* John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [2013-05-22 20:57]:
> On 05/22/2013 07:50 PM, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> >Actually it sounds like you propose to stop developing and take
> >everything from Redhat, Lennart, Gnome because it's there and they say
> >so.
>
> And another o
* Josselin Mouette [2013-05-22 15:03]:
> Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 08:16 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
> > - there are 300+ upstart job files ready to be imported from Ubuntu
>
> When you compare the time it takes to write an upstart job file or a
> systemd unit file, to the time it takes to
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> Aslo, we have sso.debian.org, whose use we should expand.
DACS (http://dacs.dss.ca) the software behind sso.debian.org also
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> Aptitude installs all recommended packages by default which was rather
> annoying until I found that in the options menu as I ran out of space a
> couple of times.
as does apt-get.
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> is as a result misleading, we should find a better name for this.
>
> How about dak-svidanya?
More to the point, this far into freeze such packages should only ever
be uploaded to the existential repository.
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> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:56:52 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
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> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 11:21:29 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:02:1
220 with squeeze
and wheezy regularily. Most of the times it was hald that needed to be
restarted which is now done regularily upon wakeup on my notebooks.
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On Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 11:21:29 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:02:11 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> > Putting debian-devel@l.d.o on CC for this bug report, as this change
> > might have larger impact on installations, so discussing this first
bug report, as this change
might have larger impact on installations, so discussing this first
might be a good idea.
Cheers,
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On 2013-03-20 19:17, Bart Martens wrote:
> Since you ask, I suggest to disable it now and enable it later only
> after opt-in.
Maybe the do not track header could be honored.
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> Hi. I've just bought a new notebook. It has an external graphic card: AMD
> Radeon HD 7670M 2GB. I installed Ubuntu 12.10. I've been trying to
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> the driver for more than 2 hours. However, I couldn't do it yet. When
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> to install the drivers that Ubuntu indicates, I reboot my PC,
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On Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 19:40:37 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> Before we start losing data (we already lost one disk), DSA is moving
> master's services to a new machine. The new machine is already setup,
> but not all the data has been moved. DSA will do a final copy
* Shawn [2013-02-05 18:43]:
> socket-activation in systemd _helps_ security in that you can give an
> unprivlidged process a listening port under 1024. (using a privileged
> configuration file)
Privileged vs. unprivileged port is not really a secuitry improvement.
Yours Martin
, never
> > change a winning team…
> the feature was introduced 08/2006 [1], which means is as old as
> backports without the flag.
NotAutomatic was, but I was talking about ButAutomaticUpdates, which
was introduced more than four years later.
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your message pretty much sums up the reasons.
I'll rest my case and will work a solution into my configuration
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this is requiring an
additional step to get the behaviour that was default for years, and
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l that more software goes through the backports archive because
of new features and updates that wouldn't pass our stable release
policy, than security fixes to previously backported software.
And yet, setting "ButAutomaticUpdates: yes" pretends that it's the
other way arou
or changes.
Ping me when the security team has 30 active members working 5 days
a week on Debian and I'll look into writing the dak patches. ;)
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> On 2013-01-15 10:29, Julien Cristau wrote:
>> There's no requirement for md5sums files in the first place AFAIK. How
>> are incomplete md5sums worse than no md5sums? If anything this stuff
>> should be minor IMO.
>
> If a package is shipping no .md5sum at all, it wi
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> Hope this helps!
http://m.mediapost.com/publications/13/No-Cookies-A22.jpg
(this is one of the most obvious cases of "please show the code" I
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Nice page, will study it in more detail in due time. I did not see my
proposal there, is it possible to add new information to that page?
It's a wiki. Just create an account an log in.
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> I don't think it's a good idea.
Out of curiosity: why do you think this is a bad idea?
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>
> I totally agree! Anyone who uses debian source or binary packages
> should automatically phone to SPI.
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> Trying with "ip monitor addr", it seems that the netlink notification is
> sent once the tentative flags has been removed.
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6 2001:db8::deb1:46/64 scope global tentative
Once DAD completes, the "tentative" goes away.
Programatically, I think that's checking the return of
getifaddrs(3), ifa_flags, for IFA_F_TENTATIVE.
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You are right. ntpd does this nicely, but then again it's gonna take
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> would actually affect both v4 and v6.)
Generally, one should not be able to bind() non-local sockets, don't
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> Are the hooks in /etc/network/if-{down,post-down,up,pre-up} only
> for ipv4?
They run after bringing IPv6 interfaces up but most of the time
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> ifupdown wait until DAD is finished?
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I can now disable DAD, or insert "sleep 10" at the top of
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IPv6 has been a release goal for years and we are about to release
another Debian version that does not properly cater for IPv6.
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security standards to do anything about it, AFAICT.
>
> your point being?
That our users don't seem to care, and that probably is why we
haven't done anything about it.
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On 2012-10-11 19:38, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 11:35 -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote:
>> > What makes sense is to use a hash that has the properties that are
>> > needed for a particular application.
> Well... I think that's only really required if performance is very
> c
placing some file in /usr/include/libfm is pretty ugly,
> but I would still certainly not expect that upgrading the libfm
> package would remove it.
Do not mess with /usr, that is exclusively the domain of dpkg. Any
file you place there may well be overridden. Use dpkg-divert if you
sysadmins who could
host their own LUG list would be interested in helping the
listmasters. And should the hardware not be enough, then we can
probably find ways to upgrade it.
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 09:53:37AM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
> On 2012-09-18 09:30, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
> > Just to give a short impression what we can find here:
>
> and some more
>
> bts, that's output from debsums -a -c, so the files listed have
> a md5sum mismatch (or are missing if
also sprach Philipp Kern [2012.09.10.2109 +0200]:
> > openstreetmap-client?
>
> Aren't you poaching in "openstreetmap"'s namespace now? :)
x-openstreetmap-client? Or x-x-openstreetmap-client? ;)
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> Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'.
except the 'm' on "osm" is already a "map", so maybe osm-client.
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I said fglrx — because its binary-only version caused regular
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the statement might sound
a little too much in favour of AMD. Nothing we can do about it now.
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; Please show some real world examples of such a configuration.
So far I haven't seen any convincing real world examples and I spent
some time looking. I'm curious as well if there are any corner cases
that would require adding hints to the release notes.
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> Hello!
>
> Ansgar Burchardt has written on Sunday, 2 September, at 22:04:
>> "Andrej N. Gritsenko" writes:
>>> Tell me, please, how I can achieve the inclusion of stable
>>> version of libfm/pcmanf
ite it…
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* Martin Wuertele [2012-08-13 15:42]:
> * Jens Link [2012-08-13 15:24]:
>
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Owner: Jens Link
> >
> > * Package name: check_v46
> > Version :
> > Upstream Author : Ville Mattila
>
s not permitted in package names[1] and if you need to
change the package name anyway, if it is not possible to include the
check in -contrib, could you please stick to the naming scheme and use
something like nagios-plugin-check-v46.
[1] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfiel
* Josselin Mouette [2012-08-10 13:27]:
> Le vendredi 10 août 2012 à 11:56 +0200, Martin Wuertele a écrit :
> > That we do no longer have glibc in the archive and we had a transition
> > to eglibc was an understandable maintainer decision.
>
> glibc/eglibc is not co
using "we" - you don't speak for me.
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* Marco d'Itri [2012-08-10 11:27]:
> On Aug 10, Martin Wuertele wrote:
>
> > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html
> > And that really explains why there is a choice for core functions like
> > kernel event handler: ude
* Josselin Mouette [2012-08-10 10:12]:
> Le vendredi 10 août 2012 à 09:23 +0200, Martin Wuertele a écrit :
> > Please explain why adding another sysv-rc drop-in replacements cripples
> > the Linux port.
>
> Because being able to choose between alternatives for core featur
* Josselin Mouette [2012-08-09 23:15]:
> And no, choice between multiple broken implementation is NOT added
> value. Linux is not about choice.
Luckily that is not everyones opinion.
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> of toy ports?
Please explain why adding another sysv-rc drop-in replacements cripples
the Linux port.
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According to my latest information only the DPL may speak on behalf of
the project which can by overridden by way of a GR. I therefore conclude
that YOU don't want to be able to chose among multiple init
implementatioins.
Yours Martin
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:44:25 +0200
Vincent Bernat wrote:
"arp" can be replaced by "ip neigh", "ifconfig" by "ip addr" or "ip
link", "route" by "ip route", "ipmaddr" by "ip maddr", "mii-tool" by
"ethtool", "netstat" by "ss", "nameif" by "ip link", "iptu
se libpq, not build against postgresql-server-dev-X.Y.
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> The above is incorrect. The keyring only contains Debian developers
> which are packagers or members. Note that we have terminological
> issues on this front (the constitution equates "Debian Developer"
Hi,
Got the same problem. Got rid of it by going to Gnome System Settings ->
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assigned shortcuts (or assigning different ones as I like to have my
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:16:07AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We know no-one likes reading long mails on d-d-a, so we'll keep this
> short: we'll be stopping automatic migrations of packages from unstable
> to testing - aka freezing - on June 30th.
>
> Any packages in unstable before
pec and
> implementation. That's a thing we do quite often anyway. Eg "dpkg" :-)
FTR, I think "autopkgtest" as a spec name is just fine. It conveys
what the standard is about rather well in a really short name.
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Martin Pitt [2012-06-14 14:48 +0200]:
> Right, that would do as well. However, I don't see this on
>
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/
Nevermind, found it; it's by-component apparently.
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should think about an actual name for DEP-8 first (similar to what we
had with DEP-5 -> "copyright 1.0 format"), and then use an
abbreviation of that for the XS-Testsuite: value?
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care about the name or value of the header, but
it's important to agree on one so that we can avoid having to change
lots of packages later on.
Once this is in the standard and proven to work, I'm happy to send a
patch against dpkg-source to add that header automatically.
Thank you,
Ma
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the name is a bad idea, as it is already in use:
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages
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On 2012-05-13 14:54, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> Wordpress upstream doesn't seem to be able to support a stable branch
> long enough for us (and I don't blame them for that, we do know how
> painful it is).
This pretty much sounds like the web browse
* Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez [2012-05-01 23:07]:
> On 27/04/12 19:33, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > ]] Martin Wuertele
> >
> >> * Josselin Mouette [2012-04-27 09:53]:
> >>
> >>> Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 à 22:29 +0200, Svante Signell a écrit :
>
s for having an event driven boot system!
>
> BECAUSE THE LINUX KERNEL IS EVENT DRIVEN.
That's a reason for udev/mdev, however I still fail to see why this
results in the requirement for an event based boot process.
Could you enlighten me please.
Kind regards,
Martin
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Svante Signell wrote:
Hi, when apt-get update the following happens when updating from a port
(that doesn't have a valid public key):
This has been the case for years. Since secure apt got default at least.
No problems before 0.9.x??
Ign http://ftp.debian-ports.org unre
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, Svante Signell wrote:
It seems
like many DMs package new releases/fixes bugs closer to the release than
attending to that now. Of course it is a time/resource issue, but
anyway. Why not package pre-releases in experimental, to squeeze bugs
out before the new upstream release
also sprach Olivier Sallou [2012.04.12.1352 +0200]:
> root@VM-247:# more /etc/cron.d/xgrid
> 0/5 * * * * root xgrid-graph >/dev/null 2>&1
You want */5 …
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> I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce
> the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose.
See RFC2606.
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it is true that Fedora is using
systemd I could not find any evidence that RHEL intends to change any
time soon.
yours Martin
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But they can provide debugging info and some level of analyses that
helps to triage the problems (and if it's a simple set -x in init
scripts).
yours Martin
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e guided by the needs of our users and the free software community.".
You might argue that kFreeBSD does not qualify as "need", however I'm
unsure if a DD is the right persion to define what the needs of debian
users are and what not.
yours Martin
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atever comes first for mtime and mode), and *store the function
> [filename (or inode), size, mtime] => hash*, so that files not modified
> since last run are not hashed again.
Try backuppc or Git, both of which are designed not to require any
deduplication.
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also sprach Samuel Thibault [2012.03.02.1633 +0100]:
> > It can make your scripts a bit more readable for all users.
>
> Why?
Please, let's not get into this debate.
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Christian PERRIER wrote:
Quoting Davide Prina (davide.pr...@gmail.com):
the DDTSS is totally broken :-(
When this change happened, I somehow secretly expected someone to step
up and try fixing the DDT* things. ... So, as many, I discovered the problem
when it happened. not immediately as
If I understand correctly, the current Ubuntu version 1.4-0ubuntu8
works perfectly for Debian. Is there any reason to not upload this
version to Debian?
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odifies… no wait,
"choosing this option" only changes the in-memory state of some UI
widget and hitting enter then informs debconf…
It's good to see that Debian doesn't have any more pressing problems
to solve. ;)
I suggest to use words like "causes" or "yields"
heers,
Martin
1: http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2012/02/maillist.html
2: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657077
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of no use to them or is already
there.
Actually most of the users have to read the English descriptions.
Only Italian
people are lucky enough to have more than 55% translated.
Cheers,
Martin
1: http://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2012/02/msg7.html
2: http
d non-DDs do not care and
start to pester the admins directly [1].
URL and access to the monitoring is documented publicly.
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-services-admin/2012/01/msg3.html
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On 2012-01-26 11:51, Richard Sweeney wrote:
> After some reading, I can probably just leave the assets under the current
> license. I can simply just change it back since it's currently not released?
If "current" license is GPL and someone make a fork based on that your
license change in the futu
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