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Chris writes:
$ ls /usr/bin/*openoffice*
/usr/bin/openoffice
What is dumb about that? The thread is about naming of files within
/usr/bin.
Since the package is named openoffice.org supposedly for trademark reasons
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for confusion.
Besides, if dumb names were a problem we'd do something about
openoffice.org.
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Tom writes:
I disagree. GUI apps in Linux are so wildly disparate that knowing the
basic architecture is pretty important for me to decide whether or not I
want it.
Only a small minority of users know what GTK+ means. Those that do also
know how to check the dependencies.
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Scott James Remnant wrote:
Some of us would like to see Perl taken out of base as well :)
Marc writes:
That would be an awfully nice thing to have.
But it would not be nice to not have the things that would leave with it.
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Colin Watson writes:
That would mean we'd have to add python to the base system.
I'd _really_ rather not see that. While I now use Python in preference to
Perl, I don't think its advantages justify bloating base. Perl's just
another procedural language.
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Lars Wirzenius writes:
I favor this approach over simple applications of violence, such as using
an axe on any computer infected by a virus.
Psychiatry just for sending viruses? I don't know. Seems pretty extreme
to me. Are you sure simple beatings would not suffice?
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Andi writes:
I hope that you're joking. (Well, I fear that you're not.)
It's not the American audience that has the limited vocabulary. It's the
American publisher.
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notices.
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Brian May writes:
You saying that any SMTP MTA that sends bounces to unauthenticated
E-Mail addresses is also broken?
Karsten M. Self writes:
At the very least, this is a small subset of the incoming mail.
This is about a quarter of my incoming mail.
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I wrote:
This is about a quarter of my incoming mail.
Karsten writes:
Which? Bounces to spoofed senders, or improperly addressed mail?
Bounces.
What prevents you from 550ing this at SMTP connect?
The absence of any such connections. I'm on a dialup.
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? If so
the answer should be obvious.
Hint: 99% of my spam is addressed to non-existent users.
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irrelevant, though, because people who have never used Windows or Mac
are getting scarce.
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Robert Lemmen writes:
any package that doesn't build on m68k or arm is broken and needs to be
fixed, even if it works on x86 by chance!
Even when it fails to build due to compiler errors or buggy libraries?
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Joey Hess writes:
So do we want there to be a MTA by default?
IMO yes.
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Mark Brown writes:
I've had this happen to me a few times in the past.
Same here (though not recently).
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descriptions. A one-of-a-kind special-purpose package is likely to
need a much longer description than yet another Web browser.
Why not go through your list, read all the descriptions that seem
suspiciously short, and file bugs if justified?
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Martin List-Petersen writes:
So anybody that has got a copy of the written offer can go to SCO and
require the Source, even if they didn't buy the Product.
However, if SCO fails to comply only the copyright owner can sue.
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C.2.3 debian/changelog
This file records the changes to the Debian-specific parts of the
package [72].
This would seem to preclude upstream bug-fixes.
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entries make them policy and write them up in debian-policy.
Anything less will just result in more pointless flamewars.
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Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Because in Debian there is a few people with high load in debian,
and many with less load. People with high load are more likely to
burn out and disappear.
Do you have statistics to support that statement?
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Steve Langasek writes:
I dunno, I've always found use of Outlook to be a fairly good predictor
of bug-reporting cluelessness (use of reportbug being another :).
What's your objection to reportbug?
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may not
be made available for download until it has been registered in some silly
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does not understand how
decentralized Debian is. There seems to be a widespread belief that
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Adrian writes:
Well, doesn't the GPL say something on it being illegal to impose
additional restrictions on distribution?
Original authors can add external restrictions, though the result is
generally incompatible with other GPL software.
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Debian of infringing his copyright. We
must resolve that or remove the package. I don't see how we can resolve it
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Craig writes:
I think the accusation of trolling holds up quite well.
It's still better to let the reader work it out for himself.
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Don Armstrong writes:
I (apparently incorrectly) presumed that debconf was also intended to
allow for the eventual automation of replicated Debian installations.
I distinctly remember reading exactly that.
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the copy of the file on my system (installed by perl-modules) lacks the
apparently required disclaimer.
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reason why it might
not be.
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such as elm, pine, mailx or Emacs (which has Rmail
and VM as mailreaders) installed. If you wish to send messages other
than just to other users of your system you must also have appropriate
networking support, in the form of IP or UUCP.
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unenforceable.
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-width typefaces is
an attempt to approximate that.
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Daniel Burrows writes:
On the other hand, a proper markup language would be nice.
I would be appalled were such a thing to be required.
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it is not
protected by copyright.
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-trivially?
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Paul Hampson writes:
Patents are civil actions, while copyright violation is criminal,...
In the US copyright infringement is usually (not always anymore, but still
usually) civil as well.
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arrangement you have with NSA. The copyright is irrelevant
to the patents. That is what I meant by 'orthogonal'.
IMHO until SCC actually initiates legal action their is no GPL violation.
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copyrights in the
jurisdictions of other governments.
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to distribute and use the patches now, but it
seems possible that SCC could start enforcing its patents at any time,
thereby stopping distribution.
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Russell Coker writes:
They don't apply to SE Linux either, the NSA says that SE Linux is
licensed under the GPL only. If anyone wants to dispute that then they
have to sue the NSA...
The licensing of the software is orthogonal to the licensing of the
patents.
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Martin Waitz writes:
i guess antigen didn't specify any @ in From:, and the other mta's filled
in their own name for some reason...
That's the default behavior of all MTA's I'm familiar with.
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Sorry! Maybe I did not give your patches enough credit.
The credit doesn't matter. It's just that the fact they weren't mentioned
in the changelog led me to believe that they had not been applied.
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will probably havt to do it ourselves.
Perhaps you should offer to take it over, or just fork it.
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sysadmin?
Is xdialog _fully_ dialog-compatible? I had pppconfig set up to use
gdialog when available for a while but I had to drop it because gdialog
kept breaking.
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I wrote:
I haven't looked at xdialog lately.
I just did. It almost works.
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'pppconfig --gdialog'.
There are no filed bugs on gnome-utils regarding missing functionality...
I'm pretty busy with real life right now, but feel free to run 'pppconfig
--gdialog', observe the results, and file bugs with patches.
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Evolution added an X-Evolution header to each message for status
purposes.
Merely _looking_ at a message with Evolution alters it? That is _truly_
evil.
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mailagent.
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I wrote:
Surely there are locales for welsh and Scottish gaelic?
Keith G. Murphy writes:
I should think not. Those are two *very* different Celtic languages.
Nor did I say otherwise. Read my sentence as Surely there is a locale for
welsh and also a locale for Scottish gaelic.
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Nick writes:
So using GB as a country code is incorrect, as Great Britain is *NOT* a
country, really.
You better have a talk with the ISO about that.
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to use GB? BTW, there
appears to be no Welsh locale.
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a) english
b) spanish
and a) would map to en_US and b) to es_US.
I believe that en_UK would be for Ukrainian english. The mind boggles.
Well, kdelibs2g installed /usr/share/locale/en_UK/LC_MESSAGES/kde.mo here.
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Steve Langasek writes:
en_UK is English as spoken in the United Kingdom.
While en_GB is english as spoken in Great Britain. Perhpas one of the
residents thereof can explain the difference.
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in the difference between the two dialects of
english :)
However, it appears to be that Great Britain comprises England,
Scotland and Wales, whereas United Kindom adds Northern Ireland to
that.
Surely there are locales for welsh and Scottish gaelic?
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to one relationship between languages and nations, or even
a one to many relationship. Are US spanish speakers to be told that
they must live in Spain just because they asserted that their preferred
language was spanish?
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The chrony mailing list is a Yahoo Group at the moment. This less than
optimal. Does anyone have any suggestions as to where to look for a (free)
home?
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Joey Hess writes:
Well I guess you could use sourceforge.
I assume that the author has his reasons for not wanting to use
Sourceforge.
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Carlos Laviola writes:
Register your project...
Not my project. I'm just the Debian maintainer. I was just trying to do
the upstream author a favor.
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Matt Zimmerman wrote:
Perhaps it would be useful to create a new archive section for Debian-specific
tools.
Christian Hammers writes:
I like this idea. Do others have other opinions about this?
I like it also.
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with
maintainers of packages that receive large numbers of spurious or duplicate
bug reports.
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Anthony Towns writes:
...what would people think of making a task-emacs and moving both tetex
and emacs out from standard?
As an emacs user I think this is an excellent idea, but I worry that
such stretching of the definition of task may confuse users.
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Matt Zimmerman writes:
I think Emacs as a task makes good sense.
I think getting it out of standard makes good sense, but I'm not convinced
that it makes sense as a task.
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Web page install task-devel-emacs? That's obviously
for people who want to hack on emacs.
How about an ordinary meta-package named emacs?
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Dwayne C. Litzenberger writes:
So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager?
Undo.
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Federico Di Gregorio writes:
or am i missing something?
In addition to the things Ben mentioned, dependencies and broken
installs.
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console to fix it.
b) Your monitor blew up. You've got a replacement on hand, but it won't
work (and may even be damaged) with the current X settings.
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appears that I never fully implemented the feature.
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or start up chronyd without permission? Right now policy
seems to me to strongly oppose questions but say nothing about starting
daemons.
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Dale Scheetz writes:
The only thing that looks strange here is the Bcast: and Mask:, but I
didn't set them. It isn't clear that this is the failure either.
The ifconfig output looks fine. What does 'route -n' say?
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I wrote:
Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse.
Joseph Carter writes:
That's been taken...
Has been taken by... ?
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I wrote:
Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse.
Erick Kinnee writes:
Stampede Linux
Stampede? I would have expected something to do with cattle.
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and the United States
government.
- hawks
Eaters of mice and baby rabbits (the red-tails around here, anyway).
Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse.
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packages may be of interest ...
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Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements
this? This can be read as You are
forbidden to charge a fee for copies or as I do not require that you pay
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Ben Pfaff writes:
That doesn't make it non-free. It's in the standard BSD license.
The word 'fee' does not occur in the standard BSD license. It does not
mention money at all.
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Branden Robinson writes:
John Hasler might like it but there are about 400 other people to ask.
I look forward to hearing from them. I just want to see the damn thing
fixed. Santiago has proposed a workable solution and offered to implement
it.
Barring a better solution, I will be the one
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