Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-06 Thread Michael Biebl
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:14:51AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >>> Ubuntu. The FHS is silent about directories in /var/run across reboots >>> but requires that all files in /var/run be deleted on reboot. > >>>> 4.) You have to manua

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-06 Thread Michael Biebl
Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 06:42:29AM +0200]: >> Not quite sure what the question is. As far as I know, Debian >> supported tmpfs mounted /var/run when I become co-maintainer of >> sysvinit, and I have tried to keep it this way. The only recent >> changes

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Russ Allbery schrieb: > > I believe the original motivation for tmpfs /var/run in Solaris was that > it was pointless to maintain scripts that try to clean /var/run (or /tmp > or any other defined-transient directory) on boot, which can be dangerous > and tricky if you don't write them carefully,

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Biebl writes: >> Russ Allbery wrote: >>> Michael Biebl writes: > >>>> Another class of services which might be affected, are >>>> daemons/programs started by inetd. > >>> Why would they put anything in /var

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Biebl writes: >> Russ Allbery wrote: > >>> It is, however, a standard and supported option and it's the default in >> >> Hm, what standard exactly do you refer too. > > standard, adjective [16

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Biebl writes: > >> Another class of services which might be affected, are daemons/programs >> started by inetd. > > Why would they put anything in /var/run? > I guess for the same reasons why other system daemons put stuff in /var/run

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Michael Biebl wrote: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> Michael Biebl writes: >>> 5.) If your package does not have an init script (I happen to maintain >>> two such packages), I now have to create init scripts simply to create a >>> /var/run directory. That'

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Biebl writes: Hi Russ >> 1.) It's not the default on Debian anyway > > It is, however, a standard and supported option and it's the default in Hm, what standard exactly do you refer too. > Ubuntu. The FHS

Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi, one of the changes in 3.8.1 was, that support for tmpfs on /var/run (and /var/tmp) became mandatory [9.3.2]. Lintian is now also complaining very loudly (error) if your package ships a directory in /var/run or /var/tmp and suggests to create them in the init script. While I can see the benefi

Re: Request for Comments: Standardize enabling/disabling of system services

2009-04-01 Thread Michael Biebl
Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 06:12:29PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> I don't like this idea of RUN=yes variables in /etc/default. >> >> 1.) There is already a documented interface, how to disable a service (i.e. >> renaming t

Re: Request for Comments: Standardize enabling/disabling of system services

2009-04-01 Thread Michael Biebl
Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > Hi, > > currently we seem to have no clear policy in Debian how to handle > the question: "Shall a service started once its installed or not?" > The current state of affairs is that some packages start after beeing > installed, some don't, because they don't have a reas

Re: [GSoC] KDE4/Qt4 based package manager

2009-03-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Obey Arthur Liu wrote: > Mateusz 'Matthew' Marek a écrit : > >> That's why I think the best way to make Qt4 based package manager is >> make it from scratch. > Are you sure you can make a graphical package manager in one summer, > from scratch ? > We believe the current best approach would be to

Re: Bug#519070: fixed in raptor 1.4.18-2

2009-03-29 Thread Michael Biebl
Michael Biebl wrote: > Rene Engelhard wrote: >> * debian/rules: >> - build against OpenSSL versions of curl and (especially) neon again >> as the webdav ucp now directly links against openssl... >> (reopens: #391671). Use system-openssl. >> &

Re: Bug#519070: fixed in raptor 1.4.18-2

2009-03-29 Thread Michael Biebl
Rene Engelhard wrote: > clone 519695 -1 > reassign -1 openoffice.org > retitle -1 raptor links against openssl > reopen -1 > found -1 1:3.0.0~ooo300m3-1 > thanks > > Hi, > > Dave Beckett wrote: >> Changes: >> raptor (1.4.18-2) unstable; urgency=low >> . >>* Link to libcurl-gnutls to remove

Bug#521365: ITP: gnome-disk-utility -- manage and configure disk drives and media

2009-03-26 Thread Michael Biebl
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Biebl * Package name: gnome-disk-utility Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : David Zeuthen * URL : http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnome-disk-utility/ * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: C Description : manage

Bug#521364: ITP: devicekit-disks -- abstraction for enumerating block devices

2009-03-26 Thread Michael Biebl
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Biebl * Package name: devicekit-disks Version : 003 Upstream Author : David Zeuthen * URL : http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/DeviceKit-disks * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: C Description

Bug#521363: ITP: devicekit-power -- abstraction for power management

2009-03-26 Thread Michael Biebl
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Biebl * Package name: devicekit-power Version : 006 Upstream Author : David Zeuthen , Richard Hughes * URL : http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/DeviceKit-power * License : GPL-2+ Programming

Bug#521361: ITP: devicekit -- abstraction for enumerating devices

2009-03-26 Thread Michael Biebl
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Biebl * Package name: devicekit Version : 003 Upstream Author : David Zeuthen * URL : http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/DeviceKit/ * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: C Description : abstraction for

Re: changes in pam: automatic configuration of PAM modules

2009-03-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Steve Langasek wrote: > As a result of the prototyping work done on this within Ubuntu, patches are > already available for several module packages (libpam-krb5, libpam-ldap, > libpam-smbpass, ecryptfs-utils, libpam-ck-connector) which I will work on > submitting to the Debian maintainers over the

Re: changes in pam: automatic configuration of PAM modules

2009-03-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Steve Langasek wrote: > Dear developers, > > I'm happy to announce that with the latest upload of pam to unstable, we at > last have an interface that allows both automatic and interactive > configuration of system authentication, using that staple of the Debian > system, debconf. > Very nice wo

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-06 Thread Michael Biebl
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Fri, 06 Mar 2009, Michael Biebl wrote: >> dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown information field 'Format' in input data in >> general section of control info file >> >> Should I file a bug against dpkg-dev for that? >> >> An

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > I will do (thanks to Lucas Nussbaum) another archive rebuild in the > upcoming weeks to see if we have new failures. Hopefully the release team > can grant the status of release goal to this project so that we can more > easily NMU the remaining packages. > Will you do

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > All in all, things are in a rather good shape but I still need some help. > While I tested extensively the dpkg-source side, we still need to ensure > that all our additional tools cope well with the new source package > format (*-buildpackage, apt-get source, lintian,

Re: Desktop standards, MIME info cache, and Lintian

2009-02-11 Thread Michael Biebl
Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:03:27PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: >>> I don’t think it’s a good idea to use triggers for >>> update-desktop-database. There are many .desktop files without a >>> MimeType key, and for all of them callin

Re: Desktop standards, MIME info cache, and Lintian

2009-02-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 10 février 2009 à 13:34 +0100, Michael Biebl a écrit : >> Joss, what's your opintion on update-mime-database (dh_installmime) and >> update-icon-caches (dh_icons)? >> Should we triggerize them too? > > For update-icon-caches, th

Re: Desktop standards, MIME info cache, and Lintian

2009-02-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 10 février 2009 à 12:03 +0100, Loïc Minier a écrit : >> sudo update-desktop-database -q 0,06s user 0,02s system 96% cpu 0,075 total > > I didn’t recall it was that cheap. The trigger is then definitely the > way to go. > Joss, what's your opintion on update-m

Re: Desktop standards, MIME info cache, and Lintian

2009-02-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > Michael Biebl wrote: >> Maybe i missinterpreted your conclusion, but this what I get in one of my >> packages: >> desktop-mimetype-without-update-call /usr/share/applications/... >> >> Now that we have triggers, I really don&#

Re: Desktop standards, MIME info cache, and Lintian

2009-02-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Russ Allbery wrote: > Loïc Minier writes: > >> I can see how it would be useful to recommend calling dh_desktop as >> soon as you distribute .desktop files just like it would be more useful >> if we could inject any rules in packages via cdbs or the new "dh". >> However, this is really packag

Re: Packaging of a few new wireless packages

2009-01-23 Thread Michael Biebl
Luis R. Rodriguez schrieb: > I'd like to help get a few new wireless userspace applications > packaged into Debian unstable. Here are the new ones: > > * iw http://packages.debian.org/experimental/iw > * crda > * wireless-regdb Probably the best contact is Debian/Ubuntu wpasupplicant Maintainer

Re: integration with power management stacks

2009-01-11 Thread Michael Biebl
Kel Modderman wrote: > On Sunday 11 January 2009 22:07:21 Stephen Gran wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I have a couple of open bug reports about integration of hdparm with >> power management stacks (people would, quite rightly, like to see their >> disk settings reapplied at resume) - 468307 and 510676

Re: Configuration files location for GNOME applet

2008-11-22 Thread Michael Biebl
Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 22 novembre 2008 à 00:27 +0100, Andrew M. a écrit : >> Hi. >> I recently developed a small GNOME applet and I wanted to share it among a >> few friends. It uses a couple of files to save settings and I was >> wondering what's the best location to store them. >> I

Re: List of RC-buggy source packages by maintainer/uploader

2008-10-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Hideki Yamane wrote: > Wow, I'm on the top of list! ;) > > On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:28:51 +0200 > Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hideki Yamane (Debian-JP) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>naist-jdic > > Bug#500704 and #500748, Those bugs are fixed in unstable version, but I've > waited fo

Re: RFC: update-rc.d

2008-09-23 Thread Michael Biebl
Marvin Renich wrote: > I don't think disabling and enabling a service is the right paradigm. > What I want, when I am fiddling with services, is to switch between > automatic and manual. In automatic mode, changes in runlevel do the > traditional starting and stopping of services based on the sym

Re: RFC: update-rc.d

2008-09-22 Thread Michael Biebl
Kel Modderman wrote: > Hi all, > > This email describes an extension of update-rc.d to provide an interface > for disabling and reenabling initscript sysvinit runlevel start links. > Hi again, thinking more about it, I think a function "is-enabled" would be quite handy. This would allow to quer

Re: [RFC] How should rsyslog handle .0 logfiles from sysklogd

2008-09-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Marc Haber schrieb: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:57:54 +0200, Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> 2.) Try to log rotate the .0 files for the default Debian log files in >> postinst. I feel a bit uneasy about this approach, for several reasons: >> - It adds fairl

Re: RFC: update-rc.d

2008-09-20 Thread Michael Biebl
Kel Modderman wrote: > Hi all, > > This email describes an extension of update-rc.d to provide an interface > for disabling and reenabling initscript sysvinit runlevel start links. > > It contains a patch that is the last in a series[0] of patches submitted to > the sysvinit team. After speaking

Re: [RFC] How should rsyslog handle .0 logfiles from sysklogd

2008-09-20 Thread Michael Biebl
Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri,19.Sep.08, 23:57:54, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> Afaics I have the following options. >> 1.) Do nothing and simply document this fact in README.Debian, telling >> the admin that he can safely delete this files if he no longer needs them. &

[RFC] How should rsyslog handle .0 logfiles from sysklogd

2008-09-19 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi, as rsyslog will be our default syslogd for lenny, I'd like to fix bug #491672 [1], I'm just undecided about which solution is best. rsyslog, in contrast to sysklogd, uses logrotate to rotate the default log files. Unfortunately sysklogd uses a custom log rotate mechanism, which starts the log

Re: Quilt runs crazy?

2008-09-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Michael Biebl wrote: > Btw, the handling of config.{guess,sub} is a bit weird imho. > You update it conditionally in autotools: and unconditionally in > clean-patched. Oh, and another thing: Updating config.{guess,sub} doesn't require to run autoconf afterwards. It's also v

Re: Quilt runs crazy?

2008-09-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi, > > when trying to build Debian packages from alpine 2.0 (Asheesh, I > try to sort out this first and then will send you a patch) I observed > a really strange issue with quilt. Please have a look at > > http://people.debian.org/~tille/packages/alpine/ > > where I

Bug#497613: ITP: librelp -- Reliable Event Logging Protocol (RELP) library

2008-09-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: librelp Version : 0.1.1 Upstream Author : Rainer Gerhards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.librelp.com/ * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: C

Bug#78782: syslogs in debian

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Biebl
Török Edwin wrote: > On 2008-08-25 20:37, Michael Biebl wrote: >> The current default syslog for Debian is rsyslog. >> > > I just installed using Debian lenny beta2 installer, and then did a > dist-upgrade to sid, my syslog is still > sysklogd (though apt-g

Bug#78782: syslogs in debian

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Biebl
Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi Michael, > > as you know the state of the various syslogd implementations in Debian well, > could you please comment on, reassign and/or close #78782? ;-) > We nowadays have the virtual packages system-log-daemon and linux-kernel-log-daemon. The available syslog solut

Re: package deviates from standard mail-transport-agent dependency.

2008-08-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Steve Langasek schrieb: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 09:29:35AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=andreas%40fatal.se > >>> Your packag depends on postfix | mail-transport-agent. Exim (v4) is >>> generally >>> considered the default mta in Debian

Re: Bug#493697: ITP: mobile-manager -- mobile manager GPRS/3G daemon

2008-08-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Montag, 4. August 2008 13:49:09 schrieb Guus Sliepen: What is missing here is whether or not mobile-manager comes with a GUI component to interact with the daemon. ...and how it can maybe interact with network-manager. There is not so much special about a GPRS/whatev

Re: sysklogd/rsyslog switch

2008-07-17 Thread Michael Biebl
Jonas Meurer wrote: On 17/07/2008 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: Well, it doesn't affect upgrades. And for new installs, _all_ the packages are new, so this falls under the case of Debian picking one alt

Re: inotify and symlinks in /etc/udev/rules.d/

2008-06-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Rafael Laboissiere wrote: I was approached by the maintainer of libmtp in Ubuntu regarding a fix for LP#197968 [1]. The bug reporter cites the file /etc/udev/rules.d/README (which does not exist in Debian), that says: The udev daemon watches this directory with inotify so that changes to

Bug#484744: ITP: dbus-1-qt3 -- backport of Qt4 D-Bus bindings for Qt3

2008-06-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: dbus-1-qt3 Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Kevin Krammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://people.freedesktop.org/~krake/dbus-1-qt3/ * License : GPL-2+ | AF

Re: dbus and initscripts

2008-06-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, Currently dbus' initscript, when invoked with the "stop", "start", or "restart" arguments, will also restart services that depend on dbus. I think this is broken, but in an IRC discussion, Sjoerd Simons, one of the maintainers disagreed. My arguments: There are three

Re: cupsddk - stolen WNPP - policy violation

2008-04-20 Thread Michael Biebl
Patrick Ringl wrote: But - back to the actual topic: Is this common sense in debian? Not respecting responses to WNPP's and even ignoring volunteers work? I am gutted! It is common practice to retitle the RFP (request for packaging) to ITP (intend to package) and changing the owner of the

Re: Moving from console-tools to kbd [was: Bug#476097: kbd: Incorrect LSB init header]

2008-04-14 Thread Michael Biebl
: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 03:50:58PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: Btw, I asked the maintainer of console-tools, Alastair McKinstry, about the state of console-tools in Debian (lots of bug reports with patches, no upload since a long time) and I'll be quoting the relevant parts here: Ala

Re: ITP: initng -- full replacement of the old sysvinit init system

2008-04-14 Thread Michael Biebl
David Paleino wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:14:57 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: David Paleino wrote: Firstly, it's not obsolete, since we only have sysvinit available (if we had upstart, or something similar to initng, I could've agreed here -- and upstart in Debian is way more ex

Re: ITP: initng -- full replacement of the old sysvinit init system

2008-04-14 Thread Michael Biebl
David Paleino wrote: Firstly, it's not obsolete, since we only have sysvinit available (if we had upstart, or something similar to initng, I could've agreed here -- and upstart in Debian is way more experimental than initng). I doubt you can back up this claim. My experiences with both initng

Re: Bug#475361: ITP: chkconfig -- system tool to enable or disable system services

2008-04-11 Thread Michael Biebl
Osamu Aoki wrote: >> >>> 5. chkconfig works well with the new insserv. >> Could you elaborate on that? What's the problem with sysv-rc-conf and >> insserv? > > Really, I do not use neither but when I was updating Debian Reference > for newbie, I thought such tool should help. There were more oro

Re: Bug#475361: ITP: chkconfig -- system tool to enable or disable system services

2008-04-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 10. April 2008 schrieb Michael Biebl: >> What's the advantage over exisiting tools like sysv-rc-conf? > > 1. chkconfig works solely on the command line. sysv-rc-conf has both a command line interface and a ncurses based interface. I do

Re: Bug#475361: ITP: chkconfig -- system tool to enable or disable system services

2008-04-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: chkconfig > Version : 10.3-90 > Upstream Author : Michael Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * License : GPL > Programming Lang: Perl > Descriptio

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Biebl
Josselin Mouette wrote: > On mar, 2008-04-01 at 23:27 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 11:22:58PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: >>> Actually, for icons, I’d say that a package shipping a theme should >>> install a trigger for /usr/share/icons/$theme. >> Wouldn't that be code du

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Biebl
Joey Hess wrote: > Josselin Mouette wrote: >> TTBOMK, triggers don’t tell you what has changed in a subdirectory. > > Actually they do. > I guess Joss is right here. triggers tell you *if* something has changed (in a subdirectory), but not *what*. Remember, that we have to call gtk-update-icon-

Re: changing the default syslog daemon for lenny?

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Biebl
Holger Levsen schrieb: > > Did you file those bugs? Is there a usertag for them? > I tried to collect the information at http://wiki.debian.org/Rsyslog and started filing the important bugs [1]. The real showstopper bug, which made rsyslog uninstallable, in the psad package, has been fixed alrea

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-04-01 Thread Michael Biebl
Josselin Mouette schrieb: > On lun, 2008-03-31 at 02:09 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> update-icon-caches/update-desktop-database would have to be made >> triggers-aware and install a triggers control file >> (e.g. interest /usr/share/icons or interest /usr/share/applicatio

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Joey Hess wrote: > Suggested off-list: update-grub > > I agree that this would be nice. Particularly if many old kernel > packages are removed, the multiple update-grub calls become annying. > Add update-initramfs to that list. It can take quite some time to regenerate the initramfs. Packages th

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Sune Vuorela wrote: >> Michael Biebl wrote: >>>> - update-icon-caches >>>> - update-desktop-database >>>>These are not very slow, nor used by a great many packages, >>>>but triggerizing them would allow getting rid of dh_icons and=20 &

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Michael Biebl] >> - insserv/update-rc.d >> Looks like a possible candidate too (without knowing much about >> triggers). I have to add, that I don't know much about insserv either ;-) > > I doubt it, as boot script updates need to be

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Joey Hess wrote: > dpkg in experimental supports triggers now, and in many cases trigger > support can be added to packages without creating a hard dependency on > a new version of dpkg. > > Things I want to see use triggers, in approximate priority order: [..] > - update-icon-caches > - update-

Re: I am confused about configuration files

2008-03-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > > Is the only way to make sure that conffiles do not clutter filesystem to > remove them in maintainer's script on upgrade from previous version? That's correct. The only way currently to remove obsolete conffiles is to do it manually in the maintainer scripts [1] I

Re: Bug#470621: ITP: nxcl -- NX X compression client library

2008-03-13 Thread Michael Biebl
Matthew Johnson wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Matthew Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > > Source package: nxcl >Binary package(s): libnxcl1 libnxcl-dev libnxcl-bin > Version: 0.9-1 > Licence: GPL >

Re: RFH: wireshark, libgphoto2, exif, etc.

2008-03-07 Thread Michael Biebl
Frederic Peters wrote: > I should have done this earlier). I am all for alioth but no news yet > about my request for a pkg-wireshark project. I'm not sure if you need a separate wiki, mailing-list etc for a package like wireshark. So maybe collab-maint is sufficient for your needs. Cheers, Mic

Re: Bug#468820: ITP: soothsayer -- intelligent predictive text entry platform (tools and demos)

2008-03-01 Thread Michael Biebl
Matteo Vescovi wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Matteo Vescovi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Package name: soothsayer Hi Matteo, please see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/01/msg00368.html In short: You only file *one* ITP for the source package, not ITPs for ev

Re: Bug#467097: ITP: eficas -- ASter Command FIle Editor

2008-02-23 Thread Michael Biebl
Guus Sliepen wrote: > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 01:00:43PM +0100, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > >> I updated it: >> http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-scicomp/eficas/trunk/debian/control?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 >> Is it ok for do you want me to develop this more ? > >> Description: ASter Command FIle Editor > [.

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> OTOH, maybe you're just too incompetent for that. > > Insulting contributors really isn't helpful Josselin. > But the same it true the other way around. Imho it's also not ok to insult DDs publ

Re: changing the default syslog daemon for lenny?

2008-02-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Michael Biebl wrote: > Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> [Michael Biebl] >>> That's mostly because of lots of documentation in >>> /usr/share/doc/rsyslog. If you think that's an issue, I could split >>> out the doc into a

Re: changing the default syslog daemon for lenny?

2008-01-31 Thread Michael Biebl
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [Michael Biebl] That's mostly because of lots of documentation in /usr/share/doc/rsyslog. If you think that's an issue, I could split out the doc into a separate package. This is probably a good idea, for those that need a

Re: changing the default syslog daemon for lenny?

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Michael Biebl wrote: The list of syslogd sorted by Installed-Size: Package: socklog-run Installed-Size: 148 This one requires runit (430k) and socklog (291k) for operation Package: sysklogd Installed-Size: 212 This one requires klogd (139k) for kernel logging. Package: inetutils

Re: changing the default syslog daemon for lenny?

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Guillem Jover wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 00:11:44 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: For 12.) and 28.), I'd file a wishlist bug providing a config file snippet for /etc/rsyslog.d/ Can we please use /etc/syslog.d/ instead? this way we don't get locked in any specific implement

Re: changing the default syslog daemon for lenny?

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Biebl
Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Tuesday 29 January 2008 00:55, Russ Allbery wrote: Of course, since other syslog implementations are potentially better in larger ways, there may still be good reason to switch the default syslog to another implementation.

Re: changing the default syslog daemon for lenny?

2008-01-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Patrick Winnertz wrote: Am Montag, 28. Januar 2008 01:55:23 schrieb Michael Biebl: rsyslog is also a drop in replacement, even more so, as it can understand the syntax of sysklogd. The default rsyslog config file /etc/rsyslog.conf is basically a copy of /etc/syslog.conf. So if you have a custom

Re: changing the default syslog daemon for lenny?

2008-01-27 Thread Michael Biebl
Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 11278 March 1977, Holger Levsen wrote: So we decided to switch to syslog-ng for now. On the #debian-release channel some people claimed, that syslog-ng is not a drop-in replacement, while other said so. I don't know :) Please explain here. Other options would be rsys

Re: rebuilding the archive in a dirty chroot: results

2008-01-26 Thread Michael Biebl
Thanks for your efforts. - hal has been fixed in the pkg-utopia svn. - libnl-doc (different size) seems to be an issue of doxygen embedding the date of generation in the resulting html pages. I don't consider that a problem. - The fix for dbus is in the works. It's apparently the usage of the w

Re: dependencies for autoconf

2008-01-23 Thread Michael Biebl
Ben Pfaff wrote: In bug #262021, Norman Ramsey reported that the "autoreconf" script provided by the autoconf package runs automake. Since at the time autoconf merely recommended automaken, instead of depending on it, this could fail. To fix the bug, I changed the recommendation to a dependency

Re: Incorrect use of dpkg conffile suffixes and lintian checks

2008-01-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Michael Biebl] Why do you think, debhelper is not the correct place to handle this? Imho it would be fairly easy to write a debhelper command for this. Another way would be, to make dpkg smarter about such cases. As you want to write a special utility for this, how

Re: Incorrect use of dpkg conffile suffixes and lintian checks

2008-01-20 Thread Michael Biebl
Joey Hess wrote: Why are we copying shell functions off of wikis and embedding them into our maintainer scripts instead of adding the code to Debian once in a utility? I'm all for this! The sad truth is, that currently a lot of maintainers simply forget to handle conffiles removals/moves. So h

Re: Incorrect use of dpkg conffile suffixes and lintian checks

2008-01-20 Thread Michael Biebl
Roger Leigh wrote: Hi folks, I noticed earlier today that many packages are creating copies of conffiles in their maintainer scripts with the extension ".dpkg-bak", which is not an extension used or removed by dpkg: Say you name the file /etc/foo.dpkg-old instead of /etc/foo.dpkg-bak. dpkg won

Re: Correct spelling/capitalisation of project names

2008-01-10 Thread Michael Biebl
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 10:51:42AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Could you please add GLib, GObject, GTK+, GConf, GnomeVFS and GStreamer to the list? Just to help Russ out here, but he already described how capitalisation checking currently work in lintian. To re-ite

Re: Bug#459627: ITP: libdmtx-dev -- header files for libdmtx

2008-01-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Todd A. Jacobs wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Todd A. Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libdmtx-dev Version : 0.4.0-codegnome.3 Upstream Author : Mike Laughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.libdmtx.org/ * License : LGPL P

Re: Bug#459403: libuuid1: missing depends on non-essential package passwd

2008-01-07 Thread Michael Biebl
Bastian Blank wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 03:23:23AM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: So, I am doing so now. Any objections if I add a dependency on passwd for libuuid1? The aternative would be to roll-my-own useradd/adduser functionality, but that would be a real PITA.

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Raphael Geissert schrieb: > > Just to clarify to everybody, the list was screwed up by dd-list (my bad, > didn't see the '-b' option part). Thanks to Adeodato for pointing that out. > So, here's the list of binary packages (attachment is dd-list -u again). >

Re: poppler transition

2007-12-20 Thread Michael Biebl
Norbert Preining schrieb: > Dear all! > > The other packages which are ready for transition and only waiting are: > evince, gambas, kdegraphics, pdfcube, tracker, texlive-bin > > So let's hope that NO new uploads are happening for the following 8 > days. At least I will refrain from uploading any

Re: [RFH] Bug#454179: kdesvn killed by SIGBUS

2007-12-18 Thread Michael Biebl
Vincent Fourmond schrieb: > Michael Biebl wrote: >> I need help with an RC against kdesvn. >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=454179 >> In short: >> If the user runs the (amd64) version from the archive (0.14.1-1), it >> crashes with a SIB

[RFH] Bug#454179: kdesvn killed by SIGBUS

2007-12-17 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi, I need help with an RC against kdesvn. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=454179 In short: If the user runs the (amd64) version from the archive (0.14.1-1), it crashes with a SIBGUS error. I asked the user to recompile kdesvn with the nostrip option, to get a backtrace, but this

Re: Syslog file paths in 'metalog'? (#423299)

2007-12-06 Thread Michael Biebl
Christoph Haas schrieb: > Fellow Debianistas... > > At work we are using syslog-ng a lot and it's very useful for a central > logging server. However I don't like the syntax because it's verbose and > typo-prone. You might take a look at rsyslog then. It basically has the same syntax as stock sys

Re: uploading as Debian Maintainer - rejected

2007-12-04 Thread Michael Biebl
Bernd Zeimetz schrieb: > > Since when is Ondrej == Kartik? > lol, I somehow managed to mix up Kartik and Certik ;-) Sorry Ondrej for this faux pax. Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc

Re: uploading as Debian Maintainer - rejected

2007-12-04 Thread Michael Biebl
Ondrej Certik schrieb: > Hi, > > I recently become a Debian Maintainer, so I wanted to upload a new > version of python-numpy package, relevant fields from debian/control: > Have you read the changelog of debian-maintainers? debian-maintainers (1.4) unstable; urgency=low * Removed keyring ad

Re: xinetd is a viable inet-superserver

2007-11-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Steve Greenland schrieb: > On 28-Nov-07, 05:25 (CST), Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Pierre Habouzit schrieb: >>> wrong. providing inet-superserver means that you are able to perform >>> what any implementation of inetd(8) does, namely, readin

Re: xinetd is a viable inet-superserver

2007-11-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Pierre Habouzit schrieb: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:15:05AM +, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > >>> Since xinetd conflicts with inet-superserver it's the sole one that >>> can honour /etc/inetd.conf. >> Well, not completely true. There might be more than one understanding. >> Mine is that providing a

Re: Packages with empty directories

2007-11-20 Thread Michael Biebl
Daniel Schepler schrieb: > On Tuesday 20 November 2007 10:26:39 pm Cyril Brulebois wrote: >> On 21/11/2007, Daniel Schepler wrote: >>> Obviously, a lot of these will be false positives, so I definitely >>> won't file mass bugs based on this list without checking the full >>> details first. >> Maybe

Re: Packages with empty directories

2007-11-20 Thread Michael Biebl
Daniel Schepler schrieb: > I recently noticed that many of the binary packages in Debian have > unnecessary > empty directories in them, so I wrote a script to find all packages with any > empty directories. The results are too numerous to post on the list. The > list by maintainer/uploader i

Re: Gdk support for SVG

2007-11-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Michal Čihař schrieb: > Hi all > > how can I find what must be installed (or what I have to put in > dependencies) to have Gdk with SVG support? Gmobilemedia works for me, > but it fails [1] on some host without having full GNOME installed. I do > not see anything in libgtk2.0-0 suggests/recommend

Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Michael Biebl
Bart Samwel schrieb: > Joey Hess wrote: >> Raphael Hertzog wrote: >>> The problem is not so much on manually installed package but on initial >>> installation. I'm not sure what would get installed via the laptop >>> task if >>> we made that a Recommends... >> >> d-i can't afford to install recomme

Re: Friendly reminder: the Vcs-Browser field is now official

2007-10-29 Thread Michael Biebl
Romain Francoise schrieb: > Hi all, > > The packages listed below use the 'XS-Vcs-Browse' field, which has > been obsoleted by the new, official 'Vcs-Browser' field. Please > consider upgrading your control files to use that. Also note that > the proper capitalization is 'Vcs-Browser', not 'VCS-

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Nico Golde schrieb: > Hi Joerg, > * Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-24 17:44]: >> On 11182 March 1977, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> Thoughts? Flames? Let me have it! :) >>> Let's just switch to postfix, exim is way too much complex for most >>> applications. >> No. if we ever switch away

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