On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 02:15:16PM -0600, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
(...)
> And yes, it does belong there. It could easily add the something like:
>
>The single monolithic file is the normal upstream configuration,
>while the other choice is a Debian innovation that works
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 08:03:02PM +0900, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> That would be cool. At least one of the povray maintainers has a
> >> giant stick up his butt about Debian, something along the lines of
> >> "The version of povray in D
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 03:34:22PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Previously Mike Hommey wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 03:11:28AM +0100, Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL
> > PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The default interface name of the ip
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 08:39:10PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Its just not out of NEW atm.
And now we're back to the original subject ;)
Mike
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Hi fellow developpers,
I just want you to make you aware that I'm planning to upload new
upstream versions of libxml2 and libxslt into sid soon.
Since the number of reverse dependencies on them are quite significant,
and since shlibs are going to be bumped, I'm posting this warning on
-release and
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 09:29:57AM +0100, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> also sprach Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.09.0359 +0100]:
> > Sounds good.
> > Could it be used for dh_striping the content of a package ?
>
> It is an unpacked DEB
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 12:56:23AM -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > See RFC 2119. I think usages of may, should, must and stuff should
> > follow these explanations.
>
> There's an RFC for words???
Yes, there is one, to make sure everybody use the words for the same
thing, especi
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:16:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Note that's a "may" and a "should", not a "must". IIRC they only trigger
> > lintian warnings, not errors.
>
> If I tell my son, "You may not go play in the rain.", he knows
> that he can't go play in the rain.
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:56:23PM +0100, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> retitle 284642 ITP: debedit -- script to edit DEB files with hooks or
> interactively
> thanks
>
> Together with Goswin, I have now given dpkg-reversion the ability to
> invoke a hook on the unpacked binary pa
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 11:49:49PM +0100, Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The authoritative document is the menu _manual_:
> (/usr/share/doc/menu/menu.txt.gz), section 3.7
>
> An extract from that section:
>
> Debian package maintainers should ensure that any icons they include
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:10:21PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 12:04:56PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 06:53:42PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL
> > PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > But yes, n
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 06:53:42PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> But yes, non-ASCII Latin-1 chars should not be given special status over
> the national chars found in other languages spoken by project members.
> Debian should be using either ASCII, or Unicode; standardizing o
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 12:42:05AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:13:54PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:26:17AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL
> > PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Umm, only
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:24:29PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:34:54PM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:06:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > >Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > >>It stri
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 11:42:15PM -0800, Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>
> >But it seems that now you're telling me that you know better than the
> >mirror operators which packages will violate their internal policies.
> >
> >
> Certainly a good guess is b
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 08:12:50AM +0100, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi fellow developers,
>
> I failed in ending this thread when I posted
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/12/msg00016.html
>
> instead I caused two trolls making even more noise.
>
> I hope al
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 01:11:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Seems more like there is a more of a minority of uber right
> wingers trying to batten down art that offends their sensibility. The
> actual project members seem to be more or less taking the sensible
>
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 12:26:17AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Umm, only if it is indeed deemed to be illegal. So far, there
> has been just FUD about this issue. I am not sure that artistic work
> qualifies as porn, which seems to be the case here.
Artistic or no
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:13:29PM -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No. "We" are not calling on the Morality Police to take the
> particular web site down. "We" are not saying, "you can not
> install that app on your computer".
>
> There's a *fundamental* difference between "don't
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:38:51PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anibal Monsalve Salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > For one, the Australian laws prohibite any web site in Australia to host
> > pornographic material.
> >
> > See http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 08:50:25PM -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Be real, man. Steve Greenland said it perfectly: "Choosing not
> to distribute a given package is NOT censorship. ... This is not
> a subtle difference."
Allowing the package with the provision it doesn't contai
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 09:54:36AM +1100, Paul Hampson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Isn't there a proposal around for
> Description#en:
> Description#ja:
And you'd advocate to write the English text in latin1 and the japanese
text in euc-jp ?
Let's make it clear: 1 text file, 1 encoding.
Mike
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: xul-runner
Version : 0.0.0
Upstream Author : The Mozilla Project
* URL : http://www.mozilla.org/
* License : GPL/LGPL/MPL
Description : XUL/XPCOM application runner
The goal of the XUL Runner application i
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 07:29:53PM -0500, William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:28:11PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Because he's an idiot. Can we move on to something on-topic?
>
> Fuck you.
You're being offensive, you should not be included in Debian.
Mi
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 01:26:50AM +0100, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Am 2004-12-02 18:11:03, schrieb Manoj Srivastava:
>
> > The Bible is illegal to distribute in the most populous nation
> > in the world.
>
> Not only this, because the "Old Testament" glorifies the genoc
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:28:20PM -0200, Fernanda Giroleti Weiden <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Em Qui, 2004-12-02 às 07:46, Tollef Fog Heen escreveu:
> > * Helen Faulkner
> >
> > | Pornography is widely regarded as being demeaning and insulting to women.
> >
> > - A lot of people
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:03:18AM -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Indeed, and this is also why Manoj's vi/KDE argument is not relevant.
>
> vi serves a useful purpose for an operating system.
>
> Porn/nudes/whatever don't.
What about the bible, then ?
Mike
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:44:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "lewd exhibition of the genitals"
genitals: A sex organ, or primary sexual characteristic, narrowly
defined, is any of those parts of the body (which are not always bodily
organs according to the strict definiti
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:06:13PM +, Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I think that is the main issue here. I would like to believe that Debian
> is capable of showing more respect for other people than including hotbabe
> in the distribution would indicate.
Yeah, i would like D
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 06:18:35PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:01:06AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> Then, Disk 1 (which is very full-featured, after all) can be
> >> passed out where ever an
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 07:53:41AM +0100, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> As already written in -women, this is the point which saddens me the
> most in this thread. I'm really disappointed by seeing most
> contributors just not realize why this package, as proposed, is likely
> to
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:34:06PM -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[... nonsense ...]
Where did you see someone asking for inclusion of child porn ?
Mike
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 05:13:28PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> Out of curiosity, what is its advantage over libxml2-utils and xsltproc ?
Okay, I found out by myself, it is built *on top* of libxml2 and
xsltproc, but the package not depending on it i was wondering.
And the fact is it is compi
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 02:55:42AM -0500, Alex Mauer wrote:
> xmlstarlet (0.9.3-2) unstable; urgency=low
>Description: Command Line XML Toolkit
>(...)
> The toolkit's feature set includes options to:
> Check or validate XML files (simple well-formedness check, DTD, XSD, RelaxNG)
> Calculate values
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 10:52:35AM +0100, Nikolai Prokoschenko wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 03:50:51PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
>
> > Anyways, I'd suggest to make a multi-binary package so that it produces
> > several mozilla-firefox-locale-* packages.
>
> A stu
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 08:55:12PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 02:43:44AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> > On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 00:22 +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
> > > 1) Current gnome-panel do *not* support XDG menus (only KDE does).
> > > (Debian menu has XDG menu
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 04:56:27AM +0100, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> El Jueves 11 Noviembre 2004 07:50, Mike Hommey escribió:
> > You're not lucky, with the 1.0 package that just got uploaded to
> > unstable, your package is useless, 'cause support for
> > /v
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 10:27:08AM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Thursday 11 November 2004 04:11 am, Juergen Salk wrote:
> > It seems in Sarge at least some of the crypto crippled versions
> > have just vanished into thin air.
>
> ...which is going to silently leave users running old version
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 03:50:51PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> As for how to make the thing work with new firefox package, I'm working
> on an HTML version of what I sent to extensions packages maintainers 2
> days ago about the new scheme. I'll send the URL here when it'
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 06:47:15AM +0100, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> Hi! Sometimes a package with all the firefox translations has been proposed.
> With the arrival of Firefox 1.0, localization has been normalized and now
> this
> package seems quite suitable.
>
> As a proof of concept, I
reassign 230874 wnpp
retitle 230874 ITP: mozilla-venkman - Javascript debugger for Mozilla and
Firefox
thanks
Venkman being not really sync'ed in firefox or mozilla, I'm proposing to
package the venkman package which will conflict with mozilla-js-debugger
(venkman provided by the mozilla source p
On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 03:40:48PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Developers, do not allow
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl%3Asecring.gpg
>
> to happen to you.
And it's better to repeat it three times:
http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/wanna-build/secring.gpg
http://ftp.beln
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 07:44:19PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> Even if the file is updated only by the postinst, it is useful to know
> that you can recover a broken system from scratch by having:
>
> * A backup copy of /etc, /var, /home, /usr/local, etc. (but not /usr).
> * The list of installe
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 12:34:54PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> They are; I received one just last week.
>
> If they're not reaching you, I suggest you check your d-d-a subscription
> and/or your spam filter.
How did you receive a mail to d-d-a which is not even in the archive ?
http://lists.d
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 07:53:27AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Err... experimental ABI changes are for experimental. Confirmed ABI
> and API changes are for unstable (or whatever you want to call the
> development branch). We must not hide those changes from the future
> stable distribution s
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 04:20:16AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Argh. Sorry, I shouldn't be allowed to post while drunk. That was meant
> to go to -legal, not -devel.
And i shouldn't have replied without looking at the To: field.
Mike
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 03:41:13AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Is this the case even if the firmware is in a flash chip attached to the
> device? If the total amount of non-free software on a user's system is
> the same regardless, why are we concerned about how it's packaged?
'kay, this has a
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 12:11:51AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
[...]
> If unstable is not a distribution, what the hell is the point
> of having all the paraphernalia of unstable around? The whole point
> of uploading to unstable is to have people test packages in
> unstable.
If peop
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 12:14:45PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:23:48 +0900, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > And why not, instead of freezing unstable, make it build against
> > testing, when er try to freeze testing ?
>
>
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 10:28:29PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> This is a fallacy. In the past, when we did freeze unstable,
> it never forced me to do anything but twidle my thumbs for months
> until things got moving again. The reason that freezing unstable did
> not make me fix any
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 09:52:10AM +0200, A Mennucc wrote:
> so, on a typical install of Debian, it is quite possible that discover
> and hotplug are installed at the same time.
It's more than quite possible, it's what you get after installing sarge,
except if it changed since the snapshot I trie
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 03:17:59PM -0400, sean finney wrote:
> likewise for me. i've found that after a fresh debian install, one of
> the first things i have to do is add a bunch of modules to hotplug's
> blacklist.
the first thing I had to do after a fresh install was to remove discover1
to avo
Hi Debian Developpers,
I'll be in Nagoya on November 1, 2 or 3 (for now, I couldn't say on which
day(s) I'll be there, that will partly depend on the answers I'll get to this
email ;) ). If there are any people interested in keysigning during that
week-end, drop me a message.
By the way, if the
On Monday 29 September 2003 19:32, Graham Wilson wrote:
> Changes:
> mini-dinstall (0.6.8) unstable; urgency=low
[...]
>* Change DTD in manpage and manual to locally installed version.
Why do you need that ? (X|SG)ML catalogs are your friends...
Mike
On Tuesday 23 September 2003 01:45, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 12:28:44AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > Maybe I'm wrong, but I think an MTA rejecting a mail because of oversized
> > body doesn't have to get the whole body before rejecting the ma
On Monday 22 September 2003 16:53, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Hi, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > helps catching 95%... But the bandwidth is still used... I'm still
> > looking for a pure MTA solution...
>
> A pure MTA solution would still need to scan the body and thus would
On Sunday 21 September 2003 23:10, Remi Vanicat wrote:
> Why use epoch ? 1.4.0.20030921-1 should work (or am i missing something
> here ?)
>
> epoch should only be used when needed...
and it is... since current mozilla package version is 2:1.4-4
Mike
--
"I have sampled every language, french is
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 20:13, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
> There's more of it: http://www.linex.org/sources/linex/debian/linex/
> lists acroread_4.05-3, mplayer_0.90pre5-3
> flashplugin-nonfree_6.0.79-1, hsflinmodem-linex_0.5.2-1
... and j2re, yes, I saw that afterwards...
Some are quite badly packa
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 02:16, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> "The biggest deficiency in our free operating systems is not in the
>software--it is the lack of good free manuals that we can include in
>our systems. Documentation is an essential part of any software
>package; when an
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 00:34, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mar 19/08/2003 à 23:33, Mike Hommey a écrit :
> > Ok, let's google a bit, and shazaam !
> > http://www.linex.org/sources/linex/debian/linex/nvidia-glx_1.0.4349-1_i38
> >6.deb Oh ! non-free software !
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 02:38, Erich Schubert wrote:
> Hi,
> i have built packages for the bootsplash tools (no package for the patch
> itself though. just download and apply the diff).
> They are available on http://people.debian.org/~erich/boot/bootsplash/
> and work fine on my notebook as we
On Tuesday 05 August 2003 10:33, Ian Hickson wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I was amused to see my blog post [1] made it to this list. I figured
> I'd clarify a few points which were omitted from that blog in the
> interests of brevity and humour.
>
> Mike Hommey
On Monday 04 August 2003 23:12, Nikolai Prokoschenko wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just found this, maybe aîuseful read
>
> http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1060025253&count=1
Unfortunately, his main problem is "Having not used Debian for about 8 years".
The strange thing is that he has been able to apt-get ins
On Saturday 02 August 2003 09:01, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
> Secondly, we need to signal to upstream to fix up _their_ act, too. If
> we can't ship, for example the latest gcc because glibc isn't ISO C
> compliant and working with gcc-3.3 (see other thread), then others need
> to act: glibc mainta
On Sunday 27 July 2003 13:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This Apache module does Dynamic Virtual Servers based on directory names.
> It supports user home directories and individual cgi-bin directories. When
> creating a directory (and thereby a virtual server) there is no need for
> restarting apa
On Sunday 22 June 2003 19:21, Allan Jacobsen wrote:
> I have been looking for working j2re1.4 packages for some times, but
> unfortunatly this does not work for me:
>
> isis:~/testdir/j2sdk# dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
> dpkg-buildpackage: source package is j2se1.4-i586
> dpkg-buildpackage: source
On Thursday 19 June 2003 18:36, Thomas E. Vaughan wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed this?
This is due to the fact that Mozilla is now compiled with gcc 3.3, and that
j2re1.3 is still compiled with gcc 2.95 ; both are incompatible.
You can get a working j2re1.4 (blackdown doesn't provide 1.3 compi
On Saturday 24 May 2003 00:43, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> * The rest of the world is sick to death of US imperialism;
>
> * The US government ignores world opinion and does it's thing;
>
> * The rest of the world puts pressure on the US people to change things,
> since they've at least got half a chan
On Sunday 25 May 2003 07:27, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > Remember, the rest of the world does *not* owe you and yours a
> > living.
>
> Quite. But if they take delibrate action to hurt _any_
> country, or its economy, they shall have to live with the consequences.
And what is US trying to d
ont, you need to edit
${HOME}/.mozilla/profile_name/something.slt/chrome/userChrome.css
adding
* {
font-size: 10pt !important;
font-family: FreeSans;
}
to this file will make Mozilla use FreeSans 10pt font.
--
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"This will go a long way towa
oops, forgot to Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Forwarded Message --
Subject: ITP: xpi2deb -- Mozilla's xpi package converter
Date: Thursday 17 April 2003 11:47
From: Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
retitle 131404 ITP: xpi2deb -
t easily) losslessly parse their configuration files.
OTOH, xml config files (like fontconfig's config) could be losslessly parsed
through xslt processing...
--
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"This will go a long way towards the war on terror. Terrorists won't be able
to ins
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-10
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: splashutils
Version : no upstream versioning
Upstream Author : Stefan Reinauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.bootsplash.org/
* License : GPL
Description :
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-10
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: kernel-patch-bootsplash
Version : 3.0.7
Upstream Author : Stefan Reinauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.bootsplash.org/
* License : GPL
Description : Kerne
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