Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
On Tue, Mar 24 2009, Ben Finney wrote:
If the spec is being bruited under the understanding that
the flaws do not matter
Who's doing that? Of course the flaws matter.
So answering criticism of the current spec with well
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Those who don't like the very *idea* of a machine-parseable format
for .debian/copyright ? apparently exist, but I don't understand
their position yet :-)
I'd
Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes:
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Are you saying that you don't want any BSD packages or that
you're trying to make Debian out of only packages using GNU
licences?
I would find it useful
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* Display of the copyright notices, license grant and terms (in
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All of what you've demonstrated is part of what Mike covered with
???one has to go through all of the source files anyway???, is it
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The page mentions, in several places now, the desire to set up a
discussion forum to continue the discussion away from the page; once
that's set up I'll be happy to pitch in and clear the weeds from
that page.
I have cleared away the discussions
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes:
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It is a too complex, overengineered solution to a very minor issue.
I find it very surprising that someone can be a Debian developer and
consider copyright of works to be ???a very minor
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I am working from the assumption that we need, at least in
principle, to maintain an accurate knowledge of the copyright
status of the works we distribute in Debian. I base that
assumption on the necessity
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
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The point is that, since we can predict the need for this
information, we have the choice of assuming the information is
there when we distribute and never looking for it until the need
arises
UNKNOWN of course...
Is such reference to external file sufficient for source files to be
packed for Debian?
What is needed is an explicit copyright notice and grant of license.
An example:
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I find the structure [in the proposed copyright file format] makes
it far easier to write and check than the free-form chaos of many
existing files. What would you
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That would likely make it much harder to fix
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=== modified file 'policy.sgml'
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Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes:
Quilt make it easy to refresh any patch to the expected format
with quilt refresh -p1 (or -pab).
I'm a complete neophyte at Quilt, and am using it only to apply
patches that I've already created
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More specifically, I'm not the one using Quilt *at all*. The patches
are created from my VCS, stored in the ‘debian/patches/’ directory
separate from the upstream source, so there isn't anything for them
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Yes, that could be done. It needs to be done by every user, for
every patch that they ever create for consumption with
‘dpkg-source’. Which is why I was hoping for a way to fix it in
one place, for ‘dpkg
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How can I reliably inform the Debian packaging tools that my quilt
patches are in ‘patch -p0’ format?
You don't want to use -p0 otherwise you'll get bugs from buxy about
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My first impression is that, if buxy can't handle a ‘-p0’ patch,
that's a bug.
My apologies, I thought ‘buxy’ was perhaps the name of some service on
the Debian project
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* Invoke the appropriate VCS tool to export the specified revision
from the VCS repository URL to a temporary directory.
* Pack the temporary directory to an appropriately-named tarball
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Debian's policy §4.9 discusses a ‘debian/rules’ target named
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What of those that use an OpenID provider not on the whitelist? […
What of non-DDs who do not necessarily have an account on any of those
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What reference do you have for [a Unix-wide scope for the FHS]? My
recollection of the FHS purpose from its inception was that it was
limited to GNU/Linux, just as now.
For example
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How does this follow? Surely if the firmware is already being
distributed by the project, that's a *smaller* incentive to the
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On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 09:17:56AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
Anything which we propose to distribute as part of Debian must
follow the DFSG rules; otherwise, we violate our promises in the
Social Contract. There's nothing special about
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Wrong. You can help Ben Finney testing his packages. That would be
much more useful than useless babbling on mailing lists.
Of course that’s Ben Hutchings. Sorry for mistaking you
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I might not have said it clearly enough:
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