Re: LILO 21.6-2

2001-01-05 Thread Chris Rutter
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Russell Coker wrote: You don't have sym-links to the root directory? Why not? There's absolutely no need or necessarily a desire to do so; besides which, the point is moot: if you're in the automation arena, you'll notice that kernel-package no longer produces them. Trying

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-19 Thread Chris Rutter
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:14:24 Ben Armstrong wrote: For the most part, I think there is enough flexibility within Debian to pick and choose the smallest tools that will do the job from among the binary packages. Where Debian currently falls short, we can create -tiny versions of packages as

Re: Embedded Debian (was: compaq iPaq)

2000-08-19 Thread Chris Rutter
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:22:12 Glenn McGrath wrote: hmm, im not sure its practical to create extra binary packages, wouldnt it be more effective to exclude files from regular packages as its installed. I was suggesting that the script would create them on-the-fly -- they wouldn't reside

Re: Swap setup on Debian

1999-10-01 Thread Chris Rutter
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Staffan Hamala wrote: Why doesn't the installer use -v1 so that larger swaps that 128MB can be used? I presume this is a boot-floppies issue, and will indeed be rectified nearer release time -- for the time being, it would seem prudent not to sacrifice any compatibility

Re: Is XEmacs nonfree?

1999-10-01 Thread Chris Rutter
On 30 Sep 1999, David Coe wrote: Is that still an accurate description of the legal status (from FSF's perspective) of XEmacs, and if so, shouldn't we move it to non-free? Yes, probably; but no. RMS is referring to the fact that many authors of many pieces of xemacs haven't assigned

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-28 Thread Chris Rutter
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: b) if you know what you are doing, compile the packages by hand, fix their install scripts, and remove the conflicts. You are trying to circumvent the norm. But I think, to be fair, that what he's proposing *isn't* necessarily `not the norm' --

Re: A few changes

1999-09-27 Thread Chris Rutter
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Matthew Vernon wrote: This is all very well, except for those of us who email from work, and have their PGP key at home... Well, depending on how paranoid you may be, there are a few solutions: * Keep a copy of at least your `secring.pgp' on a floppy disk, and use

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-27 Thread Chris Rutter
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Clint Adams wrote: They both provide httpd; should I file bugs against them demanding that they conflict with it too? I think this is a good point; it doesn't seem to be a clear area of policy. It sounds like perhaps some new system needs to be implemented. Perhaps a

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-27 Thread Chris Rutter
On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Raul Miller wrote: Perhaps there are people who want a service enabled by default policy, and perhaps we should accomodate them. However, I'm not one of them and I don't want any services turned on on some of my machines without my explicit ok. Yes, and I think this is

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-27 Thread Chris Rutter
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Brian May wrote: However, if both packages contain a different implementation of the same file (or even worse - a completely different program with the same name), then things will break, depending on what order the programs are installed in. This is true, and would need

Re: A few changes

1999-09-20 Thread Chris Rutter
On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Michael Stone wrote: Definately by package. I can think of several circumstances where this is useful: when a bug is closed in unstable but someone using stable wants an explanation for a problem; when a bug is inadvertantly reintroduced; when a maintainer closes a bug

Re: Binary Deb 'Diffs'

1999-09-17 Thread Chris Rutter
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Jordan Mendelson wrote: Just a quick idea, instead of having to download an entire package where 95% of the files don't change, what about downloading a type of binary diff? I can think of two ways to do it: I've wanted something like this for a while -- I was also

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Chris Rutter
On 16 Sep 1999, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: I would _hope_, however, that being face to face might have the opposite effect. Yes, I agree, and in all likelihood I think that's what'll happen. :) -- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( http://www.fluff.org/chris )

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Chris Rutter
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: Having a big convention would be really awfull, but it's difficult to get sponsors and much more difficult to gather developers from all over the world. What about a series of smaller conferences? We can have Debian Europe, Debian America

Re: Bug o' the week

1999-09-17 Thread Chris Rutter
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Michael Stone wrote: How much trouble would it be to add another category--unreproduced or somesuch? Yes, or `observational', `possible', that sort of thing. I agree. -- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( http://www.fluff.org/chris )

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-17 Thread Chris Rutter
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, David Bristel wrote: With this in mind, I think that having a configuration variable for apt that would allow the downloaded .deb files to be put in a user defined place. This way, if your /var is close to being full, you could, for example, drop it into a temporary

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-17 Thread Chris Rutter
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote: The 2.0.37 and 2.2.x kernels keep hanging on my AMD K6-2. This sounds *bad*, BTW; have you checked around to see if anyone else has had these kinds of freezing problems? Is your machine unstable in any other way? You may find all you need to do is

Re: ProFTPd being lame

1999-09-17 Thread Chris Rutter
Re: all the bug-finding in ProFTPd (I just read the SuSE notice about it being dropped for lameness reasons, including it *still* being vulnerable to remote exploit) -- if it is, indeed, *that* bad (and the common consensus among admins I know is that it is), perhaps the netkit ftpd shouldn't come

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Chris Rutter
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Remco van de Meent wrote: Uhm, don't forget that in .nl there is only one campus university like the ones widespread in the USA. And moreover (I currently live on that campus) there ain't that many free dorm rooms during summer (people tend to stay on campus during

Re: Move proftpd to contrib

1999-09-17 Thread Chris Rutter
On 17 Sep 1999, Martin Bialasinski wrote: OK, a bug in cron has recently produced a root exploit. What a crappy software, it should be moved to contrib. Yes, but there aren't *hundreds* of bugs in cron, all giving security problems; it has been subject (presumably) to security review; bugs

Re: history (Was Re: Corel/Debian Linux Installer)

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Rutter
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Jonathan Walther wrote: drives. But given they are in such a vast minority, the current scheme of providing sensible defaults and popping the installer into a tool for creating your own arbitrary partition scheme is really the best. (at least, Im ASSUMING we do that the

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Rutter
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Joey Hess wrote: Wouldn't it be great if all the debian developers could be flown in to a convention site, get to meet each other, really tighten up the gpg web of trust, attend talks by developers, discuss important issues in person, and so on? It would really make us

Re: debian O'Reilly book cover is up

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Rutter
On 16 Sep 1999, Steve Dunham wrote: All of their Linux books use a rodeo/cowboy theme rather than the traditional animal theme. I have no idea why. I kinda prefer the animals, but maybe they were running out? Last time I asked I got some mutter about `brand pollution' or something.

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Rutter
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote: Is it possible to build 2.0.x kernels under a reasonable potato build environment ? I tried make CC=gcc272, but I still get failures from the assembler, I think. Erm, yeah, I had no problems as I remember. Just apply the patches mentioned at

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Rutter
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote: The link to suse doesn't work at the moment, but I'll give it a try. The blurb at cygnus does not look encouraging. I think it is claiming that I have to to change asm constructs at various unspecified places in the source. Nah, they're just

Re: Increasing regularity of build systems

1999-09-15 Thread Chris Rutter
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Paul Slootman wrote: If all I'm doing is trying fix something, usually just invoking 'make' will do it (or some subtle variation that a glance at the rules file will make clear). Once it builds, I do 'debian/rules clean' and then restart the package build, to ensure

w only giving `-' as the FROM field

1999-09-15 Thread Chris Rutter
For months now, `w' has only reported `-' (well, *almost* all the time, anyway) in the FROM field for any connections made through `telnetd'. Finally, with the update to PAMed `login', I once again have the hostnames correctly appearing in FROM again. Does anyone know why this wasn't working for