On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 09:39:46AM +0100, Thomas Koch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> some time ago I started to collect hints for upstream developers on a wiki
> page:
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/Java/UpstreamHints
I am Lars Wirzenius and I approve of this page.
However, http://wiki.debian
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 09:58:11AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> judging by the current status list DEPs, the problem is more stalling than
> accepting them too early. I admit that as DEP admins, we have not done a good
> job at pinging DEP drivers. Because of the current confusion of roles on D
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 09:38:29AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius writes:
> > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 05:36:00PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>
> >> “Dictator” is probably a bad term. See this as a chairman. Someone who
> >> can judge when consensu
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 05:36:00PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> “Dictator” is probably a bad term. See this as a chairman. Someone who
> can judge when consensus has been reached, and mark a DEP as accepted.
> This would avoid the countless and boring nitpicks by people who still
> want to disc
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 02:05:10PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Roland Mas, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 13:41:23 +0100, a écrit :
> > Samuel Thibault, 2012-01-17 12:03:41 +0100 :
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > I'm not sure to understand what you mean exactly. If you have even
> > > just a hundred files of the
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:30:20AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 09:12:58 +, a écrit :
> > real user system max RSS elapsed cmd
> > (s) (s) (s)(KiB) (s)
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:58:13PM -0800, Kamal Mostafa wrote:
> * Package name: duff
> * URL : http://duff.sourceforge.net/
A quick speed comparison:
real user system max RSS elapsed cmd
(s) (s) (s)(KiB) (s)
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 07:43:27PM -0500, Al wrote:
> This might seem trivial but it helped enough people I work with that I thought
> I should contribute the code. Instead of running "ssh-copy-id -i identityName
> IPADDR" , all you had to do was "pushkey IPADDR". The difference between my
> packag
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 05:49:12PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> It also either (a) prevents upstream from ever changing that default or
> (b) silently breaks packages for the user. If option foo is set to bar
> in the upstream configuration and then upstream changes it to baz, the
> package br
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:41:07AM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> The suggestion that "git clean" be a solution appears to have caused
> some level of outrage. However, at least for '3.0 (git)', all the
> sources are known to git, and 'git clean' is a reliable and simple
> solution to the problem. T
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Version : 0.0
Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius
* URL : http://liw.fi/cmdtest/
* License : GPL3+
Programming Lang: Python
Description : blackbox testing of Unix command line
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 02:13:29PM +0100, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
> Simon McVittie writes:
>
> > life's too short to spend time booting in single-user mode and
> > resizing LVs.
>
> That's probably why we now have online resizing of LVs and filesystems
resize2fs, at least, only supports o
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 08:30:22PM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
> But then I don't see how you could avoid circular build-dependencies
> with compilers written in their own language. fpc/fp-compiler does the
> same.
You can avoid it by having a bootstrap compiler written in another
suitable languag
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 08:15:42PM +0800, Daniel Hartwig wrote:
> Would like to know the locked status before trying su so that the
> program can either fall back to sudo or give an error message more
> informative than just "incorrect password".
What is the security implication of letting anyone
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 06:30:27PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Agreed. Anyway, I'd be happy to have, by policy, some hard limits
> We can discuss of a tolerable size, like 100M? Anyway, anything
> bigger than 512 MB is obviously abusing /tmp, IMHO. But if we're
> to have /tmp using tmpfs by defa
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 09:44:15AM +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> Yes I agree. But wich $TMPDIR should we use ? /var/tmp does not fit
> because it is not cleaned at boot. And the problem is the default have
> changed. I do not excuse sloppy programmer. but we need something like
> a standard tmp
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:44:25PM +0200, Ludovic Seegmuller wrote:
> Description : dupmerge2 finds and hardlinks identical files
We've got a bunch of such tools in Debian already, and ITPs for more.
How does this one compare to, say, pmatch, hardlink, or fdupes?
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On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:57:54PM +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
> I wonder, is there a kind of reference of the common command
> line interface conventions that the CLI's of the software
> included in Debian should adhere to?
We already have every popular style of command line inte
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 06:47:52PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> I am looking for a set of perl modules which can handle being fed mail
> and managing a subscription list in response to that mail while also
> allowing for subscriptions/unsubscriptions from an external interface.
> Such a thing may
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 11:57:39AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Sep 2011, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
> > > The problem is that perl and perl-modules really are one package that was
> > > split apart solely to get the (large) architecture-independent parts into
> > > an arch: all packag
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 12:55:26PM +0300, Andrew O. Shadura wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 15:46:50 +0600
> Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>
> > > Until that happens, please use whatever URL you like. I use
> > > http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ myself.
>
> > Note that some people think that
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 03:34:22PM +0200, Cédric Boutillier wrote:
> This is a minor issue,but I would propose to change it to
> http://svn.debian.org/viewvc/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?revision=REVISION
> if the Format field should point to a specific svn version of the
> document. However, as far as
In the blue corner, we have The Maintainer, who says: "I have a problem
with one architecture, and my package does not work there. It's The
Porter's job to debug and fix that. They know what's usually broken
on their architecture, so it's easier for them."
In the green corner, we have The Porter,
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 01:31:11PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> The semantics are pretty obvious to me, it's the number of corner cases and
> complexity that this brings what stops dpkg/apt/aptitude/100-other-tools
> maintainers from implementing that.
What is the use case for this?
(If I missed
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:04:51PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote:
> * Lars Wirzenius [2011-08-15 18:33 +0100]:
> > raw gz xz
> > 584163 134 file sizes (MiB)
> >0421 450 savings compared to raw (MiB)
> > -421 0
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 05:16:55PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 01:48:50AM +0200, Adam Borowski a écrit :
> >
> > * A year ago, I repacked CD1, .xz took 66% space needed by .gz. This time,
> > on the whole archive, gains are somewhat smaller: 72%. I guess that CD1
> >
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 09:19:02PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Of course, it might require finding more buildd maintainers. But I must
> admit that I have no idea what buildd admins spend time on, and how it's
> possible to help them.
"A life in the day of a buildd maintainer" would not be a ba
On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 12:27:43AM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 07:12:58PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > > > If you do want it started, that means you need to install it first. Then
> > > > it makes very much sense it is started automatic
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 11:52:22PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 07:35:49PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > If you do want it started, that means you need to install it first. Then
> > it makes very much sense it is started automatically.
> Logical fallacy: "run" impl
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: genbackupdata
Version : 1.5
Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius
* URL : http://braawi.org/genbackupdata/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Python
Description : generate test data sets
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Lars Wirzenius
* Package name: obnam
Version : 0.18
Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius
* URL : http://braawi.org/obnam/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C, Python
Description : online and disk-based backup
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Owner: Lars Wirzenius
* Package name: python-ttystatus
Version : 0.12
Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius
* URL : http://liw.fi/ttystatus/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Python
Description : terminal progress bar and
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 04:33:33PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> anyhow.. i'll get back to you about that later.
Actually, no point in asking me about it: now, months later, I have
no idea anymore what I did, except trying the obvious things based on
trying to decipher the manual pages. Sorry I'm
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:28:30PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> exactly. i told you this when you asked about it when you were looking
> into it, and also after you've come up with vmdebootstrap.
Sorry, if you did, I must not have understood what you said. That seems
to be a continuing trend bet
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:45:30AM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> On 07/28/2011 10:34 AM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > Where is that documented?
>
> man lb_config and look for -b virtual-hdd in connection with
> --virtual-*. if you build with --initramfs none, you'll get a n
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:28:04AM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> On 07/28/2011 10:21 AM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > Last I looked, live-build built read-only images,
>
> that's not true, the fs images (!= iso, != usb-hdd) are always RW[0].
> linaro used that functionali
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:13:07AM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> On 07/26/2011 09:18 PM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> > I've never used Debian Live. Would a Vbox of Debian Live in installed
> > mode be any different to an installed standard Debian?
>
> like i said, live-build can build images that
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> What virtualisation solutions should be supported?
> - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidate since it's free and
> included since Squeeze.
> - Vmware has a significant installed base and is relevant, although
> proprietar
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 08:19:46PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> So what to put in the Copyright field? It's a required one.
I'd do something like this:
Copyright: not applicable
License: public-domain
This work was created by the government of the United States of
America without
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 11:50:58AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> I would like to install a private package diverting
> /etc/profile (to support /etc/profile.d). Problem:
> There is no owner for this file.
Stock Debian already supports /etc/profile.d.
if [ -d /etc/profile.d ]; then
for i
Package: wnpp
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Owner: Lars Wirzenius
* Package name: python-larch
Version : 0.19
Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius
* URL : http://liw.fi/larch/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Python
Description : B-tree library for Python
An
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Lars Wirzenius
* Package name: seivot
Version : 1.9
Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius
* URL : http://liw.fi/seivot/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Python
Description : benchmark program for backup software
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Lars Wirzenius
* Package name: summain
Version : 0.8
Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius
* URL : http://liw.fi/summain/
http://liw.fi/summain/README/
http://liw.fi/summain/NEWS
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 04:00:15PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
> On 7 June 2011 15:56, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > I would recommend asking the stable release manager. He might say yes.
>
> What email address do I use?
>
> (I always have problems finding the email addresses of the release
> managers
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 01:57:29PM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote:
> I currently see a wild mix of different format definitions used by people
> hitting debian-mentors. While I personally don't care as long as
> the copyright file is complete I don't think this fulfills the goal of
> this DEP.
This is
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* Package name: python-cliapp
Version : 0.11
Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius
* URL : http://liw.fi/cliapp/
* License : GPL3+
Programming Lang: Python
Description : Python framework for Unix
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Lars Wirzenius
This package is in oldstable, but not in squeeze and later. It was
removed on my request because nothing in Debian required it, and I
wanted to retire. I am now preparing to upload some software that
uses this to run unit tests at build time
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Lars Wirzenius
* Package name: python-tracing
Version : 0.3
Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius
* URL : http://liw.fi/tracing/
* License : GPL3+
Programming Lang: Python
Description : Python debug tracing helper
On to, 2011-04-21 at 16:20 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Josselin Mouette writes:
> > For example, Thunar works perfectly fine outside Xfce, but you don’t
> > want to show it in KDE or GNOME.
>
> Why not?
>
> Some users may prefer it to the "standard" app for the desktop
> environment they're usin
On pe, 2011-04-15 at 21:58 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> Symlinks in system path components REALLY are best avoided.
Out of curiosity: why?
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On pe, 2011-04-15 at 08:27 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mercredi 13 avril 2011 à 11:39 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit :
> > My first (and last) contact with NM was not a good one.
>
> This is another misconception about Network-Manager: since version 0.6
> (the first one with which people ha
On to, 2011-04-14 at 10:44 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> And moreover for scientific computation /tmp need to be on an
> harddisk. I do not want my 16GiB matric to go to memory when I have
> only 8GiB of RAM
That sounds like you'd be better off using /var/tmp instead, actually.
> Please d
On ti, 2011-04-12 at 21:31 +0200, sean finney wrote:
> Hi Lars,
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 06:41:10PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > > But shouldn't we say they _must_ lock package-specific system users
> > > and groups when the package is removed ?
> >
(Cc to the relevant bug added.)
On ma, 2011-04-11 at 14:05 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: System users: removing them"):
> > Thus, I propose to change 9.2.2 "UID and GID classes", the paragraph on
> > uids in the range 100-999, to add t
On su, 2011-04-10 at 20:06 +0200, Witold Baryluk wrote:
> I today say that alpha disappered from unstable buildd.
I am a mostly dis-interested outsider for both the alpha and hppa
architectures. I write this to be supportive of the ftpmasters.
It seems to me that the alpha porters have had quite
ite them in the real world). Sorry.
On su, 2011-04-10 at 16:20 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> Jari,
>
> thanks for your patch. I am sorry to say I am going to reject it.
>
> As of about two days ago, DEP5 is now included in the debian-policy
> package. There's a couple
Jari,
thanks for your patch. I am sorry to say I am going to reject it.
As of about two days ago, DEP5 is now included in the debian-policy
package. There's a couple of details to fix, still (see #609160), but
other than that, I consider the spec to be frozen. Unless there are
serious bugs in it,
Adding a copy to the bug report.
Everyone please Cc 621...@bugs.debian.org if replying to this subhtread.
Thanks.
On la, 2011-04-09 at 10:14 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 09:44:28AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > Package: debian-policy
> > Version: 3.9.2.0
Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.9.2.0
thanks
Background for the policy list: see thread starting at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/03/msg01174.html
and continuing in April at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/04/msg00210.html
On ma, 2011-04-04 at 21:09 +0100, Lars Wirzenius
On ke, 2011-04-06 at 16:37 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> Obviously, doing these changes earlier rather than later in the release
> cycle would be good, if they are to be done at all.
OK, so assuming anything is to be done about this at all, here's what I
suggest:
* add a lintia
On ti, 2011-04-05 at 08:52 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I'm re-running the scripts, which will probably take a few hours, and
> will report results when they're done. If you notice any problems with
> the scripts, please tell me ASAP.
The new scripts look also in maint
On ma, 2011-04-04 at 20:32 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I happened to have access to a idle-ish fastish machine with a fresh-ish
> Debian mirror, so I wrote a script to unpack all binaries (for sid/main
> amd64), and then another script to grep for bash scripts (actually a
> pai
On to, 2011-03-31 at 14:18 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius writes ("System users: removing them"):
> > The easy solution for this would be to never remove the user, but that's
> > also not so clear.
>
> To remove a user and reclaim the uid is a diff
On ma, 2011-04-04 at 19:43 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Regarding the root shell issue, I wouldn't have an issue with it
> being /bin/sh. The admin is always free to chsh it to the shell
> of their choice.
We could even have d-i set the root shell to bash if it installs bash.
Or have bash do it al
On ma, 2011-04-04 at 16:19 +0400, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote:
> User MUST study each OS he uses. If he doesn't want he will be
> forced to pay the other people who will tune his (user's) system.
I dispute your assertion that our users must study the operating system
we build for them.
I not only di
On ma, 2011-04-04 at 00:18 +0400, Stanislav Maslovski wrote:
> If you read my mails without a prejudice you will notice it.
I have read all e-mails in this thread, and what constructive criticism
you may have given is buried under uncompromising prejudice. For
example:
> If you mean the ifupdown-
We have some packages that require a dedicated user to be created, and
calling "adduser --system" in postinst does that. However, it is not
always clear whether such users should be removed when the package is
removed.
* The user might be administered centrally, via LDAP. (So postinst
On ke, 2011-03-30 at 17:33 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> Someone (I forget who) previously suggested that a source-only changes
> file should have to be accompanied by a build log. This would need a
> bit of infrastructure to file the build log away.
Most uploads are done using dput or dupload. W
On ti, 2011-03-29 at 09:52 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> And as you have to test-build your packages anyway the only reason I see
> why you wouldn't be able to upload them is a very slow connection to the
> rest of the world.
Bandwidth quotas would be another reason. (I have no opinion on whether
On su, 2011-03-20 at 01:35 -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> Compared to a DNS-based mirror chooser, one based on HTTP provides the
> following advantages:
It does sound like your solution is better in many ways than the
cdn.debian.net approach.
There's one thing that worries me, though: it requi
On to, 2011-03-17 at 10:12 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 04:40:29PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> > My rule is: when there is something non-free or when the amount of
> > useless stuff is huge. For example I would repack a tarball with a
> > small program and 20Mb of embedded co
On to, 2011-03-17 at 08:32 +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> You can get the same effect with "file" chroots (tarball unpack). It's
> not that slow providing your tarball is really minimal, and it works
> on all architectures. I used this for the whole archive rebuild after
> LVM snapshots oopsed and t
ote:
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 01:06:03PM +0000, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> >> If one has or downloads a list of mirrors, what's a good way to
> >> choose the best one? Ping time?
> >
> > Package: netselect-apt
> > Description: speed tester for choosin
On to, 2011-03-10 at 11:28 -0500, James Vega wrote:
> I also think that going off and writing scripts in Python when one knows
> that devscripts is a Perl and shell project is the wrong way to try to
> contribute. One generally tries to work with a project, not write a lot
> of code in a language
On to, 2011-03-10 at 10:22 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> I'd really like to see support for sane mirror selection in apt itself,
> possibly with archive support (i.e. list of mirrors somewhere on
> ftp.d.o). That would allow apt to for instance retry on a different
> server if the first one it t
On to, 2011-03-10 at 10:42 +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> What is the status of dep5(*) copyright file in debian ? I am using
> dh_make for preparing packages, and I had report that the default
> generated copyright template should be replaced by a dep5 one.
> Should I fill a bug report ?
E
What would it take to get cdn.debian.net become a service provided by
the project? In other words, cdn.debian.org, instead of cdn.debian.net.
If we had cdn.debian.org, we could make it into a default mirror (which
could potentially skip one question in the installer), debmirror,
pbuilder, piuparts
On ti, 2011-03-08 at 09:39 +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> I fixed the bug title.
>
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 09:57:40AM +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> > Description: xfstests is a torture test suite for filesystem bugs. It is
> > useful in order to debug problem on linux filesystem. It
>
On to, 2011-03-03 at 12:47 +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> some package announce their existance to the world without any admin decision!
> It is not a fud and a security hole!
That's a vague generality... which packages? You mentioned phpmyadmin.
What are the actual problems that results from
On to, 2011-03-03 at 11:54 +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Am Do den 3. Mär 2011 um 11:25 schrieb Tollef Fog Heen:
> > Then just don't use it? Nobody is forcing you to.
> [...]
> > | And even if you not care about, then that functionality should be
> > | explicit configured and not per default.
> >
On su, 2011-02-27 at 15:49 +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> Aren't there any checks in place to prevent a package from becoming
> uninstallable?
> E.g., bug #615530, #615528.
We don't care if something is temporarily uninstallable in unstable. The
only way to prevent that from happening would
On pe, 2011-02-18 at 18:30 +0100, Thomas Krennwallner wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Thomas Krennwallner
>
>
> * Package name: run
> Version : 1.4
> Upstream Author : Armin Biere and Toni Jussila
> * URL : http://fmv.jku.at/run/
> * License
On to, 2011-02-17 at 15:24 +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> I would argue that a change that /would/ make a real difference, would
> be to have (as an example) emblems in Nautilus that flag files and
> folders depending on if other people have read or write access. That
> would visually show what is (a
On ma, 2011-02-14 at 14:37 +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> lets start a python rant. I love to hate this language. :-)
Let's not.
Let's not rant about any languages, or tools, or desktop environments.
Let's be constructive on Debian mailing lists, shall we?
We have plenty of side-channels for rants
On su, 2011-02-13 at 19:13 +0100, Luk Claes wrote:
> On 02/13/2011 07:00 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > On su, 2011-02-13 at 18:49 +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> >> I don;t think that is a good idea, there are way too many people not
> >> building
> >> and tes
On su, 2011-02-13 at 18:49 +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> I don;t think that is a good idea, there are way too many people not building
> and testing their packages properly already, we don't want to give that work
> to
> the buildd-admins...
That's something I don't understand. If I upload a brok
On su, 2011-02-13 at 08:41 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 12/02/11 at 15:29 -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> > Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > >
> > > If we wanted to be serious about this, it would be nice for someone to
> > > set up a maximal build chroot: somet
On la, 2011-02-12 at 20:22 +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> If the packages used are only ever built in unnatural virgin
> environments, there is basically no testing if building them on
> a real user machine works. And things not tested usually just stop
> working after some time...
Right now, su
On pe, 2011-02-11 at 13:20 +0100, Torsten Werner wrote:
> grep, sed, awk, bash, ...
grep, sed, and awk, at least, seem to work acceptably for me with UTF-8.
The support can be improved, I'm sure.
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On pe, 2011-02-11 at 10:05 +0100, Vincent Fourmond wrote:
> On 11/02/11 09:52, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le vendredi 11 février 2011 à 09:47 +0100, Adam Borowski a écrit :
> >> I'd say there should be no place in Debian in 2011 for software that can't
> >> do UTF-8, especially if near-identical
On ke, 2011-02-02 at 17:13 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> This is easily done with autopkgtest; the only difference from your
> proposal is that the source package needs to be downloaded. Doing so
> is not difficult or troublesome, and can be done automatically.
I concur.
However, looking things fr
On la, 2011-01-15 at 23:38 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I still don't get how the versioned Format URL will look like once DEP5
> will be shipped by debian-policy though. Would it use the Vcs-Browser of
> the debian-policy package or ...? Just curious.
>From http://lists.debian.org/debian-pr
On la, 2011-01-15 at 10:10 +, Chris Carr wrote:
> Is there some forum in which the choice of a default for a package or
> service gets made? I subscribe to debian-devel and debian-policy, but
> neither seems to contain discussions about the risks of replacing
> perfectly good defaults with sign
On ma, 2011-01-10 at 10:56 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> So, the only timeframe during which the problem can be experienced is
> from now to the solution of #609160. I wonder if it is really worth to
> address this issue properly---by changing either the intended usage of
> Format: or by addin
On su, 2011-01-09 at 15:36 +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> The Files field contains a space separated files list. What to do if the
> file name contains a space? How should this space escaped?
Preferably by glaring at whoever created a source file with spaces in
the name until they fix it. Meanwhil
On su, 2011-01-09 at 15:33 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> Well, the point of the revision dependent url was to avoid the url
> stopping to refer to the actual format used in the file. If you make
> that a stable url that may change content, the Format: field becomes
> pretty much useless.
See http://
On su, 2011-01-09 at 14:27 +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> But I guess I could change the rev=135 url to rev=153 for now, to avoid
> confusion.
Hasty brain make mistake. I changed it to
http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ instead, since the r153 URL has the
wrong examples.
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On su, 2011-01-09 at 15:18 +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Lars Wirzenius , 2011-01-09, 14:00:
> > [3] http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?rev=153&sc=0
> >
> >If you are interested, please give the spec a quick read. If you find
> >any real problems, it is
On la, 2010-12-11 at 17:04 +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> I agree it's not optimal, hence my push for auto linking.
Can you provide a link to a page giving a description of this
auto-linking stuff?
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On su, 2010-11-21 at 17:44 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:20:39AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > What happens is that in lenny, the postinst script doesn't honor
> > policy-rc.d, so dictd is started, but never stopped.
>
> So do you want to say that the dictd package is
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