Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-24 Thread Herbert Xu
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:00:01PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:49:48PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > Who said that we were going to distribute them? > > If we don't distribute them, why in hell are we breaking mirrors by > supporting them? So

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-24 Thread Herbert Xu
ian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-24 Thread Herbert Xu
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:47:48PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > > They still suck, and they're still non-free. Who said that we were going to distribute them? -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-24 Thread Herbert Xu
256 > /proc/sys/kernel/real-root-dev umount -n /proc umount -n /devfs mount -nrt ext2 /dev/legolas/root0 /mnt cd /mnt pivot_root . initrd EOF -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROT

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-24 Thread Herbert Xu
fig files. > why are they needed? For module builders. > and while you're at it, how about answering the other questions that you > ignored in my last message? Which were? -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAI

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-24 Thread Herbert Xu
Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 09:37:55PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: >> >> I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary >> only modules. > Call *me* a cretin, but wouldn't that be non-free? >

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-23 Thread Herbert Xu
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:15:03AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 07:24:13PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > How are they going to compile a kernel if they haven't even installed > > Linux? > > that's obvious. by installing linux and then com

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-23 Thread Herbert Xu
the autoconf.h file, neither of which you can do without if you want to compile binary modules with checksums. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-23 Thread Herbert Xu
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary > only modules. I meant to say binary modules. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROT

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-23 Thread Herbert Xu
)? Pointers to documentation to enlighten me > are welcome. I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary only modules. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http:

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-23 Thread Herbert Xu
This is the important bit in fact. The rest are (mostly) really static. > Only in /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19/include/linux: modversions.h > Only in /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19/include/linux: version.h -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-23 Thread Herbert Xu
e up a the netfilter source + patches and make a modules package. The netfilter is modularised after all. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-23 Thread Herbert Xu
and the user picks the new kernel. IF the kernel works, we switch > the default. How are they going to compile a kernel if they haven't even installed Linux? The most important function of initrd is to reduce the number of kernel images needed on boot floppies to one. -- Debian GN

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
ine. They already are: apt-get source kernel-image-2.4.3-i386 -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
ource, extract it to /tmp and set $KSRC? You can't build-depend on a source package. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
David Spreen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:16:36PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: >> With the latest release, it's now down to about 80MB. In any case, we >> never release with more than one old kernel, nor with experimental kernels, >> so that

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
tep further, let's just distribute what's in build-essential and let the users compile the rest. Let's rewind the clock back to times when men were men, and they compiled everything on their own box :) -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{P

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
t; you seem to think that optimisations for specific ia32 sub-architectures > are important enough to package... How does this relate to what I said? > there's good reason to worry about kernel modules now that there are > known hax0r stealth modules which exist purely to hide the fact th

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-22 Thread Herbert Xu
Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-21 Thread Herbert Xu
GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-21 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:26:37PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:13:57PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > You're ignoring our main disagreement. Which is whether most people > > should use precompiled kernel images or recompile them. > >

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Herbert Xu
maintain their packages, but run this utility just before they upload. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt --

Re: RFC: fix for daemon start on package install/upgrade out-of-runlevel

2000-09-10 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:19:10AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > Which is why it should only be killed in prerm/preinst. > > Which makes all the supposed simple "restart" solution for the runlevel > problem fai

Re: RFC: fix for daemon start on package install/upgrade out-of-runlevel

2000-09-10 Thread Herbert Xu
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Re: apt-move problem

2000-09-08 Thread Herbert Xu
Michael Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 08:24:09AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: >> This occurs when apt-move first moves the packages in, which is why you m= > ust >> never move packages in by hand (at least not without doing an fsck later). >

Re: apt-move problem

2000-09-08 Thread Herbert Xu
is why you must never move packages in by hand (at least not without doing an fsck later). -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~he

Re: apt-move problem

2000-09-08 Thread Herbert Xu
id run apt-move fsck when you first upgraded didn't you? -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Herbert Xu
but it won't >work (and may even be damaged) with the current X settings. Single user mode. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.a

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-02 Thread Herbert Xu
erride file for debconf to become standard. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-09-02 Thread Herbert Xu
Roland Bauerschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > want. Shall we make something like 700 default? It would break some > things like "UserDir public_html" in Apache, etc. In my school server You could make it 711. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Em

Re: dpkg-scanpackages arguments, output Packages files, and apt

2000-08-31 Thread Herbert Xu
inux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Herbert Xu
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>"Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Herbert> And this is Debian where we have a policy that says #!/bin/sh > scripts > Herbert> need to be POSIX compliant. > What policy s

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Herbert Xu
eak. And this is Debian where we have a policy that says #!/bin/sh scripts need to be POSIX compliant. > You cannot use it as a default shell without auditing all scripts. I use it on all my systems and currently nothing breaks. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ )

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Herbert Xu
t! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Herbert Xu
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 10:10:04AM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: > > It parses command line -en different from bash. Different getopts ;-) How does it differ? AFAIK, ash's getopts is POSIX compliant. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV&g

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-17 Thread Herbert Xu
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Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-16 Thread Herbert Xu
an GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Intel Assembly error

2000-08-16 Thread Herbert Xu
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > int bradon; > __asm__(".align 2,0x90\n1:\tdecl %0\n\tjns 1b" > : "=a" (=brandon): "0" (loops)); Make that int brandon; __asm__ __volatile__(".align 2,0x90\n1:\tdecl %0\n\tjns 1b" :

Re: Intel Assembly error

2000-08-16 Thread Herbert Xu
gt; I am not an assembly guru on any architecture, but here's what I think this > means. Please be warned that these could be the ravings of a deranged > lunatic. Which they are, as usual. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~}

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-16 Thread Herbert Xu
imilar to how things were moved around when the FSSTND first came about. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-15 Thread Herbert Xu
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 05:55:38PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > >> But I thought one of the main complaints was that /usr/sbin wasn't in the >> PATH. > Generally, maintainer scripts, and programs meant to be run by root

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

2000-08-15 Thread Herbert Xu
way (in posix sh) to invoke a > command that should be in the path (but look before you leap) is this: But I thought one of the main complaints was that /usr/sbin wasn't in the PATH. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>

Re: DUL (was Re: RBL report..)

2000-04-03 Thread Herbert Xu
s easily due to its dynamic nature. OTOH, if a relay doesn't do something about a spammer, it can easily be blocked, thus giving a relay's admin a very strong incentive to act. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[

Re: Advice on inetd Denial of Service Bug

2000-03-30 Thread Herbert Xu
ncing them against > /proc//fd/*, but that's not a very attractive solution. Which is essentially what netstat does with -p. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Advice on inetd Denial of Service Bug

2000-03-30 Thread Herbert Xu
to the dependency on fuser, hmm, now what's that thing called netstat(1) which happens to be in your package and also happens to have a flag called -p? :) -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://go

Re: Two maintainer entrys in "bug reports by maintainer"

2000-03-17 Thread Herbert Xu
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Re: Two maintainer entrys in "bug reports by maintainer"

2000-03-16 Thread Herbert Xu
stem will fix itself. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Permission policy

2000-03-16 Thread Herbert Xu
w whenever he logs in from anywhere else in the world, he can request the privileges from that process. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 10, 2000

2000-03-12 Thread Herbert Xu
h Standard package nfs-server >> > Package: nfs-server (debian/main) >> > Maintainer: Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > 59642 nfs-server: conflicts with Standard package nfs-kernel-server >> Huh? Isn't this what it is expected to? > They can&#x

Re: weird NFS problem

2000-03-12 Thread Herbert Xu
. I have a fixed version here. Whether it will get into potato is up to the release manager. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: netstd split results in loss of functionality

2000-03-11 Thread Herbert Xu
ged > and the new package does not update the inetd entry. The reason is that the old netstd did not enable tftpd by default, while the new tftpd package always enables tftpd. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL P

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-06 Thread Herbert Xu
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 02, Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >The patent makes it non-free, so does the new license. > Really? In my country RSA is not patented, why should I care about what > happens in someone else country

Re: should installed daemons automatically restart upon upgrade?

1999-10-04 Thread Herbert Xu
rc.d -f gpm remove Try editing /etc/init.d/gpm instead. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: slink -> potato

1999-10-04 Thread Herbert Xu
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 09:36:36PM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > If anyone has seen an existing connection die, please report that as a bug. > > what against? "internet" ?? My message was about telnetd getting kill

Re: slink -> potato

1999-10-03 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 07:06:10PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:15:54AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > I think the worst case would be a telnetd linked with a broken > > shlib (or in the case of telnetd, perhaps a missing or broken > > /usr/lib/t

Re: slink -> potato

1999-10-03 Thread Herbert Xu
nd they should be upgraded (by whatever program that is in charge) one by one. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: slink -> potato

1999-10-02 Thread Herbert Xu
d solve the original problem > pretty well, it seems to me. Anyway, back to the original problem, the best solution IMHO is just to run telnet/ssh and screen so that none of this really affects you. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} &l

Re: slink -> potato

1999-10-02 Thread Herbert Xu
updates, though :) AFAIK ssh does exactly the same thing in its prerm. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-02 Thread Herbert Xu
Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:06 +1000 1999-10-02, Herbert Xu wrote: >>They use libssl, which begs the question why isn't libssl in non-US/non-free? > Uh, because it isn't non-free? Here's a quote from the policy: `Non-free' contains

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-02 Thread Herbert Xu
t; usefull as a security tool without a public key mechism, not to mention > that existin ssh clients would not be able to securely connect to obsd-ssh > servers :< They use libssl, which begs the question why isn't libssl in non-US/non-free? -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://ww

Re: slink -> potato

1999-10-01 Thread Herbert Xu
it does not kill any existing telnet connections. The same thing applies to other daemons being upgraded, including ssh. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread Herbert Xu
't live in the USA) have a look/go... The license issues seem to be sorted out for me. So I'll have a go at it. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: a question about BTS severities

1999-09-28 Thread Herbert Xu
IO, etc. Also, AFAIK, critical is listed above grave (and important and others) in all the relevant docos that I've seen. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: a question about BTS severities

1999-09-28 Thread Herbert Xu
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Herbert Xu wrote: >> >> I disagree. If a package causes a remote root exploit to be available, even >> if it's only in a very specific configuration, I would say that it is >> critical. > No, it's grave.

Re: [Q] Use gcc272 to compile package for potato?

1999-09-27 Thread Herbert Xu
es compiled with gcc272? IMHO you should try to find the reason for it if at all possible, and only consider gcc272 as a last resort. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbe

Re: a question about BTS severities

1999-09-27 Thread Herbert Xu
it. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-27 Thread Herbert Xu
d a check?). This is arguably a bug in dpkg since the upstream kernel actually sets CC to include certain options. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-25 Thread Herbert Xu
a patch... -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-25 Thread Herbert Xu
make: gcc: Command not found > make: *** [scripts/mkdep] Error 127 Yes it does, make bzImage HOSTCC=/usr/bin/egcs -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-25 Thread Herbert Xu
stuff like dependencies, you need to set HOSTCC. But for the problem at hand, which is compiling the actual kernel with gcc272, CC works just fine. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.or

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Herbert Xu
e there is no reason why we can't have multiple identd's installed, or multiple fignerd's, etc. as long as they don't overlap in their fs namespace. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for September 24, 1999

1999-09-24 Thread Herbert Xu
quite simpel acctually. > What identd's are there? > oidentd > pidentd > which else? Please don't do the conflict thing, get pidentd and see how it deals with it. Do the same in yours. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ )

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-24 Thread Herbert Xu
$(HPATH) > > This goes for other (debian|upstream) versions as well. You can easily override this on the command line or in the environment. > BTW, is any 2.0.38 package planned? Yes, but it is pretty low priority on my todo list. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debia

Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb

1999-09-23 Thread Herbert Xu
home-made apple pie", but nobody has packaged that (yet). Just make sure that when you do throw it out, you take the bible with it :) -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~her

Re: Bug#45307: [PROPOSAL] virtual package ident-server

1999-09-20 Thread Herbert Xu
t! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Too many kernels in unstable

1999-09-20 Thread Herbert Xu
e versions of 2.? kernels installed. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: A few changes

1999-09-19 Thread Herbert Xu
ges of a source package, perhaps under the source package's bug page. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

1999-09-18 Thread Herbert Xu
race on > > > >case "$x" in ( SystemV | posix | right ) > > ^ > >is causing this. > Thanks; I'll remove it. This is perfectly legal (although redundant). The slink ash was buggy but it's fixed potato. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 i

Re: Bug#45307: [PROPOSAL] virtual package ident-server

1999-09-18 Thread Herbert Xu
td.conf entry. This is easily managed with update-inetd, just like finger and others. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: fds_bits

1999-09-17 Thread Herbert Xu
references, but i think this is the key one) >> > >> > does anyone know what i'm supposed to do with this fds_bits thing? You're supposed to inspect these things with the FD_* macros, try man select -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert X

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread Herbert Xu
in.o > init/main.c herber>-- init/main.c:23: linux/head.h: No such file or > directoryherber>Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) In > file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:14,herber>Email: Herbert Xu > ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: libc6 is too large?

1999-09-16 Thread Herbert Xu
> small HDD, libraries without locale, timezone info, nss, etc.) It's because the maintainer decided to go against the policy and not strip the libraries. This has already been reported as a bug against libc6 (#40467). -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: H

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-16 Thread Herbert Xu
that you're not using gcc272. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: w only giving `-' as the FROM field

1999-09-16 Thread Herbert Xu
etd does not write the utmp/wtmp records, it gets login to do it as well as the authentication. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Upgrading to Debian 2.1

1998-10-07 Thread Herbert Xu
w.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Bug Terrorism

1998-06-17 Thread Herbert Xu
ail when they do stupid things like this. > > While the tone is a bit harsh, I agree with the idea. This is not worth > holding up the release of Hamm for. The simplicity of the fix is not > relevant. Fine. If that's you want, you've got it. -- Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 is

Re: Bug Terrorism

1998-06-17 Thread Herbert Xu
has a *bo* system where procmail is installed but not setuid and they uupgrade to the sendmail from hamm, hell will break loose. > Both the maintainer and I (as a concerned third party and maintainer of > deliver) don't think this is important enough to hold up hamm. But I do.

Re: RFC: packaging kernel modules

1998-06-12 Thread Herbert Xu
.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RFC: packaging kernel modules

1998-06-12 Thread Herbert Xu
brave is to remap those symbols in the .o file. -- Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: intent to take mawk and gawk

1998-05-04 Thread Herbert Xu
l my time. > FUD. > I created PGP keys three years ago because I needed to sign Debian uploads. But I don't think it was enforced until (relatively) recently. -- Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hom

Re: Why is dosemu in contrib?

1998-04-30 Thread Herbert Xu
Joey Hess wrote: > Herbert Xu wrote: > > Not my fault. I can't even find the word contrib in my debian/ directory. > > I'd assume it's a bad override file, then. Talk to Guy. FWIW, the Packages file and master contains the right info. So I suspect a bad mirror is

Re: Why is dosemu in contrib?

1998-04-30 Thread Herbert Xu
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > dpkg -s dosemu says: > Package: dosemu > Status: install ok installed > Priority: extra > Section: contrib > Installed-Size: 1799 > Maintainer: Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Version: 0.66.7-10 > Depends

Re: Possible DoS attack with new IPlogger release

1998-04-30 Thread Herbert Xu
ular the tcp wrapper does so too. -- Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

non-maintainer ssh package available

1998-04-28 Thread Herbert Xu
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Re: http://www.debian.org/security/

1998-04-26 Thread Herbert Xu
information for either overdrop or nestea - new bugs both afflicting linux. netsea has been fixed in 2.0.33-7. overdrop only fills up your syslog file which can be done anyway (say via ICMP redirects). -- Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~

Re: 21164 must be fixed before 2.0.34 comes out!

1998-04-25 Thread Herbert Xu
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > bug 21164 does not seem to be a bug in the libc. > it is instead a kernel bug. FWIW, I just tried it on my Debian 2.0 2.0.32 machine: $ ./yyys Killed -- Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV&

Re: Lists archives outside debian.org

1998-04-25 Thread Herbert Xu
an. You can't fight spam by hiding your email address. -- Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSU

Synchronised sonames (was: Gnome debs?)

1998-04-24 Thread Herbert Xu
; > For now, most of these issues can be resolved by using symlinks. But > sonames should be synchronized with Red Hat in the future. Indeed, perhaps this should be put into our policy? -- Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~}

Re: /bin/sh has no man page.

1998-04-23 Thread Herbert Xu
x 1.3 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Gnome debs?

1998-04-23 Thread Herbert Xu
.3 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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