Re: Move all to /usr

2011-10-11 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Marco d'Itri writes: > On Oct 11, Sven Joachim wrote: >> Rather complex, I'm afraid. Especially as not all architectures >> even support an initramfs, AFAIK. > I doubt this, since the initramfs can be embedded in the kernel image > itself (and indeed it always contains one, it ju

e2dis status update

2011-10-08 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Ivan Shmakov writes: […] > The news is that both the disassembly (e2dis) and reassembly (imrt) > tools are now working (but read below for a caution) and available > from their public Git repository [1] at Gitorious! > [1] https://gito

GnuPG users (or DD's) in Krasnoyarsk or Novosibirsk, Russia?

2011-09-26 Thread Ivan Shmakov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [Sorry for multi-posting.] I'm curious if there're any GnuPG users interested in public key data exchange in either Krasnoyarsk, Krasnoyarsk Krai, Russia, or Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk Oblast, Russia? I expect to

common CLI conventions?

2011-09-19 Thread Ivan Shmakov
I wonder, is there a kind of reference of the common command line interface conventions that the CLI's of the software included in Debian should adhere to? E. g., I see that tree (as of 1.5.3-1) doesn't support the -- POSIX options' terminator: $ tree -- .

Re: Depends: logrotate (forever and ever and ever)

2011-09-19 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Russ Allbery writes: >>>>> Ivan Shmakov writes: >> It's therefore my long-standing opinion that the dependency on >> logrotate should be downgraded to Recommends:, unless, of course, >> postinst or prerm do actually use anything pro

Depends: logrotate (forever and ever and ever)

2011-09-18 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Andrei Popescu writes: >>>>> On Vi, 16 sep 11, 00:48:25, Ivan Shmakov wrote: [Cc: debian-devel@, for this discussion fits there better.] >> I wonder if there should be a separate mailing list to Cc: such bug >> reports. (debian-depe

Re: Bug#641315: ITP: opendap -- Project for a Network Data Access Protocol

2011-09-12 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Already in Debian, as it seems. --cut: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libdap10 -- Open-source Project for a Network Data Access Protocol library OPeNDAP provides software that allows you to access data over the internet, from programs that weren't originally designed for that

Re: Dependencies of metapackages

2011-09-02 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Wolodja Wentland writes: > is there a specific reason why metapackages depend rather then > recommend packages they are meant to pull in? > The rationale behind this question is [0] that we see a plethora of > users in #debian who ask questions like: "Why did apt remove all my > syste

checking if .deb's match Packages

2011-09-02 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: […] > The Debian mirror in mirrors.kernel.org, on the other hand... While > the apt signature will protect users downloading packages through the > package manager, users that get binary packages directly are not > protected. FWIW, personal

e2dis status update

2011-09-02 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Steve McIntyre writes: >>>>> Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> It was my understanding that Jigdo's .template cannot associate one >> SHA-1 with such a non-contiguous chunk. > Correct. That could be added as a feature, maybe - we could add > e

Re: apt repository checker?

2011-08-21 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Paul Wise writes: > Within the context of the derivatives census I have been looking at > the apt repositories of our derivatives. I noted that some of them > are affected by #637563 due to directly importing Debian repository > data. I also found some repositories that are not GPG si

Re: e2dis: a Jigdo-like tool for Ext2+ FS images

2011-08-16 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Steve McIntyre writes: >>>>> Ivan Shmakov wrote: BTW, the primary Git repository for the project is now located at Gitorious: git://gitorious.org/e2dis/e2dis-devel.git http://gitorious.org/e2dis/e2dis-devel.git https://gitorious.org/e2dis

Re: mentors.debian.net runs the debexpo code now

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Arno Töll writes: >>>>> On 13.08.2011 17:36, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >>>> I wonder, is it possible to add a bit more magic to debexpo, so >>>> that the comments made via the Web interface would be forwarded to >>>> the list,

Re: e2dis: a Jigdo-like tool for Ext2+ FS images

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Adam Borowski writes: >>>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 03:07:24PM +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> BTW, I've just announced [1] the availability of the code which >> (given some attention and care) may be turned into a Jigdo-like >&

e2dis: a Jigdo-like tool for Ext2+ FS images

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Shmakov
BTW, I've just announced [1] the availability of the code which (given some attention and care) may be turned into a Jigdo-like suite for Ext2+ FS images. (The casuality of fragmentation on such filesystems greatly reduces the applicability of the FS-agnosti

Re: mentors.debian.net runs the debexpo code now

2011-08-13 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Paul Wise writes: >>>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> I wonder, is it possible to add a bit more magic to debexpo, so that >> the comments made via the Web interface would be forwarded to the >> list, and vice ve

Re: mentors.debian.net runs the debexpo code now

2011-08-12 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Paul Wise writes: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: […] > debexpo adds this to the above: > look for comments on the mentors.d.n website. > There never was any guarantee that subscribing to -mentors meant you > would know about other reviews. Indeed, it often

Re: Bug#637422: ITP: libaacs -- free-and-libre implementation of AACS

2011-08-12 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Alessio Treglia writes: […] > Features: > * Portability: Currently supported platforms are GNU/Linux, Windows, > MacOS X. The main dependency is libgcrypt for all cryptographic > functions. > * Freedom: libaacs is released under a Free Software license, > ensuring it will stay free

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-07-26 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Daniel Baumann writes: > On 07/26/2011 12:33 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> Well, isn't it simply about not configuring a few packages? > no; see openssh-server.postinst, in the discussed use-case you want > to run everything in there except the creation of the host keys. > the onl

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Moritz Mühlenhoff writes: > Hi, I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of > official virtualisation images. In contrast to the ISOs currently > provided it allows a quicker evaluation/testing of Debian (and can > also be very useful for testing (e. g. someone wro

Re: loosing dependencies: Depends: on logrotate

2008-01-23 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Exactly. If any of the old, rather inflexible syslog implementations >> depended on logrotate, I would say that would be perfectly fine. But >> for applications (even if they write their logs themselves like >> apache or samba usually do), I w

loosing dependencies: Depends: on logrotate

2008-01-19 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Since I've already started this thread, I'm going to ask for opinions on the one more issue with the current (Etch, at least) dependencies in Debian to bother me. Is `logrotate' really necessary for those 46 packages or so in Etch to include it in their `Dep

Re: loosing dependencies

2008-01-19 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Ralf Treinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Currently, the `fortunes' package depends on either `fortune-mod' or >> `fortune-min': [...] >> Does it make sense, provided that the fortune files may as well be >> read by M-x fortune in Emacs, or even by a plain `less'? > Probably not, i

Bug#461651: loosing dependencies

2008-01-19 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Package: fortunes Version: 1:1.99.1-3 Currently, the `fortunes' package depends on either `fortune-mod' or `fortune-min': $ apt-cache show fortunes Package: fortunes ... Source: fortune-mod Version: 1:1.99.1-3 Provides: fortune-cookie-db Depends: fortune-mod (>= 9708-12), fortunes

loosing dependencies

2008-01-19 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Currently, the `fortunes' package depends on either `fortune-mod' or `fortune-min': $ apt-cache show fortunes Package: fortunes ... Source: fortune-mod Version: 1:1.99.1-3 Provides: fortune-cookie-db Depends: fortune-mod (>= 9708-12), fortunes-min ... Does it make sense, p

Re: Is Davide Puricelli MIA?

2008-01-08 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Davide Puricelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Does someone know if Davide Puricelli (evo at debian.org) is MIA? >> Apparently, the last upload by him was on 2007-06-10 [1]. I've >> tried to communicate him last year, but didn't succeed. >> I've mostly interested in the `chicken' pac

Is Davide Puricelli MIA?

2008-01-08 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Does someone know if Davide Puricelli (evo at debian.org) is MIA? Apparently, the last upload by him was on 2007-06-10 [1]. I've tried to communicate him last year, but didn't succeed. I've mostly interested in the `chicken' package. The last vers

Re: Bug#377392: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-23 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Ivan Shmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>> David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> A helper script, `lintian-man', could be introduced to hide all the >>> hackery, and to provide a way for the developer t

Re: libFOO-BAR naming convention

2007-11-23 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages for a >> particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention in >> Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an arbitrary >> common suffix (thus, liberror-perl, or

libFOO-BAR naming convention

2007-11-23 Thread Ivan Shmakov
I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages for a particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention in Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an arbitrary common suffix (thus, liberror-perl, or libsqlite-ocaml.)

Re: Bug#377392: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-23 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> A helper script, `lintian-man', could be introduced to hide all >> the hackery, and to provide a way for the developer to reproduce >> the problem. Then, Tag: may be changed to, e. g., >> `manpage-has-messages-from-lintian-man'. (Or should

Re: Bug#377392: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-21 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> In a recent thread in debian-devel, it was suggested that lintian >> could call man(1) in such a way that the groff(1), called by `man', >> will emit warnings for every undefined macro, which is useful in >> catching the bugs like this: >> .B

Re: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-18 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> W: libdirectfb-dev: manpage-has-errors-from-man >> usr/share/man/man1/directfb-config.1.gz 24: warning: `l' not defined >> W: dvidvi: manpage-has-errors-from-man usr/share/man/man1/a5booklet.1.gz 9: >> warning: `IX' not defined >> Th

Re: Opinions sought: mlocate appropriate for Priority: standard?

2007-11-17 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> $ cat /usr/bin/update-locate.findutils > [...] >> $ cat /etc/cron.daily/update-locate >> #!/bin/sh >> if [ -x /usr/sbin/update-locate ]; then >>/usr/sbin/update-locate >> fi >> Or am I missing something? > The fact that people m

Re: Opinions sought: mlocate appropriate for Priority: standard?

2007-11-16 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> May I suggest a single `update-locate' script, with different >> implementations (`update-locate.findutils', etc.) belonging to the >> same alternatives group as `locate' and `updatedb'? This reduces >> the cron.daily script to a single lin

Re: Opinions sought: mlocate appropriate for Priority: standard?

2007-11-16 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Ivan Shmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>> Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>> Imho this problem is not one that needs to be solved, if multiple >>>>> locates are installed, multiple databases

Re: Opinions sought: mlocate appropriate for Priority: standard?

2007-11-16 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Imho this problem is not one that needs to be solved, if multiple locates are installed, multiple databases should be generated. >>> I think differently. Particularly given that findutil's locate can >>> be installed only as a depende

Bug#377392: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-15 Thread Ivan Shmakov
In a recent thread in debian-devel, it was suggested that lintian could call man(1) in such a way that the groff(1), called by `man', will emit warnings for every undefined macro, which is useful in catching the bugs like this: .B foo . Note: ... Below is

Re: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-15 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> "IS" == Ivan Shmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>> "CW" == Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> The -wmac option to groff will emit a warning for this mistake. [...] >> It's not espec

Re: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-14 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> "CW" == Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> What I'm expected to do, then? (With respect to Debian BTS.) I >> believe, start filing multiple bug reports would be a bad idea (for >> me now.) May I suggest an explicit warning to be generated by Groff >> on unknown ``command'', s

Re: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-13 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>> Ivan Shmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>> Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> or with the period escaped. >> ... And this is the thing I haven't

Re: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-12 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> "TV" == Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> $ bash check-man-periods.sh /usr/share/man/man1/*.gz > Debian has lintian and linda to check for machine-detectable errors > like this one. Maybe you could wirte the same test in perl/python and > submit it as a whishlist ite

Re: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-12 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> --cut-- >> .B ifconfig eth0:0 down >> . Note: for every scope (i.e. same net with address/netmask combination) all >> aliases are deleted, if you delete the first (primary). >> --cut-- [...] > Yeah, this is a common roff coding probl

Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-12 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Last week I've reported a bug in ifconfig(8) (as of net-tools 1.60-17.) The problem is in that the ifconfig.8 contains the following: --cut-- .B ifconfig eth0:0 down . Note: for every scope (i.e. same net with address/netmask combination) all aliases are deleted, if you de

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