On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 11:57:21PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's not true. If it is possible to create game levels for it that are
free, than it is considered free. It's not like you can't get anything
but id's game data.
I think
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On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 06:23:31PM +0100, Mikael Hedin wrote:
Ben Collins writes:
Your package better use gcc, not gcc-3.0. Using anything other than the
default supported compiler gets you a bug report.
But it doesn't build with g++-2.95.
Then fix the build with that compiler. You
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 06:07:02PM +, Jules Bean wrote:
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 11:06:11AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 11:57:21PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's not true. If it is possible to create game
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 07:07:06PM +0100, Mikael Hedin wrote:
Ben Collins writes:
Start you own build on vore.debian.org and find it there.
Smart. You should be our leader ;-) Sorry for being rather stupid.
Anyway, g++-3.0 seems to be completely broken on sparc. int
main(){return(0
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 06:54:10PM +, Philip Blundell wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Collins writes:
Don't discount sparc just because the code is broken. That's a bug in
itself. Fix the code, get it to compile. SPARC is one of the most tested
archs we have, so if it is broken
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 07:35:59PM +, Jules Bean wrote:
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 01:42:41PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
gcc to meet those same requirements? You do realize that there are
plenty of free levels out there for quake2 right? We don't have to
distribute that same code just
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 12:40:06PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So if I create a game with _no_ levels, but the tools to create them,
then is it none-free? Just because the only ones available are non-free,
doesn't preclude that it is possible
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 10:48:09AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 01:42:41PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
blimpo:~# gcc
gcc: No input files
You have to write or get code for gcc. Should we deliver a hello.c with
gcc to meet those same requirements? You do realize
levels for it that are
free, than it is considered free. It's not like you can't get anything
but id's game data.
Ben
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On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:19:01PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit
This isn't a matter of not using it, it's a matter of a sane base
install. Perhaps base-config could ask if the user wants locales. Know
what? That question is being asked
interacton (yes/no, which locale etc.). IMO
this should be included as one of the first questions in baseconfig.
With an installed size of over 8megs, I don't think that is such a good
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On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 10:22:12AM +0300, Ari Makela wrote:
Ben Collins writes:
With an installed size of over 8megs, I don't think that is such a good
idea.
During the configuration phase we get a rough time zone
information. For example, I have
$ cat /etc/timezone
Europe
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 09:25:04AM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:16:25AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 08:24:43AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
#include hallo.h
Santiago Vila wrote on Mon Sep 03, 2001 um 02:21:04AM:
I think we can
we do now. The LSB needs to stay
away from trying to standardize a binary format (who cares if it's
tar.gz, ar or cpio). They will only piss people off.
Ben
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You'll notice that recent kernel-headers packages provide the
major.minor if the kernel version.
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of kernel headers in libc6-dev
that is)? Anyone got a solution for the -preX case, which would probably
make this method rock solid?
Ben
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That's wishful thinking, but I agree. I'm not sure it is possible
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browser to just view the contents as plain text.
Ben
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(Gloucester to be exact). My resume is
referenced below (I am a Debian developer).
http://marcus.seva.net/~bmc/resume/
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that things compiled
against the upstream soname will work.
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conformant to soname schemes, the
latter is. Gnome can use whatever it wants to link with it, but the
soname is still libdb3.so.3.
Ben
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On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:27:38AM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote:
At Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:59:24 -0400,
Ben Collins wrote:
I cannot find out why `libdb-3' is used and spreaded over the gnome
packages. Naming soname is sensitive issue, IMHO.
As I said the *upstream* soname is libdb-3.so
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broken, and people complain, is one reason
that things get fixed.
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On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:02:47AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Ben Collins wrote:
If we left everything to you have to be smart enough, then let's just
leave out the entire linux kernel, most of the software in Debian, and
go for a minimum cygnus install. Let's just
of packages take several hours to build, even on fairly
recent systems. Let the porter decide what to exclude in this case.
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in woody, and only in
stable?
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supposed to happen, and the actual fix was a
missing comma in the list of secure env vars that were supposed to be
cleared when a program starts up suid/sgid (including RESOLV_HOST_CONF).
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failures on non-release archs (those not in testing)
should be considered important, while build failures on release archs
(those in testing) should be considered serious.
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this, either keep it around from potato, or convince someone to
package it seperately.
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Aug 31, 2000 (my first changelog entry). So no, I have not
been sitting on this for 7 months. Get your facts straight.
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if you had
bothered to read it. There's no such thing as early access, this is
open source you know :)
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On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:47:55PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote:
Ben Collins wrote:
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:03:45PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote:
Happy new year to everyone!
gcc 2.95.3 appeared in Sid, but it hasn't been announced by the
GCC steering committee yet. Is this some
/share/doc
Exactly, except '6' should be Link /usr/doc to share/doc, so chrooted
systems can be more easily maintained.
Ben
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exit 1
fi
That should handle filesystem full errors a bit better.
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, but a CVS GCC?
Uh, GCC 2.95.3 CVS NOT 2.96 OR 2.97! Please be careful what you say. We
are talking about a stable release here, not a dripping wet development
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reference?
Because the upcoming 2.95.3 release is currently only available via a
CVS branch maybe?
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with
your concerns.
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to pam_start(),
and check the first argument passed to it. That is the service name, and
the name of the file expected in /etc/pam.d/
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into one
file, specific to that revision/arch.
Adam, don't put down a system that precedes dbs. It is tried and true
to it's purpose and solves things that DBS cannot.
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closable as is (already fixed), and the last was wishlist.
Put up or shut up (to use your unique vernacular), because if you
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to be unbootable, which I
hope is not your intention.
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? Without
package support, it is almost impossible without a system layer handling
it (snapshot of preinstall state, so you can revert completely back to it).
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the /usr/doc - share/doc symlink.
Ben
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On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 12:00:26PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote:
from the secret journal of Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Solution: just deal with the few spam we get so as not to hinder real
discussions.
Ben
amen.
OK, if you can do that, I'm absolutely thrilled to do
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:21:46AM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
Quoting Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
BTW, I'm on a 28.8, and I get over 1000 emails a day from all the lists I
am sub'd to. So I do see a lot of spam, even beyond Debian's lists. If I
can ignore it, so can everyone
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 12:38:58AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
Ben Collins wrote:
I think aside of one diff or many diffs a list of patches done to the code
and where you got them from is a good thing to have in every package.
Most patches are done by the maintainer, or submitted as bug
reports. Those
are listed in the changelog, but even then, it doesn't help dereference the
patched source to it's individual patches.
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, since in a few days, it wont matter. Db2 is getting removed
from glibc, and your only choice will be db.h or db2/db.h from libdb2
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On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 06:55:54PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
Ben Collins wrote:
That kind of packaging is a hack, and a very user unfriendly one. I'd
like
to have native bzip support, to have a lftp.orig.bz2.
lol, whoever said our source package format was user friendly to begin
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 07:43:07PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
Ben Collins wrote:
It doesn't matter if it's user-friendly. The DBS package format is not
developer-friendly.
But it's maintainer friendly, and that is far more useful for us to have
good packages.
I was using developer
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 08:26:37PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
Ben Collins wrote:
Still, documentation. Dpkg-source isn't friendly without documentation.
Nothing is.
Oh look, here's a tarball. Hm, and here is a patch that seems to apply
to it. Ok, I see a full source tree now and I'm on my
in and make the
end result suitable for everyone.
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woody releases, I want to remove the libdb2
dependency from libc6. It's only there for now to keep things from
breaking on running systems.
Ben
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On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:18:54PM +0200, J?rgen A. Erhard wrote:
Ben == Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ben On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 04:06:33PM +, michael d. ivey wrote:
I started making personal debs of the everybuddy CVS snapshots because
EB
releases tend to lag
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style setups. Yes,
it's sort of a hack, but it's a clean hack and the system provides much
more than a way to package up .bz2 tarballs.
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, and I
think most people feel the same way.
Ben
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, one of those being to support
bzip2 in the package format. However, I don't see it being used in
Debian's archives right away.
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On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 12:54:34AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Ben == Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ben Well, IMO, anything that goes on the Debian website better be
Ben created by free software. No offense, but if I start seeing
Ben Made with Macromedia or Designed
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:09:27PM +0600, Sergey I. Golod wrote:
Ben Collins wrote:
Yeah, but I guess it would take about twice the time to unpack. Please
don't do that to my poor 486 :-((
But extra size = extra traffic = extra money, that's worse. Unpack no
cost at all
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the same version as the
original kernel, then it replaced that package.
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down the m68k
errors, and now that you blew off that, it probably wont build on there
anymore.
Good job Ean. You've done an excellent job of maintaining a quality
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be handled a lot better AFA mirroring (before
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On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 07:43:48PM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote:
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote:
I've gotten reports that the ISO for CD#1 on sparc is completely broken.
Although the packages and dist files are there, the CD will not boot,
since almost none of the boot1 files
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the libc is not part of glibc at all, so that most likely needs
to be its own package.
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On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 06:42:59PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 10:09:30PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
Similarly, I have packaged devfsd
(http://www.atnf.csiro.au/~rgooch/linux/).
This one still needs a couple of problems ironing out first.
No offense, but I
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, they will not have their deps met for
potato. Woody on the other hand...
Anyhow, they should be removed.
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Package: ivtools (debian/main)
Maintainer: Guenter Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
57250 ivtools_0.7.9-5(frozen): build errors
Changelog for 0.7.9-6 says this is fixed, so I've closed it.
Ben
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59420 kaffe_1:1.0.5e-0.3(frozen): bad register names on m68k
NMU'ing this one (again)
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61389 silo: newer version available for better cd boot support
Maintianer asked me to NMU, already done and in incoming.
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 08:19:39PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Ben Collins wrote:
Package: gap4-doc-dvi (debian/non-free)
Maintainer: Markus Hetzmannseder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
60695 gap4-doc-dvi depends on nonexistent package
Package: gap4-doc-html (debian/non
be greatly appreciated. Otherwise, I'll do
my best to get this fixed sometime this weekend.
Build in progress, will be uploaded soon.
Ben
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is that various versions of sane and xsane were not compiled with the
appropriate libgimp libraries on non-i386 platforms.
Which gimp libraries should they be using?
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if such a
situation exists using the same check?
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on alpha
Likewise?
Couldn't be more wrong. Bugs are bugs...a package with a serious bug on a
supported arch, affects that package period, no matter what arch you are
talking about.
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 01:02:46PM -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
According to Ben Collins:
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 11:12:27AM -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
May I assume that the latter two bugs will not delay the release of
potato for i386?
Couldn't be more wrong. Bugs are bugs
Sorry, simple reply for the sake of testing out poor mail server.
Ben
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