Re: Non-identical files with identical md5sums on Debian systems?

2013-08-05 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: Fabian Greffrath fab...@greffrath.com writes: I do occasionally check for identical files on different systems by comparing their md5sums. So, just out of interest, could someone tell me (how to find out) how many non-identical files with

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Russell Coker russ...@coker.com.au writes: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Michael Welle mwe012...@gmx.net wrote: I agree only partly with that. Losing a bug report or two is one thing. Imagine a potential or actual customer sending an email to a company and getting a response like: 'Well, we

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: On Apr 02, Michael Welle mwe012...@gmx.net wrote: In life I tend to look for role models above me, not below me. Why imitate people or companies that do a bad job? We can do better. And of course, to come back to my initial email, I doubt

bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. The result: sub...@bugs.debian.org: 140.211.15.34 failed after I sent the message. Remote host said: 550-Blacklisted URL in message. (foo.org) in [black]. See 550

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, martin f krafft madd...@debian.org writes: also sprach Michael Welle mwe012...@gmx.net [2012.04.01. +0200]: I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. See RFC2606. so you suggest a Debian user should

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name writes: On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:11:11AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. You have example.com just for that. sub

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: Michael Welle mwe012...@gmx.net writes: I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. The result: sub...@bugs.debian.org: 140.211.15.34 failed after I sent the message

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name writes: On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:20:04AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: I just tried to report a bug. To show how one can reproduce the bug I needed an url, I chose www.foo.org for that purpose. See RFC2606. so you suggest a Debian user should

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Michael Banck mba...@debian.org writes: On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:31:49AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: Anyways, what if I want to report a bug that happens if I use foo.org? We can discuss this again once this is actually the case. chances that users without technical background come

Re: bug reports with urls in them

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Fernando Lemos fernando...@gmail.com writes: Hi, On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Michael Welle mwe012...@gmx.net wrote: Hello, Michael Banck mba...@debian.org writes: On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:31:49AM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: Anyways, what if I want to report a bug

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-18 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi writes: On su, 2010-08-15 at 14:19 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: I would guess they still fill up the .xsession-errors file, though? At least for me, that file is mostly useless due to: « ...Too much output, ignoring rest... » as the last line. It's

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-16 Thread Michael Welle
Good morning (at least in my time zone ;)), Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org writes: Quoting Michael Welle (mwe012...@gmx.net): Hello, what is the reason that many applications clutter the terminal with output that is obvisously debug output? Lets take digikam as an example: (I

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-15 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes: On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:59:50 +0200 Michael Welle mwe012...@gmx.net wrote: what is the reason that many applications clutter the terminal with output that is obvisously debug output? It's debug output, it is useful when debugging and you

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-15 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: [...] debug output should certainly not be output by default in released versions without a command-line or configuration option turning it on. l for one don't want ls doing something like this: ls: starting up ls: checking for bad filesystems ls:

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-15 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.net writes: On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:09:42AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: It's debug output, it is useful when debugging and you need the output, e.g. when fixing bugs and the user can just be asked to run the command from the terminal and

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-15 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes: On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 08:51:21 +0200 Michael Welle mwe012...@gmx.net wrote: It's debug output, it is useful when debugging and you need the output, e.g. when fixing bugs and the user can just be asked to run the command from the terminal

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-15 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes: On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 08:57:56 +0200 Michael Welle mwe012...@gmx.net wrote: [...] My feeling is that many developers ^^ don't care because most users might not be aware of what is happening. That is a very cavalier attitude to how

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-15 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Josef Spillner 2...@kuarepoti-dju.net writes: Am Samstag, 14. August 2010, 19:59:50 schrieb Michael Welle: Hello, what is the reason that many applications clutter the terminal with output that is obvisously debug output? Lets take digikam as an example: In the specific case

Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-14 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, what is the reason that many applications clutter the terminal with output that is obvisously debug output? Lets take digikam as an example: kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libkdeinit/libkdeinit4_klauncher.so Connecting to deprecated signal

Sourcing init-functions

2010-01-16 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, several init scripts use such a fragment for sourcing init-functions: if ! [ -x /lib/lsb/init-functions ]; then . /lib/lsb/init-functions else echo E: /lib/lsb/init-functions not found, lsb-base (= 3.0-6) needed exit 1 fi What is the reason to bail out if the execute bit is set? Or

Re: Sourcing init-functions

2010-01-16 Thread Michael Welle
Hi Steve, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: Hi Michael, On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:57:48AM +0100, Michael Welle wrote: several init scripts use such a fragment for sourcing init-functions: if ! [ -x /lib/lsb/init-functions ]; then . /lib/lsb/init-functions else echo E: /lib

PGP-Keys for package work

2008-12-25 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, do you maintain a separate key for signing packages etc. or do you use a subkey and a separate user id on your usual key? I tend to use the subkey approach. Any opinions on this? Best practices? Michael -- biff4emacsen - A biff-like tool for (X)Emacs

Re: Packaging shell functions

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, Eugene V. Lyubimkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Welle wrote: Hi, I'm packaging a little tool called vared. Vared relies on some shell functions and/or aliases that must have been sourced into the environment before usage. What may be the best pratice to package such shell

Re: Packaging shell functions

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm packaging a little tool called vared. Vared relies on some shell functions and/or aliases that must have been sourced into the environment before usage. What may be the best pratice to package such shell functions? ... How about a little

Re: Packaging shell functions

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 03:04:28PM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: vared [1] lets you edit environment variables an a fancy way and than it sets their new value in your current shell session. The shell functions/aliases are a crude way to work around

Packaging shell functions

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, I'm packaging a little tool called vared. Vared relies on some shell functions and/or aliases that must have been sourced into the environment before usage. What may be the best pratice to package such shell functions? First approch is to put the shell code somewhere under /usr/share/vared

Re: Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

2007-06-04 Thread Michael Welle
Hi Miriam, Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2007/6/4, Alexander Reelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 12:49 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: I'm not really picky about names and would be quite relaxed if the official homepage http://www.sturmbahnfahrer.com/ would not

Re: Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

2007-06-04 Thread Michael Welle
Hi Frank, Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Welle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The german term 'Sturmbahn' as in 'Sturmbahnfahrer' describes a trail were you have to vanquish some barriers to train your physical fitness. This is often used in military lingo. But I also know it from

Re: Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

2007-06-04 Thread Michael Welle
Hi Miriam, Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then, would simply sturmbahn be a suitable name for the package? is this an yes/no question? I for myself with decent knowledge of german language and history have no big issues with the name. But I understand that some people have bad feelings

Re: Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

2007-06-04 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then, would simply sturmbahn be a suitable name for the package? sorry, I forgot to mention that the name seems to sound much better without the term 'fahrer'. Michael -- biff4emacsen - A biff-like tool for (X)Emacs

Re: Orphaning my packages

2006-09-20 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, Jan C. Nordholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, * rxvt as a user of rxvt I like to see it remain in Debian. I'm not a Debian developer Same for me. I'd also take rxvt and am no DD either. Michael, maybe you'd like to agree on some kind of team maintenance? My workload is quite low at

Re: Orphaning my packages

2006-09-19 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Moreno Garza wrote: [...] The ones which haven't been picked up either with ITAs or in this thread, and which aren't lib*-perl or lib*-ruby, are: * dlume * fpm * gxmms * kipina * revolution * rxvt as a user of rxvt I like to see it