On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:00:01PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:49:48PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
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> > Who said that we were going to distribute them?
>
> If we don't distribute them, why in hell are we breaking mirrors by
> supporting them? So
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> They still suck, and they're still non-free.
Who said that we were going to distribute them?
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256 > /proc/sys/kernel/real-root-dev
umount -n /proc
umount -n /devfs
mount -nrt ext2 /dev/legolas/root0 /mnt
cd /mnt
pivot_root . initrd
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fig files.
> why are they needed?
For module builders.
> and while you're at it, how about answering the other questions that you
> ignored in my last message?
Which were?
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Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 09:37:55PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
>>
>> I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary
>> only modules.
> Call *me* a cretin, but wouldn't that be non-free?
>
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:15:03AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 07:24:13PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > How are they going to compile a kernel if they haven't even installed
> > Linux?
>
> that's obvious. by installing linux and then com
the autoconf.h file,
neither of which you can do without if you want to compile binary modules
with checksums.
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> I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary
> only modules.
I meant to say binary modules.
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)? Pointers to documentation to enlighten me
> are welcome.
I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary
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This is the important bit in
fact. The rest are (mostly) really static.
> Only in /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19/include/linux: modversions.h
> Only in /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19/include/linux: version.h
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e up a the netfilter source + patches and make a modules
package. The netfilter is modularised after all.
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and the user picks the new kernel. IF the kernel works, we switch
> the default.
How are they going to compile a kernel if they haven't even installed Linux?
The most important function of initrd is to reduce the number of kernel
images needed on boot floppies to one.
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They already are:
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ource, extract it to /tmp and set $KSRC?
You can't build-depend on a source package.
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David Spreen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:16:36PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
>> With the latest release, it's now down to about 80MB. In any case, we
>> never release with more than one old kernel, nor with experimental kernels,
>> so that
tep further, let's just distribute what's
in build-essential and let the users compile the rest. Let's rewind
the clock back to times when men were men, and they compiled everything
on their own box :)
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t; you seem to think that optimisations for specific ia32 sub-architectures
> are important enough to package...
How does this relate to what I said?
> there's good reason to worry about kernel modules now that there are
> known hax0r stealth modules which exist purely to hide the fact th
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On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:26:37PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:13:57PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
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> > You're ignoring our main disagreement. Which is whether most people
> > should use precompiled kernel images or recompile them.
>
>
maintain their packages, but run
this utility just before they upload.
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> On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Herbert Xu wrote:
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> > Which is why it should only be killed in prerm/preinst.
>
> Which makes all the supposed simple "restart" solution for the runlevel
> problem fai
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> On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 08:24:09AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
>> This occurs when apt-move first moves the packages in, which is why you m=
> ust
>> never move packages in by hand (at least not without doing an fsck later).
>
is why you must
never move packages in by hand (at least not without doing an fsck later).
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but it won't
>work (and may even be damaged) with the current X settings.
Single user mode.
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> want. Shall we make something like 700 default? It would break some
> things like "UserDir public_html" in Apache, etc. In my school server
You could make it 711.
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Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>"Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Herbert> And this is Debian where we have a policy that says #!/bin/sh
> scripts
> Herbert> need to be POSIX compliant.
> What policy s
eak.
And this is Debian where we have a policy that says #!/bin/sh scripts
need to be POSIX compliant.
> You cannot use it as a default shell without auditing all scripts.
I use it on all my systems and currently nothing breaks.
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> It parses command line -en different from bash. Different getopts ;-)
How does it differ? AFAIK, ash's getopts is POSIX compliant.
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> int bradon;
> __asm__(".align 2,0x90\n1:\tdecl %0\n\tjns 1b"
> : "=a" (=brandon): "0" (loops));
Make that
int brandon;
__asm__ __volatile__(".align 2,0x90\n1:\tdecl %0\n\tjns 1b"
:
gt; I am not an assembly guru on any architecture, but here's what I think this
> means. Please be warned that these could be the ravings of a deranged
> lunatic.
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> On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 05:55:38PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
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>> But I thought one of the main complaints was that /usr/sbin wasn't in the
>> PATH.
> Generally, maintainer scripts, and programs meant to be run by root
way (in posix sh) to invoke a
> command that should be in the path (but look before you leap) is this:
But I thought one of the main complaints was that /usr/sbin wasn't in the
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s easily due to its dynamic nature.
OTOH, if a relay doesn't do something about a spammer, it can easily be
blocked, thus giving a relay's admin a very strong incentive to act.
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ncing them against
> /proc//fd/*, but that's not a very attractive solution.
Which is essentially what netstat does with -p.
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to the dependency on fuser, hmm, now what's that thing called netstat(1)
which happens to be in your package and also happens to have a flag called
-p? :)
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w whenever he logs in from anywhere else in the world, he can
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h Standard package nfs-server
>> > Package: nfs-server (debian/main)
>> > Maintainer: Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > 59642 nfs-server: conflicts with Standard package nfs-kernel-server
>> Huh? Isn't this what it is expected to?
> They can
. I have a fixed version here. Whether
it will get into potato is up to the release manager.
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> and the new package does not update the inetd entry.
The reason is that the old netstd did not enable tftpd by default, while the
new tftpd package always enables tftpd.
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Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >The patent makes it non-free, so does the new license.
> Really? In my country RSA is not patented, why should I care about what
> happens in someone else country
rc.d -f gpm remove
Try editing /etc/init.d/gpm instead.
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On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 09:36:36PM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Herbert Xu wrote:
>
> > If anyone has seen an existing connection die, please report that as a bug.
>
> what against? "internet" ??
My message was about telnetd getting kill
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 07:06:10PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:15:54AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > I think the worst case would be a telnetd linked with a broken
> > shlib (or in the case of telnetd, perhaps a missing or broken
> > /usr/lib/t
nd they should be
upgraded (by whatever program that is in charge) one by one.
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d solve the original problem
> pretty well, it seems to me.
Anyway, back to the original problem, the best solution IMHO is just to
run telnet/ssh and screen so that none of this really affects you.
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updates, though :)
AFAIK ssh does exactly the same thing in its prerm.
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Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 10:06 +1000 1999-10-02, Herbert Xu wrote:
>>They use libssl, which begs the question why isn't libssl in non-US/non-free?
> Uh, because it isn't non-free?
Here's a quote from the policy:
`Non-free' contains
t; usefull as a security tool without a public key mechism, not to mention
> that existin ssh clients would not be able to securely connect to obsd-ssh
> servers :<
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it does not kill any existing
telnet connections. The same thing applies to other daemons being upgraded,
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't live in the USA) have a look/go...
The license issues seem to be sorted out for me. So I'll have a go at it.
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IO, etc.
Also, AFAIK, critical is listed above grave (and important and others) in
all the relevant docos that I've seen.
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> Herbert Xu wrote:
>>
>> I disagree. If a package causes a remote root exploit to be available, even
>> if it's only in a very specific configuration, I would say that it is
>> critical.
> No, it's grave.
es compiled with gcc272?
IMHO you should try to find the reason for it if at all possible, and only
consider gcc272 as a last resort.
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d a check?).
This is arguably a bug in dpkg since the upstream kernel actually sets
CC to include certain options.
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a patch...
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make: gcc: Command not found
> make: *** [scripts/mkdep] Error 127
Yes it does,
make bzImage HOSTCC=/usr/bin/egcs
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stuff like dependencies,
you need to set HOSTCC. But for the problem at hand, which is compiling the
actual kernel with gcc272, CC works just fine.
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e there is no reason why we can't have multiple identd's installed,
or multiple fignerd's, etc. as long as they don't overlap in their fs
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quite simpel acctually.
> What identd's are there?
> oidentd
> pidentd
> which else?
Please don't do the conflict thing, get pidentd and see how it deals with it.
Do the same in yours.
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> This goes for other (debian|upstream) versions as well.
You can easily override this on the command line or in the environment.
> BTW, is any 2.0.38 package planned?
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Just make sure that when you do throw it out, you take the bible with it :)
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e versions of 2.? kernels installed.
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ges of a source package, perhaps under the source package's
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> >
> >case "$x" in ( SystemV | posix | right )
> > ^
> >is causing this.
> Thanks; I'll remove it.
This is perfectly legal (although redundant). The slink ash was buggy but
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references, but i think this is the key one)
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>> > does anyone know what i'm supposed to do with this fds_bits thing?
You're supposed to inspect these things with the FD_* macros, try
man select
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> small HDD, libraries without locale, timezone info, nss, etc.)
It's because the maintainer decided to go against the policy and not strip
the libraries. This has already been reported as a bug against libc6 (#40467).
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that you're not using gcc272.
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etd does not write the utmp/wtmp records, it gets
login to do it as well as the authentication.
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ail when they do stupid things like this.
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> While the tone is a bit harsh, I agree with the idea. This is not worth
> holding up the release of Hamm for. The simplicity of the fix is not
> relevant.
Fine. If that's you want, you've got it.
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the sendmail from hamm, hell will break loose.
> Both the maintainer and I (as a concerned third party and maintainer of
> deliver) don't think this is important enough to hold up hamm.
But I do.
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brave is to remap those symbols in the .o file.
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l my time.
> FUD.
> I created PGP keys three years ago because I needed to sign Debian uploads.
But I don't think it was enforced until (relatively) recently.
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Joey Hess wrote:
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> > Not my fault. I can't even find the word contrib in my debian/ directory.
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> I'd assume it's a bad override file, then. Talk to Guy.
FWIW, the Packages file and master contains the right info. So I suspect a bad
mirror is
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> dpkg -s dosemu says:
> Package: dosemu
> Status: install ok installed
> Priority: extra
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> Version: 0.66.7-10
> Depends
ular
the tcp wrapper does so too.
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information for either overdrop or nestea - new bugs both afflicting linux.
netsea has been fixed in 2.0.33-7. overdrop only fills up your syslog file
which can be done anyway (say via ICMP redirects).
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> bug 21164 does not seem to be a bug in the libc.
> it is instead a kernel bug.
FWIW, I just tried it on my Debian 2.0 2.0.32 machine:
$ ./yyys
Killed
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> For now, most of these issues can be resolved by using symlinks. But
> sonames should be synchronized with Red Hat in the future.
Indeed, perhaps this should be put into our policy?
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