debian sickness not to think of

Re: jdk packages

1997-06-24 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Whats the difference between the jdk packages and the jdk1.1 packages? I just found both in the archive. Well, jdk packages represent jdk 1.0.2, the other -- jdk 1.1.1 Java interpreter is 2 times faster in 1.1.1 plus much expanded API, but it is new and only a few browsers support it. Though

Re: Packaging questions regarding plan

1997-06-24 Thread Alex Yukhimets
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote: [snip] contrib. Try to run it on Lesstif and it won't work, because it will not find a Motif 2.0 library. Lesstif provides a Motif 1.2 lib. Yeah, but Lesstif was not meant to be *binary* compatible with real Motif, only *source code

Re: Packaging questions regarding plan

1997-06-24 Thread Alex Yukhimets
The reason we need virtual packages is so that we can allow people who (like myself) have gone out and bought real Motif to use it on Debian. I would be glad to throw away my Motif CD, and only use Lesstif. Last time I tried compiling Nedit against lesstif, the results were almost usable,

Re: Documentation Policy

1997-06-23 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Option 3: We ship .texi files and produce HTML and/or info files on demand (in the postinst script). Advantages: - No work for the maintainers. - Great flexibility (the sysadmin could even produce PostScript files when needed!). This is extremely good

Re: Packaging questions regarding plan

1997-06-23 Thread Alex Yukhimets
On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: What about the motif-dummy thingie we discussed? How can I run plan having Motif and not lesstif installed? Can you make sure it doesn't Depends: on lesstif, but rather on a virtual package 'motif-libs' which lesstif, and a

Re: Packaging questions regarding plan

1997-06-23 Thread Alex Yukhimets
I don't think that support for different Moitfs are needed. All known software despite of being compiled with Motif 2.0 does not use features not present in Motif 1.2 The reason for this is that big unices does not have Motif 2.0 actively shiped from the vendors yet and using Motif 2.0

dpkg-source problem ?

1997-06-22 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Hello,guys. At some point I found that when I try to execute dpkg-source -x *.dsc (for the most recent ddd in hamm) I got the error message: dpkg-source: error: diff contains unknown line `\ No newline at end of file' What could be the reason for that? And more, executing it on hello (!)

Re: Experiences with compiling Debian

1997-06-22 Thread Alex Yukhimets
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Re: Debian target audience

1997-06-18 Thread Alex Yukhimets
On Jun 16, Alex Yukhimets wrote I am sorry to say, but you are wrong. Even on this list there were several postings regarding this matter. There are several known problems and who knows how many unknown. You just can't afford to experiment with production system this way. Anyway, I

Re: Debian target audience

1997-06-17 Thread Alex Yukhimets
The problem of having both libc5 and libc6 run-time libraries is minor, the main one is that those stuck with libc5-dev cannot use other newly-available versions of *libraries* from hamm. How do you mean? You can install the *libraries* just fine, it's just the development versions that

Debian target audience

1997-06-16 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Hello all. Some time ago there was a posting on the list stating that typical Debian user is of SysAdmin type. The guy received a lot of negative responses and as a result we have now dotfile-generator in the distribution as our statement of being friendly to novices. Good thing, but what is

Re: Debian target audience

1997-06-16 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Alex Yukhimets: Debian is the effort of a large number of developers and primararily *for* developers. I disagree. I think Debian is for anyone who wants a good Linux system, and who doesn't need much non-free software

Re: Simple policy question...

1997-06-14 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Okay, so say some random person who has installed Debian wants XEmacs 19.15 because he needs some feature. This seems like a reasonable request... He could get it from the Hamm distribution, except that would mean he'd need libc6...and he doesn't want to do that, because he's heard that it

Re: libc6 policy in unstable

1997-06-14 Thread Alex Yukhimets
I'm not entirely certain I see why we need to remove libc5 packages from the system for Debian 2.0. While I agree that the primary packages should really be glibc, I don't see how a few lib5 packages are going to hurt the distribution Well, they won't hurt much, but they would: -

Re: libc6 policy in unstable

1997-06-14 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Of cource, there isn't such a list now (as far as I know, at least I guess that list would be empty now). Anyways, Debian just can't compete with commercial distributions which can allow to suppose that they are self-contained. Debian is NOT. Unlike RedHat (which has, for instance its

jdk1.1 - no dynamic Motif linkage package

1997-06-09 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Jim, why didn't you upload shared Motif library version of jdk1.1-runtime? I just wonder if there is any reason for that. Thanks. Alex Y. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Debian 1.3 and alien

1997-06-03 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Hi. In 1.3 release announcement Debian compatibility with rpm and Slackware packages mentioned 2 times. And one time it explicitly states that it is achieved via enclosed utility to convert mentioned packages to Debian format. (This is alien, right? :) How can we cope with the fact that

Re: just making sure we're all really this quiet

1997-06-01 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Is it me, or are the Debian lists really quiet? My secondary list server hasn't transferred a single thing from the primary server in several hours, perhaps even a day. Am I crazy, or did I break something? No you are not. During the last 24 hours I received only 2(!) debian