Re: the ncurses "brushfire" -- anybody want to take over the project?

1997-06-03 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
"Eric S. Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > >ESR has, IMHO, decided to start a pissing match about ncurses > >development. I have no desire to participate or watch. > Mr. Dorman's opinion is understandable but mistaken. Alt

Re: ncurses back on hold...

1997-05-30 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Galen Hazelwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > > RMS has stepped in. I can't quite decide if that's likely to foster > > resolution or small-arms usage. > Stepped in on whose side? No ones in particular, though I suspect ESR could se

ncurses package orphaned...

1997-05-30 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
ation disks. + --- ncurses-4.1.orig/debian/changelog +++ ncurses-4.1/debian/changelog @@ -0,0 +1,45 @@ +ncurses (4.1-1) unstable; urgency=low + + * New upstream version. Removed deb-files. + + -- Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed, 7 May 1997 16:39:28 -0400 + +ncurses (4.0-1) unst

Re: ncurses back on hold...

1997-05-30 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: > Any new work I do will use slang rather than ncurses. Can't say as I'd blame you. RMS has stepped in. I can't quite decide if that's likely to foster resolution or small-arms usage. Mike. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "uns

ncurses back on hold...

1997-05-30 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Well. Anyone want to venture any opinions? Mike. --- Begin Message --- Jesse Thilo writes: > On Thu, May 29, 1997 at 09:18:48PM -0400, T.E.Dickey wrote: > > > To the terminfo.src maintainer, > > c'est moi > > Since when? (Seriously) Mr. Dickey appears to have decided that hijacking one projec

Re: Perl 5.004, perl modules, and binary compatibility

1997-05-20 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
"Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My main concern is that they neither bunch up on the dpkg select screen, > nor is it easy to search for perl modules in dselect (I'd like to be able > to find all the perl modules by searching on perl). BTW, I maintain alias and www-search (and libwww

'nother glitch with new source format...

1996-08-27 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
I've almost finished converting a whole package---the only thing I lack is a completed .changes file. When running dpkg-buildpackage on my testbed, I get the following: -8<- Enter pass phrase: Pass phrase is good. Key for user ID: Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 102

New source format and related issues...

1996-08-18 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Well, I think, if I can get it to work, that the new source format will be fine. _IF_ I can get it to work. I've looked at the docs, I've examined hello and dpkg, and I'll be damned if I can find any information that would allow me to actually reproduce the files that were uploaded to master, and

Re: Does kernel-package assume /etc/psdatabase -> /boot/psdatabase?

1996-08-17 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Douglas Bates writes: >so after running /sbin/psupdate there is an attempt to find if >/boot/psdatabase-2.0.12 exists. The documentation for psupdate >indicates that it writes a new version of /etc/psdatabase. I checked >and indeed that file was updated. Am I supp

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-17 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miquel van Smoorenburg writes: >Which reminds me: RedHat is going to integrate PAM into their next release. >Perhaps now is a good time to look if we should consider using that too, >or if we think that shadow is good enough for now. Someone's already compiled libpa

Bug#4152: psupdate writes /etc/psdatabase, not /boot/psdatabase

1996-08-14 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
package: procps version: 1.01a-1 psupdate seems to have recently taken to writing the psdatabase into /etc, not into /boot. This breaks the current kernel-package slightly (nothing fatal, just annoying). If /boot was the wrong place, please let me know so we can update kernel-package. If /etc i

Bug#4136: debian-changelog-mode.el broken...

1996-08-14 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
package: dpkg version: 1.3.4 There seems to be a problem with debian-changelog-mode. When I attempt to finalize the release, I get the following message in the minibuffer: Searching for program: no such file or directory, 822-date It's fairly obvious where it's happening (just grep for 822-date

Bug#4135: dpkg-source must attent to VERSION_CONTROL

1996-08-14 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
package: dpkg version: 1.3.4 Some of us use the VERSION_CONTROL environment variable to get emacs and patch (among others) to create a revision history when editing files. Unfortunately, dpkg-source doesn't pay any attention to the setting for that variable, and therefore assumes patch will work

Bug#4130: Old motif applications don't run

1996-08-14 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas Koenig writes: >The problem is that Maple looks for these things under /usr/X386, >as verified with strace. > >Solution: cd /usr ; ln -s X11R6 X386 Real Solution: Complain to your vendor about the use of inappropriate paths. Installing a link to /usr/X386 i

Re: New package standards - LAST CALL

1996-08-13 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ian Jackson writes: >Therefore I propose that unless someone raises a serious problem or >issue within the next week or two the new packaging guidelines as >described in the draft dpkg programmers' manual, the draft Debian >policy manual and as implemented by dpkg 1.

big ncurses change on horizon...

1996-08-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
The upstream ncurses sources underwent a soname change about two months ago. They seem likely to undergo another one in the immediate future, so it's just as well I hadn't worried with packaging the current stuff yet. Neither of these changes can be ignored, as they involve mods to some public da

Automating printcap configuration...

1996-08-09 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
I find that I really need the ability to run filters on remote printers, something that the current lpr package Just Won't Do, so I quickly packaged LPRng, and now have it running on one of my machines. Before foisting it off onto the rest of the world, I'm interested to find out what people would

Re: Perl vs Python vs ....

1996-08-03 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kai Henningsen writes: >That's a problem, but it's not the problem I meant. For difficult to >parse, well, compare these two lines: > a =~ s/some/thing... > b = c/d >Very bad syntax design, that. There's always s,some,thing, or s|some|thing| or whatever. >Eit

Re: XF86 betas (Re: D68K: The next step...)

1996-08-01 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mr Stuart Lamble writes: >annoyed that if I want support for my W32p (revision A), I have to go >to 3.1.2E - and it's not available for Debian. Net result: either I >have proper support for my card, and can't install new X-based packages >(dpkg barfs at the postinst

Public archive of ftp and debian-bugs...

1996-06-16 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
I just wanted to let everyone know that debian.med.miami.edu is now up and running. Our mirror of the complete distribution can be found at: ftp://debian.med.miami.edu/debian In addition, we have a complete copy of the debian-bugs database available at: http://debian.med.miami.edu/ Rather

If no section/priority in control file, then where?

1996-06-16 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
OK, last Thursday I was told that use of section and priority in the control files of packages was deprecated by those whose opinions would seem to matter most---Ian Jackson, dpkg maintainer, and Guy Maor, archive maintainer. This is fine with me---one less detail to track for each package. What

Bug#3306: dpkg --build inflexible about output location

1996-06-16 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
package: dpkg version: 1.2.6elf I decided to play with the debian.rules file for one of my packages, and one of the things I thought to do was actually create the .deb file in its "final resting place", instead of creating then moving it. $ pwd /home/mdorman/prog $ dpkg --build glimpse/tmp dpkg-d

_ in source archive names?

1996-06-16 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Is it intended that developers use the _ to separate package name and version information in the names of .tar.gz and .diff.gz files? Mike. -- "Don't let me make you unhappy by failing to be contrary enough"

Files on the FTP site...

1996-01-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
ncurses3.0-1.9.8a-3 should be in base, seeing as how it contains the shared libraries. Also, strictly speaking, ncurses-bin-1.9.8a-3 probably doesn't _need_ to be in base (I'd hope the programs in it probably aren't going to see much use). Also, the latest versions of minicom/lrzsz seem to have

Bug#2083: machine hangs when ftping large file

1996-01-03 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
>The network card is an Intel Etherexpress 16. This is the problem right here. The Intel driver, when confronted with a large file being transferred over a local subnet on a fast (P5) system, will spool a zillion messages to your syslog (as the errors mount) and then fall over. I have verified

Bug#2081: named does not start

1996-01-02 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jean-Marc Bourguet w rites: >PS=`ps -p $PID 2>/dev/null| tail -1 | grep named` You might want to make this PS=`ps -p $PID 2>/dev/null| tail -1 | grep named | grep -v grep` so that it doesn't pick up the grep process as well. Mike. -- "I thought I'd something more

Bug#2055: Mirror: two problems using files for associative arrays

1995-12-20 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Package: mirror Version: 2.8 Revision: 0 I'm sending this as a debian problem report and to the mirror list. The first, and less important issue is that due to a typo in the mirror.pl file, mirror stores temporary files in / when using associative arrays to store information about local and remo

Bug#2053: libjpeg doesn't have .so link for compiling...

1995-12-19 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Package: libjpeg Version: 6 Revision: 1 In order to be able to link with the shared library version of libjpeg, the package needs to include a link from /usr/lib/libjpeg.so to /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6. Mike. -- "I'm a dinosaur. Somebody's digging my bones."

Re: More ncurses...

1995-12-18 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Mon, 18 Dec 1995, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > I believe under ELF it would actually be dynamically loaded are > therefore not drag libncurses into perl unless you actually used it, > but it's so wonderful I think it deserves a mention l-) You know, you'd think I'd remember that, considering I w

Re: More ncurses...

1995-12-18 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Fri, 15 Dec 1995, roro wrote: > My bash is now (and should be in the future, maybe even with shared > readline): > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:tty1:/lib# ldd /bin/bash > libncurses.so.3.0 => /lib/libncurses.so.3.0 > libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5.2.18 > > and don't like to be invoked wit

Re: ALPHA release of apache-1.0.0-1 now available

1995-12-18 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Mon, 18 Dec 1995, Chris Fearnley wrote: > >* Should we create a new user and/or group to control access to the > >hierarchy of html files? If so, why don't we make it "official" and get > >Bruce to include in the base /etc/group and /etc/passwd files. > User nobody and group nogroup is either

Bug#2040: xserver-mach32 won't do 1024x768x16bpp...

1995-12-17 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Package: xserver-mach32 Version: 3.1.2-2 This is a documented bug in the original source---I believe I sent a patch that could be used to create a xserver-mach32x or something that would be compiled to allow users who wanted to to drive their cards at something resembling its capabilities. Mike.

Re: ALPHA release of apache-1.0.0-1 now available

1995-12-17 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sun, 17 Dec 1995, Chris Fearnley wrote: > This is a preliminary release. It seems to work, but I'm disatisfied > with my handling of httpd configuration (basically there is none - you > have to edit /etc/httpd/* by hand). Hmm. That's what kept me from releasing mine. Maybe we can decide what

Re: coming soon

1995-12-16 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sat, 16 Dec 1995, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > All the other Linux distributions are going to /etc/rc.d/* because > that's what comes with the svinit package. It works very well; in > practice I've found that it's one of the things that I like better > about my Red Hat system than my Debian syst

Bug#2030: fileutils should depend on libc5

1995-12-15 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Package: fileutils-3.12 Revision: 3 The package seems to contain ELF executables, yet does not depend upon libc5. Mike. -- "I'm a dinosaur. Somebody's digging my bones."

Re: More ncurses...

1995-12-14 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 14 Dec 1995, J.H.M.Dassen wrote: > > Moved /lib/libncurses.so to /usr/lib/libncurses.so. > Mike, I'm not too happy with this. This prevents libreadline.so from > using it, and thus prevents bash from using the shared libreadline. > Can you explain why you moved it? Sorry, let me explain:

Erick Branderhorst Saves the World...

1995-12-14 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Well, actually, all he did was suggest an excellent solution for something that had been bothering me about the ncurses packages: When installing ncurses-base, you have to do all sorts of special things using dpkg to get dpkg to pretend that you're not messing things up by removing ncurses-runti

More ncurses...

1995-12-13 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
A few relatively minor changes. Date: 14 Dec 95 01:39 UT Source: ncurses Binary: ncurses-base ncurses-bin ncurses-term ncurses3.0 ncurses3.0-dev Version: 1.9.8a-3 Description: ncurses-base: Video terminal manipulation: Minimum set of terminals ncurses-bin: Video terminal manipulation: associa

Re: Shared libraries mysteriously disappearing

1995-12-13 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, David Engel wrote: > The easiest solution I came up with was to only run ldconfig from > postinst scripts and not from postrm scripts. The only disadvantage I > can see from doing this is that a stale link and an outdated entry in > ld.so.cache may get left behind if the packa

Re: bumping the version number

1995-12-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > Making the parent directory unreadable caused mirror programs to not mirror > that directory. They might mirror the symlink, but it won't do much good. Although they could mirror if they had a special userid/password (as I believe has been set up)---they

ncurses ELF status report

1995-12-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
ncurses for ELF is still not quite ready for public consumption. Anyone who downloads it and installs it should be prepared for possible bumps in the road. I think they're all taken care of, but even so, be prepared. In addition to the fact that it's still getting some of the kinks worked out,

Re: newest ncurses

1995-12-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > I'm now uploading ncurses-1.9.8a-2 & co. It is also available for ftp > from lot49.med.miami.edu:/pub/linux/ until it gets cleared at > ftp.debian.org. I forgot to mention that you will almost certainly have to use 'dpkg

newest ncurses

1995-12-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
I'm now uploading ncurses-1.9.8a-2 & co. It is also available for ftp from lot49.med.miami.edu:/pub/linux/ until it gets cleared at ftp.debian.org. Please don't release any packages that depend on this for a couple of days at least. Anyone who's seeing problems with the current package, please

Re: ncurses-1.9.8a ELF release

1995-12-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Chris Fearnley wrote: > It doesn't make sense to me. I thought that the runtime package would > include all of the shared libraries that other programs might need. It does. > Isn't that what lib*.so provide, the shared libraries? And the > symlinks are used by ld.so, no? O

Re: ncurses-1.9.8a ELF release

1995-12-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, David Engel wrote: > I have been told that this is undesirable for some autoconfed programs > with emacs being the most notable example. I don't remember all of > the details but it has to do with forcing autoconf to use the > curses/termlib interface to ncurses instead of the

Re: upgrading to ncurses-1.9.8a (and subsequent)

1995-12-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Bill Mitchell wrote: > Package installation succeeded without my removing ncurses-runtime > or ncurses-developer. How are users to users know that they should > remove these? With so many variables to juggle, I missed one. Taken care of in -2, which also addresses all of th

Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Stephen Early wrote: > > I think ncurses wins an award for "most packages from one source archive." > ...soon to be trumped by X, which is currently generating 24 packages > from one source archive. Forgot about that one --- the whole group come from just the one source pac

Re: ncurses-1.9.8a ELF release

1995-12-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, David Engel wrote: > The -dev package provides virtual ncurses-dev package but it also > needs to conflict with it. Oops. You told me that. Done. > The symlinks for lib*.so are in the runtime package. They should be > in the -dev package. Makes sense. Done. > The shared

Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, roro wrote: > ncurses-base-1.9.8a-1.deb should have a debian.preinst to kill > the link etc/terminfo -> ../usr/lib/terminfo provided by base-0.93.6. > Or it is intended that these fall into /usr/lib/terminfo? No, it isn't. They are supposed to be totally disconnected. Thanks

Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, roro wrote: > Minor doc-bug in ncurses-1.9.8a/debian.README: > ncurses21 should read ncurses3.0 Blast, I thought I had parameterized that _everywhere_. Oh, well. It's fixed. > I hope ncurses3.0 will be a stabile ABI, since a lot of packages depends > on it. That's why I

Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-10 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Matthew Bailey wrote: > There is NO problem with uploads. The fact that I receive 10-5 mails a > day to ftpadmin about corrupt files in private/project/Incoming made me > opt for this method. This should be for INCOMING use only. the files will > be available as soon as the f

ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-09 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Since ftp.debian.org seems to still be having problems with people downloading new files, I'm putting a copy of ncurses-1.9.8a in ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/bruce/Incoming, since a handful of people have contacted me since yesterday to ask if I could send them copies directly. I think ncurses wins

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-09 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, David Engel wrote: > Yes, but not directly. The way I did it was to have tcl74-dev both > provide and conflict with the virtual package tcl-dev. When tcl75-dev > comes out, it will do the same thing. This has the advantage of only > allowing one tcl*-dev package to be install

announcing ncurses 1.9.8a (fwd)

1995-12-09 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Well, I figure all the work I did on 1.9.7a will apply to 1.9.8a. Also, Jeff, they're almost promising the ABI will quit changing! Mike. -- "I'm a dinosaur. Somebody's digging my bones." -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 21:29:57 -0800 From: Zeyd M. Ben-Halim <[EMAI

ncurses out within the hour...

1995-12-08 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
I'll be uploading the new shared-lib ELF ncurses package(s) within the hour (just as soon as I rebuild the dist files to get rid of a few spurious nohup.out files I left behind...). I think I've got all bases covered, but I'd certainly not mind having a few especially adventurous souls looking

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-08 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Jeff Noxon wrote: > I have several months of the ncurses list archived. If anyone is interested > in having a copy of the archive, please let me know how to deliver it. :) How big is it? > > I suspect that the distributed packaging responsibility will make it > > unlikely th

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-08 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, David Engel wrote: > > ncurses2-1.9.7a-1.deb will be the shared library package. It is ncurses2 > > because the major portion of the soname is 2. It will depend on libc5 and > > ncurses-base. > This should be ncurses21-* (or ncurses2.1-*). As was already noted, > the major ver

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-08 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Jeff Noxon wrote: > If the ncurses guys are going to keep blowing off binary compatibility, > then perhaps we should not mess with ncurses at all. I suspect, especially now that we've got the package load spread around more, that Debian will be able to keep up. > I'm not real

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, roro wrote: > Contrary to libc5, where the soname is libc.so.5, an therefore > libc.so.5.0.0 until libc.so.5.2.16 are interchangeble (or was supposed > to be) ncurses has the soname libncurses.so.2.x. ncurses2 has no meaning > if the ABI between libncurses.so.2.0 and libncurse

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: > > ncurses-term-1.9.7a-1.deb will contain the monolithic set of terminfo > > files. It depends on the lockstep revision of ncurses-base (since we > > might move a few more things out of term and into base as they seem > > appropriate -- getting out of syn

Bug#1984: dpkg won't install cdtool

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: > That sounds like the same bug. > I'm worried about it, but I don't have enough to go on. I'll see if I can re-create it. I'll mention that I _may_ have done the first installation of cdtool with 1.0.6, but then you warned people away from it and I grabbed

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: > That all sounds reasonable. I take it that the terminfo manipulation > programs and the manpages are small enough that having them installed > on every system is not a problem (ncurses-runtime will be an essential > package). Actually, they're going into a

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, David Engel wrote: > This will be necessary -- the ncurses developers have already changed > the shared library version number once since they introduced shared > library support and have indicated they won't hesitate to do so again. I wondered at the fact that soname was .2.1.

ncurses build options...

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
OK, here's what I think I've come up with: ncurses-runtime: shared libraries (in /lib) looks for files first in /etc/terminfo then /usr/lib/terminfo has linux as compiled in fall-back. terminfo manipulation programs man pages for the program

Unidentified subject!

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, David Engel wrote: > > So far I have been unable to find a copy of the patch that lets you fall > > back to another directory. However, support is already in there to allow > I don't know that the patch even exists anymore. However, a quick and > dirty hack is only a two line

Re: Building ncurses...a couple of questions...

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, J.H.M.Dassen wrote: > I don't see the necessity of this. Take bash for instance: it uses > readline, which uses ncurses. Taking this to its logical absurdity, we get: "Let's just require that everything be on one big hard drive so it's all in the root partition so we don't ha

Bug#1984: dpkg won't install cdtool

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: > Michael Alan Dorman writes ("Bug#1984: dpkg won't install cdtool"): > > Try doing a --purge first. I was having a similar problem and that > > solved it. > > I just assumed it was my system, but apparently not. >

Re: Building ncurses...a couple of questions...

1995-12-07 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Wed, 6 Dec 1995, Raul Miller wrote: > I wasn't thinking about anything specific... I was just worrying about > potential configurations with no /usr partition. > I probably shouldn't have even mailed the original message. No, I think it's a valid question to bring up---I was just confused about

Siggy responsibe for gcc/libc/libg++?

1995-12-01 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, David Engel wrote: > > If they're not already claimed, I would be interested in taking them over. > > In fact, I've got gcc 2.7.2 already packaged up (Ian Murdock's diffs to > > 2.6.3 applied flawlessly over 2.7.2). > ELF or a.out? I think Siggy (?) may have claimed gcc and p

Responsibility for gcc/libc/libg++?

1995-12-01 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
I seem to remember that Ian Murdock gave up these packages. I don't remember hearing of anyone picking them up. If they're not already claimed, I would be interested in taking them over. In fact, I've got gcc 2.7.2 already packaged up (Ian Murdock's diffs to 2.6.3 applied flawlessly over 2.7.2

New X package

1995-11-28 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
> The new X packages that I hope to release before Christmas will be ELF, > compiled from the XFree86-3.1.2S sources rather than from the binaries > distributed by XFree86. If you're looking for input, I might request that you release two versions of the Mach32 Server --- one that is just like

TERM=linux & ncurses-1.9.7a...

1995-11-20 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
There seems to be some problem(s) with the 'linux' entry in the terminfo database. I recompiled minicom to use it (figured I'd get the ELF version out of the way) and now all of the dialogs are broken --- specifically, I get extraneous `1m` strings in unusual places. This doesn't happen if I ru

Re: aout-* packages

1995-11-17 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Fri, 17 Nov 1995, David Engel wrote: > The kernel can still be compiled in a.out format. The a.out > development tools aren't completely going away. They just won't be > the default. If you really want to compile 1.2.13 in ELF format, I > suggest you politely request Linus to update it one la

Re: aout-* packages

1995-11-17 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Fri, 17 Nov 1995, J.H.M.Dassen wrote: > Since 1.0 is going to be ELF (meaning that all its binaries will be ELF, and > that it compiles for ELF by default), with backward compatibility to compile > and run a.out binaries, new packages are being made, that put their ELF stuff > in the standard

Re: Setting up a PPP server

1995-11-16 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Brian Hutchinson wrote: > Has anyone setup a PPP server under Debian? > I tried a few times with R5 without much luck. I set one up under R5. I'm looking to redo some of that work because the pppd in R6 should be able to act without a getty on the serial port which means yo

Re: Source packages

1995-11-01 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > The second file is an executable script that performs the actual > extraction, creating a subdirectory under the current directory > and moving files as necessary. Its name is EXTRACT, and it must have > execute permissions set. Bi

Re: Debian for Linux/{non-i386} / source packaging

1995-10-31 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, David Engel wrote: >First, I prefer to go with unmodified, upstream source. Second, I >really mean unmodified, i.e.. the Debianizing script (or whatever) must >take care of unpacking into subdirectories, if necessary. I'll go further and say that I think that any approach t

Bug#1777: Source not compiling properly?

1995-10-29 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, Karl Ferguson wrote: > Now, it wont quit at the point - it goes on to finish. But when booting the > kernel I get this error: > > unregister_netdev: device 'ppp0' unlinked > unregister_netdev: device 'ppp1' unlinked > unregister_netdev: device 'ppp2' unlinked > unregister_netd

Re: Bug#1774: : _PATH_DEFPATH contains `.'

1995-10-29 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, Bill Mitchell wrote: > On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > > > This should read "/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin", without the "." > > While we're at it, would it be appropriate to have xdm also set this as > > the

Re: Bug#1774: : _PATH_DEFPATH contains `.'

1995-10-28 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: > #define _PATH_DEFPATH"/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:." > > This should read "/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin", without the "." > entry. Quite apart from the security implications, teaching new users > always to run their programs with "./foo" will stop

Re: Conflicting with a range of revisions...

1995-10-24 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
> "Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> `|' is not allowed in conflicts; `,' is used to mean OR. It would be nice if CONFLICTS and the other fields used the same notation for OR/AND, instead of being in direct apposition. Could the current behavior be gradually phased out

Conflicting with a range of revisions...

1995-10-22 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Well, I've decided to return to Matt Porters' previous split between minicom and lrzsz. One side-effect of this is that I need to make the updated lrzsz package conflict just with minicom-1.71-[1..2] (the ones that included lrzsz). I can't seem to make it do so. I've tried specifying: CONFL

Bug#1725: /etc/init.d/ppp still sources /etc/init.d/functions

1995-10-21 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Package: ppp Revision: 2.2-1 /etc/init.d/ppp still sources /etc/init.d/functions which, I believe, was decided to be a no-no, since start-stop-daemon subsumed all of its functionality, and since any script that uses it is effectively disabled from command-line use because /etc/init.d/functions ch

Re: Package Giveaway, Take Two

1995-10-20 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Fri, 20 Oct 1995, Bernd S. Brentrup wrote: > (ii) Distributing the Program on a CD-ROM, provided that the files > containing the Program are reproduced entirely and verbatim on such > CD-ROM, and provided further that all information on such CD-ROM be > redistributable for non-commercial p

Re: ppp 2.2?

1995-10-04 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Ian Murdock wrote: > Has anyone gotten ppp 2.2 to work? It has been shown to work on 1.2.XX. I've not done it. > I finally got it to compile, after realizing that I had to install a > few replacement kernel headers. Why are these kernel headers not in > the standard distribu

Re: why all the .notar files on ftp.debian.org???

1995-10-04 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, Michael E. Deisher wrote: > Does anyone know why "get dirname.tar" has been disabled on the ftp > site. I would guess because a .notar file has (or had) been created in /debian. Mike. -- "And I swear that I don't have a gun."

Bug#1540: fvwm should require/recommend m4

1995-10-03 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Package: fvwm Version: 1.24r Revision: 6 The system.fvwm pretty much requires m4 (you get errors in your ~/.xsession-errors, not to mention the fact that it's basically unusable) but it's not even recommended by the package. Mike. -- "And I swear that I don't have a gun."

Bug#1530: Source doesn't seem to depend on bin86

1995-10-02 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
I can think of a couple of reasons that bin86 might not be in the true-blue depends for the source package, but I'd think it'd at least be "recommended" since you can't compile a new kernel without it. Mike. -- "And I swear that I don't have a gun."

Bug#1523: Re-report of bug in /sbin/installkernel

1995-10-01 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Package: miscutils The /sbin/installkernel that is in the miscutils package on the September 30 basedisks makes a reference to "./mkboot". This is a problem since mkboot now resides in /usr/sbin. Mike. -- "And I swear that I don't have a gun."

Bug#1522: Some things still depend on ncurses-runtime...

1995-10-01 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Package: minicom Version: 1.6 I know this one isn't likely to get fixed before the drop-dead, but for the record, minicom depends on ncurses-runtime. If the original maintainer has abandoned this package (and it seems he has), I'm willing to take it over, though there's no chance I'll get it don

Bug#1517: Rebooting from install disks has errors

1995-10-01 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Package: base Rebooting my system from the 9/27 boot/root menu gets some dismaying messages and invariably cause a kernel error. I think it's an OOPS --- I'm not 100% clear on the difference between an OOPS and a PANIC. 8< _setutent: Can't open utmp file: no such file or directory _setu

Bug#1507: Still no /etc/services

1995-09-28 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Package: base After an uneventful install, I logged in to find that /etc/services has apparently been overlooked. I realize that there was some discussion as to whether or not it actually belonged in netbase, but it has to be a zillion times more relevant to the base installation than, say, smb.

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