Re: Architectures where unaligned access is (not) OK?

2014-11-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Vincent Bernat wrote: ❦ 21 novembre 2014 17:34 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org : I thought there was a flag bit you could set on x86 that causes unaligned access to trap there too. 1. CR0.AM must be set. 2. Ask For The Pain! i386

Re: making dput a wrapper around git

2014-11-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, Daniel Pocock wrote: How would people feel if dput was a wrapper around git? dpkg --purge dput -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon

Re: init system policy

2014-11-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: trying to convert minidlna sysv init file to systemd, managed to have a working unit file but failed to split the configuration mimicing the ../default/minidlna content with the hability to make USER and GROUP configurable.

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Ron wrote: Anything that doesn't store the full debian version (be it a git tag or a filename) will have a colision risk. Consider a package that has versions 1:2.3.5-1 and 5:2.3.5-1. Right, that was one of the first cases I mentioned. When you upload 5:2.3.5-1,

Re: Pre-Depends: init-system-helpers

2014-11-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote: Having a single tool that does the basic stuff admins and maintainers need independent of init system seems like the right approach to me. *-rc.d is a terrible name for such a tool, though :( Err, yes. There were complains about the -rc.d prefix way

Re: Pre-Depends: init-system-helpers

2014-11-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote: If deb-systemd-* were to get merged in, it might be worth doing a name change at the same time, I guess. Changing either before jessie doesn't seem remotely plausible. I wonder if it would make sense to just merge it all into the service command;

Re: Pre-Depends: init-system-helpers

2014-11-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:38:04PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote: If deb-systemd-* were to get merged in, it might be worth doing a name change at the same time, I guess. Changing either before

Re: Pre-Depends: init-system-helpers

2014-11-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 09:22:39AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Anthony Towns a...@erisian.com.au writes: BTW, it occured to me that it seems like a wart that update-rc.d doesn't respect policy-rc.d -- as it stands, policy-rc.d can prevent a service

Re: Pre-Depends: init-system-helpers

2014-11-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes: I think I heard of someone using them *once*. It is very rare, AFAIK. However, if there is one thing I learned the hard way, is that people who use the advanced features don't make themselves

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Ron wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 03:49:56PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2014, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: What exactly is your use case you feel this is essential for? I think this discussion

Re: unblock request by adsb?

2014-11-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Nikolaus Rath wrote: Ignoring block request by freeze, due to unblock request by adsb I'm a little confused by that. What is adsb? Do we have some mechanism finger a...@db.debian.org :-) that automatically unblocks packages? Or is this just the release team monitoring

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 15 Nov 2014, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: What exactly is your use case you feel this is essential for? I think this discussion is in danger of going round in circles. I'm going to leave it here and let Raphael get on with it. I understand

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 15 Nov 2014, Ron wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 03:39:05PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Ron writes (Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories): Why include the epoch in tags at all? Because we want to be able to tell not just which tag was which but

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Richard Hartmann wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Tobias Frost wrote: One point came to my mind: NMUs Can we maybe add some words what would be best practice to handle NMUs? I think the current

Assinatura de chaves durante PTTForum 8, IPv6 Brasil, GTER 38

2014-11-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Senhores(as), Estamos organizando um encontro rápido em São Paulo para troca de assinaturas de chaves gnupg. DDs que precisam de assinaturas em suas novas chaves estão *especialmente* convidados :-) O encontro será na hora do almoço, nas proximidades dos Shoppings Morumbi e Market Place, em um

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: In fact, I was quite non-amused by the initial versions of this idea, but reading this latest version, I must say I *like* it. Well done! I am especially happy about the way it respects

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Rogério Brito wrote: On 2014-11-11 15:30, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: However, candidate packages due to reason (c) above really are a problem, IMHO they shouldn't be in stable in the first place. Does this mean that I should ask for the removal of youtube-dl

Re: veto?

2014-11-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, Daniel Pocock wrote: It is very sad to see that contributors sometimes feel that the only option for them is to resign. Would it be worthwhile giving people another option, for example, allowing a percentage of DDs to formally veto decisions? Would this be better than

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Rebecca N. Palmer wrote: Possible candidates: a. Packages that work closely with hardware, where old versions don't work with new hardware (example: beignet) b. Packages that implement fast-evolving file formats or network protocols, where you need the same version as the

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: Simon McVittie writes (Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy): On 11/11/14 15:55, Ian Jackson wrote: perhaps we should in general make more use of testing chroots for RC bugfixes to testing during the freeze. For

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Daniel Pocock wrote: On 11/11/14 18:30, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Rebecca N. Palmer wrote: Possible candidates: a. Packages that work closely with hardware, where old versions don't work with new hardware (example: beignet) b. Packages

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Luca Falavigna wrote: 2014-11-11 19:12 GMT+01:00 Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu: Depends: libc6 (= 2.4), r-base-core (= 3.1.2-2) Hmmm, this is what I missed. :-( I guess the only chance is to upload to t-p-u, right? That could be an option. You have to coordinate

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Raphael Hertzog wrote: following the initial discussion we had in August (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/08/thrd2.html#00499), I have written a first draft of the Debian Enhancement Proposal that I suggested. It's now online at http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep14

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Iustin Pop wrote: QUESTION: some people have argued to use debian/master as the latest packaging targets sometimes sid and sometimes experimental. Should we standardize on this? Or should we explicitly allow this as an alternative? Interesting. Assuming a normal

Re: building against Clang (was: Legitimate exercise of...)

2014-10-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Speaking of which: Is it Policy or just habit to use GCC over Clang? gcc still generates better machine code than clang in the *general* case for C source (I don't know about the rest). There is no policy to use gcc: if your program builds better

Accepted iucode-tool 1.1.1-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2014-10-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:02:42 -0200 Source: iucode-tool Binary: iucode-tool Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.1.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed-By: Henrique

Re: Removing conffiles AND directories in /etc

2014-10-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Santiago Vila wrote: So, dpkg-maintscripthelper seems to do Removing obsolete conffile after dpkg tries to delete old directories, so dpkg fails. I'd be surprised if I were the first to encounter this problem: what is the appropriate and clean way to get rid of

Re: Enable external repository on package installation

2014-10-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: Do you want to enable an external repository which will provide you with the latest version of Wt? That behaviour is discouraged in Debian. We don't mind if you offer the PPAs, but the official packages should *NEVER* enable PPAs or offer to do

Re: Removing conffiles AND directories in /etc

2014-10-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org, 2014-10-26, 10:57: rmdir /etc/foo/bar/ /dev/null 21 || true is always a safe operation... Instead of ignoring (and hiding) all errors, it's better use --ignore-fail-on-non-empty. That's a GNU coreutils

Re: GPL-3 openssl: provide a -nossl variant for a library

2014-10-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Jelmer Vernooij dixit: Samba is unlikely to add such an exception. So just make OpenSSL a system library finally. It has always been a system library in Debian. The problem is that Debian is the operating system distributing the system libraries,

Accepted intel-microcode 3.20140913.1 (source amd64) into unstable

2014-10-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:23:13 -0200 Source: intel-microcode Binary: intel-microcode Architecture: source amd64 Version: 3.20140913.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: In any case, users _do_ have a say. They can force their systems to remain on sys5 init, or switch to a different distro if that should also turn out Which, I should add, is something we measure if the user installs popularity-contest and opts-in to

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: In any case, users _do_ have a say. They can force their systems to remain on sys5 init, or switch to a different distro if that should also turn out Which, I should add

Re: bugreports to systemd are getting rejected

2014-10-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 10 Oct 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: We probably should be just using sane security to score the messages instead of outright rejecting them... but the war on spam is hard. Speaking as someone that was the postmaster of several sites that used the Sanesecurity database for years. There is

Re: Bug#720517: configuration files, ownership and dpkg-statoverride

2014-10-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014, Paul Gevers wrote: Thanks for the careful response. And no, as mentioned above, I didn't mean to use dpkg-statoverride itself. dbconfig-common uses debconf and ufc to manage the configuration files. However, dbconfig-common checks with dpkg-statoverride if the

Re: Bug#720517: configuration files, ownership and dpkg-statoverride

2014-10-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014, Paul Gevers wrote: I am trying to come up with a patch against dpkg-statoverride that sets the ownership and permissions upon creation, but not upon updates. This really doesn't look like a good idea. In fact, it may well introduce very confusing and likely dangerous

Re: bash exorcism experiment ('bug' 762923 763012)

2014-10-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014, Russell Stuart wrote: On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 00:04 +, brian m. carlson wrote: The shell you're describing is posh. It implements exactly those features, and nothing more. You've got me to look at posh. Thanks for that. So we do have a shell that developers can

Re: Bug#762839: bash without importing shell functions from the environment

2014-09-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Thorsten Glaser wrote: On Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: In any case, adding -p to any #!/bin/bash shebang line looks like a very good idea. Shall we add a Lintian check for this? ***ABSOLUTELY NOT*** The -p option is for the shell to *not* drop

Re: Bug#752450: ftp.debian.org: please consider to strongly tighten the validity period of Release files

2014-09-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Now to deal with your concern of larger outages: 2) Just because there are no valid [In]Release* files, it doesn't mean that those mirrors and their repositories can't be used any longer. The data is still there as it was before. An

Re: Bug#752450: ftp.debian.org: please consider to strongly tighten the validity period of Release files

2014-09-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: So, can we get now some alternative proposals that address the fact that some mirrors need 48H validity, and many leaf mirrors really want at least a week? How about Security updates are published on security.d.o, so _that_ archive's validity

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, Riku Voipio wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:18:02PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: OTOH, using -z9 on datasets smaller than the -z8 dictionary size *is* a waste of memory (I don't know about cpu time, and xz(1) doesn't say anything on that matter

Re: versions / suffixes in experimental

2014-09-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, Simon McVittie wrote: Approach 1, which is (IMO) better when the changes you are making in experimental are truly experimental, like enabling features or patches whose medium-term future you're not sure about: 2.2.5-5+exp1, ... or -6~exp1, ... or whatever to experimental

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 09/02/2014 09:39 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: For -z9, it is as bad as ~670MiB to compress, and ~65MiB to decompress. I'd say this really depends on what you do. For what I do (eg: OpenStack packages), I don't see how 65MB could

Re: Aborting installation on unsupported systems

2014-09-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:02:24PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: You might want to pop up a preinst debconf notice which tells the admin that the package will not run here (with an option to fail the install if it's an honest mistake). This

Accepted iucode-tool 1.1-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2014-09-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:54:33 -0300 Source: iucode-tool Binary: iucode-tool Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed-By: Henrique

Accepted autotools-dev 20140911.1 (source all) into unstable

2014-09-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:07:31 -0300 Source: autotools-dev Binary: autotools-dev Architecture: source all Version: 20140911.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed

Re: Bug#759849: multipath-tools: FTBFS: uxsock.c:20:31: fatal error: systemd/sd-daemon.h: No such file or directory

2014-09-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: My inclination is to ship both, the systemd service files and the init scripts, in their current form along with whatever limitations each may have, and let the user choose. I did not get any comment on this. How are others doing similar stuff

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 01:45:30PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: For any standardish font, taking any extra memory is a no-no. You might be running in a chroot on a 256MB RAM phone, etc. On the other hand, for a 400MB game, not using -z9 is a

Re: Help request: intel-microcode and old Intel processors

2014-08-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: I'd like to know whether the kernel microcode update is working well on some of the older Intel 32-bit processors or not. These computers were sold between years 2000 and 2010. This information will be used to decide the level

Re: Help request: intel-microcode and old Intel processors

2014-08-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Andrea Bolognani wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 03:49:06PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: I'd like to know whether the kernel microcode update is working well on some of the older Intel 32-bit processors or not. These computers were sold between years 2000

Help request: intel-microcode and old Intel processors

2014-08-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
I am the maintainer of the intel-microcode and iucode-tool packages, used to update the microcode[1] on Intel system processors (CPU chip). I'd like to know whether the kernel microcode update is working well on some of the older Intel 32-bit processors or not. These computers were sold between

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 07:28:51PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: Also, it makes me somewhat uncomfortable to assume that a git tag in the upstream repo will always be equivalent to their released tarball. In fact, it's often not, as is the case with

Re: First steps towards source-only uploads

2014-08-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014, Hector Oron wrote: 2014-08-15 16:04 GMT+02:00 Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org: I have encountered a situation where the FTBFS bug was caused by segfault in other package. This has forced me to split opendnssec-doc to arch:all package (which was good thing anyway), so there

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: On Mon, 18 Aug 2014, Thorsten Glaser wrote: This does not work in Debian: you always need the .orig.tar.* file, at least for the upload, for non-native packages. You need it from somewhere, but the whole point of pristine-tar is that you can

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014, Thomas Goirand wrote: Obviously, when upstream are already doing everything correctly, creating the upstream/version tag should not become some administrative chore but it could be done automatically as part of a some gbp upstream-merge upstream-tag command for

Re: systemd service and /etc/default/

2014-08-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014, Marc Haber wrote: Please. The attitute of requiring Debian maintainers to modify upstream software instead of having simple two-line extension to an init script is really unfriendly. Why do only systemd friends keep recommending this? Using my sysvinit hat, I've always

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 08/17/2014 03:52 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: - the above layout is for the traditional case of non-native packages, what would be the layout for native packages? how can be differentiate

Re: First steps towards source-only uploads

2014-08-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Hector Oron wrote: Even building arch:all packages in one architecture might solve the issue, I do not like that approach, as it holds other arches from building until that primary arch has built arch:all packages. I

Re: First steps towards source-only uploads

2014-08-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Ondřej Surý wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2014, at 15:37, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: And any package that cannot build arch:all on a released arch for which it produces binary packages potentially has a FTBFS bug, anyway, which can be reported by any interested parties

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - how do we tag the package releases? - pkg/version (note: git-buildpackage uses debian/version but I find this confusing - shall we standardize the pristine-tar branch? IMHO it should be reserved for pristine-tar usage (as in don't use it

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Christian Kastner wrote: On 2014-08-15 16:16, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - pkg/version (note: git-buildpackage uses debian/version but I find this confusing as we then also have the debian/ prefix for ubuntu or kali uploads, we don't need the vendor prefix as the

Re: Bug#758231: rsyslog: is priority important, depends on packages with priority extra

2014-08-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 15.08.2014 17:47, schrieb Gerrit Pape: Package: rsyslog Version: 8.2.2-3 Severity: serious Justification: Policy 2.5 Hi, the current rsyslog package version in testing is priority important and depends on packages with priority extra.

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Steve Langasek wrote: The alternative is handwaving and ignoring the fact that your package repository is not a complete representation of your package as it exists in the archive. What's wrong with storing the upstream tarballs themselves on a separate branch, if you're

Re: Bug#757980: ITP: cryptography -- cryptography is a package which provides cryptographic recipes and primitives to Python developers.

2014-08-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014, Brian May wrote: * Package name: cryptography ... I imagine the binary package will be called python{,3}-cryptography. Haven't got to this step yet. Wouldn't it be better to also have the source package name in the python- namespace? Its using a dictionary word for

Accepted iucode-tool 1.0.3-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2014-08-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:22:07 -0300 Source: iucode-tool Binary: iucode-tool Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.0.3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed-By: Henrique

Re: [CTTE #717076] Default libjpeg implementation in Debian

2014-08-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 09 Aug 2014, Bill Allombert wrote: 3. libjpeg8 adds new features to the JPEG image format. These have however been rejected from the ISO standard, and their contributions to image quality and compression appear to be widely disputed. This is not really relevant.

Re: [CTTE #717076] Default libjpeg implementation in Debian

2014-08-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 09 Aug 2014, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: This is not really relevant. What is relevant, however, is that nobody is disputing that libjpeg8 produce higher quality images than libjpeg62 when decompressing standard JPEG images. If this is true, it is a concern: at least

Re: packages using non-standard ports

2014-08-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 02 Aug 2014, Josh Triplett wrote: How easily could you teach syslog-nagios-bridge to listen on a UNIX domain socket, instead of or in addition to a TCP socket? You could then have it listen on /run/syslog-nagios-bridge by default, and have rsyslog automatically forward messages there.

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Norbert Preining wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Reinhard Tartler wrote: In [1], Moritz from the security team clearly stated that he is more than uncomfortable with having more than one copy of libavcodec in debian/testing. In consequence this means that any package that

Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I plan to try and get them to use symbol versioning, at least on those platforms that support it. This will probably be just like Thank you. the patch currently in Debian. I don't plan to add multiple versions of a symbol to try and keep the same

Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 02:09:55PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I plan to try and get them to use symbol versioning, at least on those platforms that support it. This will probably be just like

Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz

2014-07-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Nathan Schulte wrote: ASCII hex encodes 4 bits as 8 (or 7. but really 8.), as each ASCII character is a nibble of the digest; that's a 100% increase (factor of 2) over the bare digest (or a raw mapping of 8 bits of digest to an 8 bit character set). The figures given

Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz

2014-07-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Peter Palfrader wea...@debian.org, 2014-07-14, 20:25: The basic idea is that it's much harder to come up with a simultaneoush hash collision with both SHA-1 and SHA-2 than breaking either of them independently. ISTR reading papers that put this much

Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: for that (i.e. make sure that _everything_ in libressl is only exported with properly versioned symbols), again IMHO the time and effort required PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE take this to the portable libressl upstream *and make it true* for

Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I am, frankly, not at all concerned with binaries not compiled on Debian at this point. Data point: Fedora uses a different symbol versioning scheme for openssl, so openssl-linked binaries from there won't run on Debian anyway. It's far more

Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: Meanwhile, we could try to get ever distro with a clue together, map the versioned symbol diffs that already exist, and see if we can come up with a plan to at least do downstream versioning in a compatible way. Please, please, please speak

Re: possible MBF: automatically detecting unused build dependencies

2014-07-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 07 Jul 2014, Johannes Schauer wrote: MBF template email: --%--- Subject: Please consider removing the build dependencies on $foo, $bar and $baz Severity: wishlist Usertag: unusedbd User:

Accepted intel-microcode 2.20140624.1 (source amd64)

2014-06-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:35:12 -0300 Source: intel-microcode Binary: intel-microcode Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.20140624.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed

Re: Unicode 7.0 released - some packages contain outdated embedded data copies

2014-06-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Furthermore, with upstream *and* Debian maintainer hat on, I refuse to use a Debian-specific “special way” here. I will only fix this upstream (and there, there is no unicode-data package). Make it generic, instead. You could just automatize the

Re: use of RDRAND in $random_library

2014-06-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014, Joey Hess wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Now, the kernel can soft-blacklist RDRAND (and RDSEED) usage[2]. In that case, the kernel won't use it and it disappears from /proc/cpuinfo, and we could do that also to avoid processor errata, not just due to user

Re: use of RDRAND in $random_library

2014-06-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014, Joey Hess wrote: I don't have a stong opinion on the security of RDRAND, which is a contentious topic in a domain I am not expert in. However, I would much rather rely on linux developers to make the right decision on that, rather than libraries deciding on an ad-hoc

Re: Why not 03 ?

2014-06-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 06/02/2014 05:07 AM, Julien Cristau wrote: For a lot of scientific packages, the upstream authors don't know what they're doing. So I'm not sure that's much of an argument. [citation needed] Also, it's easy to just play with the -O option

Re: Why not 03 ?

2014-06-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014, Xavier Roche wrote: On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 10:36:01AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: As long as you have a way to regression-test. And I don't mean performance regressions, either. Although issues with -O3 are rare, they're not unheard of. Looking

Re: Why not 03 ?

2014-05-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: FWIW, the recent port of Ubuntu to ppc64el uses -O3 as the default, because IBM has broad experience in resolving performance issues for their own hardware and have found that -O3 gives an overall better experience for their customers. It will

Re: Bug#749099: ITP: conv -- Simple ASCII,binary,decimal,hex converter

2014-05-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Marcio de Souza Olivera m.desouz...@gmail.com, 2014-05-23, 23:53: * Package name: conv That's an awfully generic name... Agreed. And for something rather limited. Description : Simple ASCII,binary,decimal,hex converter How is it

Accepted iucode-tool 1.0.2-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 18:35:36 -0300 Source: iucode-tool Binary: iucode-tool Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.0.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed-By: Henrique de

Accepted autotools-dev 20140510.1 (source all)

2014-05-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 18:02:55 -0300 Source: autotools-dev Binary: autotools-dev Architecture: source all Version: 20140510.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed

Accepted intel-microcode 2.20140430.1 (source amd64)

2014-05-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 14:21:27 -0300 Source: intel-microcode Binary: intel-microcode Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.20140430.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed

Re: noexec goal for hardening Debian (was Re: Bug#746496: general: Package upgrade scripts partly fail when /tmp is noexec)

2014-05-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 02 May 2014, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh dixit: On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, Pierre wrote: When /tmp is configured as noexec (for example /tmp in RAM), some scripts fail on package update. […] It may look like it is working, but we don't properly support

Bug#746496: general: Package upgrade scripts partly fail when /tmp is noexec

2014-04-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, Pierre wrote: When /tmp is configured as noexec (for example /tmp in RAM), some scripts fail on package update. Don't Do It. It will break the system in surprising ways. It may look like it is working, but we don't properly support it, as it is almost never tested.

Re: Advice for how to make new things policy (was: ':any' syntax in package names in jessie/sid Packages)

2014-04-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, Charles Plessy wrote: things are too slow or not happening is the lack of manpower. See for example the documentation of the Dpkg triggers: we miss only one single Debian Developer to review the discussion and the patch in #582109 (I even offered to go piece by piece, see

Re: Having fun with the following C code (UB)

2014-04-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I never did understand what people expect. gcc uses the undefined Warn the hell out of any line of code with per-spec undefined behaviour, if not by default, at least under -Wall. THAT would be a good start. Too bad not even gcc knows every time it

Re: Having fun with the following C code (UB)

2014-04-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Mathieu Malaterre ma...@debian.org, 2014-03-27, 13:06: I preferred not to mass bug everyone out there and instead: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=742780 But many packages don't regenerate autofoo at build-time. :-( LFS is still

Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014, peter green wrote: Also ECDSA shares with DSA the serious disadvantage over RSA that making signatures on a system with a broken RNG can reveal the key. I believe that we should avoid ECDSA gnupg keys and subkeys like the plague for the time being. You'd most likely get

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Once I consider OpenRC ready for it, would it be ok to just replace sysv-rc by OpenRC, and transform sysv-rc into a transitional package? No, update-rc.d and invoke-rc.d still need to be provided by something. They *HAVE* to be provided by the

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes: They *HAVE* to be provided by the active init system. They are an impedance matching layer (aka stable API) used by maintainer scripts to interface with the active init system. If you look

Re: when will we finally throw away binary uploads (Re: Please upgrade your build environment when you are affected by transition

2014-02-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014, Philipp Kern wrote: That's why I was careful to publish the address nowhere. We do some Unfortunately, that cat is out of the bag, now. Whether it will get spammed or attacked, I don't know. However, it is not like we ever could trust the logs anyway for any security

Re: Ubuntu will switch to systemd

2014-02-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, Noah Meyerhans wrote: I'm not sure I understand why. Debian and Ubuntu have been using different init systems for some time now, with Ubuntu on upstart and Debian on sysvinit. Why should our change of defaults really matter to them, when they weren't using our default

Re: Ubuntu will switch to systemd

2014-02-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh Well, it is difficult to second-guess Shuttelworth, but the tight coupling is likely to be part of it. This was a non-issue with sysvinit (for Debian) and upstart (for Ubuntu), but with systemd we will have to get

Accepted intel-microcode 2.20140122.1 (source amd64)

2014-02-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 15:39:03 -0200 Source: intel-microcode Binary: intel-microcode Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.20140122.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org Changed

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